you people who think this situation required the use of lethal force are some pussy motherfuckers

As I said above, the problem is you don't know if anyone else is in danger. Do you think it is a good idea to leave a crazy guy who is so angry he will attack a police car wandering around a neighborhood? We also have no idea what the call was. We don't know that there isn't someone laying in yard or in the street somewhere that he has already beat half to death.

If he left and someone else got hurt the police department would be sued for an extraordinary amount.

So you would have stepped out of the car and took the bat away from him?

lol kid was an idiot, required use of physical and deadly force if not just to take the kid down but to also serve as a deterrent to others looking to do fucked up shit like that to the police

im the first one to say theyre idiots when theyre idiots but they have a job to do and if they aren't seen as the dont fuck with us guys out there then thing would be even worse than they are now

Problem is you ring the police for a real actual crime and they show up 4 hours later.

Go 5k's over the speed limit and look out officer dickbag will be so far up your crack it ain't funny.

Only 40 short years ago this type of behavior would warrant an immediate suicide by cop and most people realized that. Are you people really going to listen to the NAACP?

Police procedure normally and in training they tell you that your not supposed to stay in your car to get out at all costs or you could be killed. If the guy with the bat had a gun the officer would be dead. If you watch the video you'll see at the end he got out at the right time to get off a shot. My cousin is a cop and they tell you to not stay in your car. That's a whacked out video tho, that guy was stupid or high on drugs.

He was breaking windows. That is not a capital offense and no excuse for shooting a minor. The police protected himself obviously, but I call it bad judgement.

It's pretty much a given where I come from - you go at a cop swinging a bat, you gonna get shot. It's pretty easy to understand, really - you want to live - don't be swinging a bat at no cops.

Just so I make sure I understand you clearly. You think a guy smashing a window out of a cop car like that guy was is just a guy breaking windows? Also, we didn't see what happened when the guy comes around to the driver's side. So if that glass you hear breaking is the cops driver's side door window he should have calmly gotten out of the car and wrestled the bat away from this guy?

A lot of people say he should have tazed him. Great, but we don't even know if he had a tazer and if the guy is about to smash my head in with a bat I'm not going to risk my life on the idea that my tazer works because if it doesn't work properly, I might be dead.

You say he was protecting himself, but how would you have rather he handled it?

It is a tragedy that this kid died, but in the split second this guy had to decide what to do and it looked to me like this kid was in no mood to talk.

You lot cry baby cunts are fucking stupid it is too no surprise this industry is in the decline its in with fucktards like you lot at the helm.

Yep, they teach you to put the car in between you and them. I guess he could have sped up and ran the guy over, but then people would have been pissed about that.

This is one of those calls you show up at knowing that there is no good outcome and you try to choose the best of the shitty options you have available to you.

The cop did the right thing. That kid was a fucking idiot and deserved to die.

You don't think that the police were far more brutal 40 or 50 years ago than they are today? Back then everyone on the planet didn't have a phone with video recorder and there wasn't an internet where overnight your actions could become worldwide news. I hear stories from some cops I know that have been on the job a long time that even 20's years ago it was common place to beat the shit out of the people they arrested then just tell anyone who asked that they resisted.

These days the level of sensitivity training cops gets is through the roof compared to then. Most departments now have all kinds of classes on how to "compassionately" deal with the public in just about any situation.

I think 40 years ago the cop may be just plowed the kid over with his car then slapped the shit out of anyone who might have questioned his actions.

If you're attacking police car while tripping your ass out high on drugs you should be aware of cops posessing guns and ready to use it. So don't be surprised when your brain gets splashed all over the police car hood.

The cop was in very tough situation when he's to make right choice in seconds. Not many of you can drag a gun and shoot a man, even when protecting themselves. I'm not sure if the cop had to shoot to kill (or whether he really did it), but the bat-guy is definitely worth Darwin award.

It was reported he smashed windows.

Point is, he didn't shoot to protect others, but to protect himself. He could drive forward and no one had to be killed.

I don't think the officer should be charged unless he killed intentionally. He was first at the scene and obviously not trained good enough to handle that situation. He needs better training or they have to let him go. Kill should always be the last resort for skilled officers.

Well, I personally won't make that kind of call without knowing exactly what went down. We see the video, but once the guy moves towards the driver's side of the car you hear breaking class, but you don't know what happened. We don't know what the guy did. Was he just standing there? Did he charge the cop? Was he breaking the windows out of the driver's side door of the cop car trying to get at the cop? We don't know. I'll restrain from assuming he was under-trained and could have had better options without knowing that stuff.

Here is the problem with most police. Almost all police are vastly under-trained. They go through the academy and then are lucky if they get once a year follow-ups. The cops in the town I live in get once a year hand to hand tactics, 2-3 times per year where they qualify with their guns and 1-2 times per year doing what the call con-sim. This is where they have real guns that shoot paint bullets and you do live shoot/non-shoot scenarios with them. Most of the scenarios they do are taken from real life instances where officers have died. The idea is that they arrive on scene with only a little information from dispatch and then end up in a situation where they have to decide if and when to shoot. They follow the scenario out until the bad guys are dead or the situation is defused. That amount of training is about twice what the the average cop in my state gets. There are guys that work for some of the bigger cities who have never had con-sim training and only do the gun once per year and hand to hand once per year.

That is it. That is all the training. Occasionally they get a class here and there, but those are normally for specialized things like DUI etc.

Here is the kicker. Con-sim used to be mandatory in all the reserve academies. They would get at least 3 days of this before being allowed to become a reserve cop. That just got cut so all the new reserves from here on will not get that training.

It's not the cops fault. It is the politicians who keep cutting budgets and wasting money everywhere but where it is needed. In the end all the training in the world can't prepare you fully for the real thing so with most of these guys you have no idea exactly how they will react until they are in the situation. My buddy (who is a cop in my town) tells me that of the 12 officers they have there are only 4 of 5 of them that he really feels safe backing him up. It's pretty sad, but that is how it works.

It's pretty clear the cop tried to avoid the situation by backing up. The kid was trying to hit the cop with the bat and got shot when he busted the drivers window. Next swing hits the cop. Totally justified use of deadly force.

Go to a range. Set up a dummy with legs. walk about 5 to 10 feet away mark a spot.. run in a circle for 5 min as fast as you can stop on the spot. draw and shoot the dummy in the legs.


with your running you would have less than 1/3 the amount of adrenaline in your system that the cop had when he shot.

There is no law they make their own

Sad thig is, with the divorce and all, I doubt they could afford him :(

posts like these always make me wanna promote the sponsor you are spamming

it scared me a little bit

Damn, idiot fucks up and gets his ass shot and it turns into the government's fault. Around these parts the cops are the ones getting all the funds for new cars, weapons, tasers, and the list goes on and on.

What the fuck are you talking about? :1orglaugh

When did the NAACP get involved in this case?

I guess you havent seen what a bat can do to a head. Can easily kill someone.

But so can a unarmed 250 pound martial artist.

roundhouse kicking and one-inch punching police car windows will probably get someone shot as well

My point was that people are saying the cop was under-trained. If that is the case, it isn't the cops fault he is under-trained it is the government's fault for cutting budgets or setting up training guidelines that don't allow for him to get the training he would need. You might be shocked to find out just how under-trained the average police department is.