More Niche STEALS COMMISIONS FORM AFFILIATES!!!

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  • pornpf69
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2004
    • 15782

    #1

    More Niche STEALS COMMISIONS FORM AFFILIATES!!!

    yes... that is right... MORE NICHE STOLE $49.62 FROM A SALE I MADE OVER 1 YEAR AGO ON ONE OF THEIR PRODUCTS (Not to mention that they removed every single sale I made for WASS POKER and WASS ONLINE when they removed those programs from their website)
    THEY CLAIM TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THEIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND THAT SOMETHING IS NOT THERE!!!
    link to their Terms and Conditions: http://affiliates.moreniche.com/supp...sConditionals/

    what they CLAIM to be there
    Section 7.10

    MoreNiche will enforce the right to deduct any unclaimed affiliate commissions should they become inactive, an inactive affiliate is somebody who has not generated a single validated Transaction within a twelve month period and who has a balance of less than the agreed minimum payout.
    the interesting part is that their Terms and Conditions only goes to 7.8



    in the end they finally tell me that they have 2 different TERMS AND CONDITIONS pages... and it seems like they have different content on each o them...

    I hate these scammers that take money away from LEGIT AFFILIATES (even if I am not making many sales with them)

    so if you are looking for a good PENIS ENLARGEMENT SPONSOR STAY AWAY FROM MORE NICHE... go with something else... maybe Sell Health is a better option for you
  • Donners
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2004
    • 689

    #2
    that sucks

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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #3
      snooze you lose.

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      • pornpf69
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2004
        • 15782

        #4
        Originally posted by Agent 488
        snooze you lose.
        I hope they will lose more... since I already lost my $50... if they lose 1 or 2 affiliates that makes them 2 or 3 sales per day I would be really happy!!

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        • closer
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 1707

          #5
          not so uncommon, they just want to weed out the non-productive affiliates who have not generated any sales in a 12 month period.
          It was in their TOS and you agreed to them
          Last edited by closer; 10-13-2010, 12:01 PM.

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          • signupdamnit
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 6697

            #6
            I cannot get to the page: http://affiliates.moreniche.com/supp...sConditionals/ without logging in.

            But I found this which does have it:

            http://www.moreniche.com/terms.php

            The Google Cache with the date Sept 30 2010 also shows section 7.10:

            http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

            However the archive.org cache from 2008 (the latest they have) does NOT have that section.

            http://web.archive.org/web/200805131....com/terms.php

            It looks as if perhaps they kept two different Terms and conditions and neglected to change the one you are looking at? Assuming that's true in my opinion they should pay you out of goodwill. Bad publicity will cost them more than $50.
            Last edited by signupdamnit; 10-13-2010, 12:04 PM.

            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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            • Forkbeard
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 2236

              #7
              Yah, I have had a couple of programs that stop converting tell me that they are gonna eat my old rebills because *I* am supposedly "inactive" according to new terms and conditions they just pulled out of their ass. It's called "not understanding the revshare concept". Remember how these guys used to advertise how a successful affiliate could send traffic for a while and then retire to the beach and drink umbrella drinks while the money rolled in? Apparently they did not really mean it, lol.
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              • Tempest
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2004
                • 10217

                #8
                Originally posted by pornpf69
                I hope they will lose more... since I already lost my $50... if they lose 1 or 2 affiliates that makes them 2 or 3 sales per day I would be really happy!!
                Were you sending any traffic?

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                • signupdamnit
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6697

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Forkbeard
                  Yah, I have had a couple of programs that stop converting tell me that they are gonna eat my old rebills because *I* am supposedly "inactive" according to new terms and conditions they just pulled out of their ass. It's called "not understanding the revshare concept". Remember how these guys used to advertise how a successful affiliate could send traffic for a while and then retire to the beach and drink umbrella drinks while the money rolled in? Apparently they did not really mean it, lol.
                  I think when companies do this it's often desperation. They might need that 50% of rebills to stay afloat. I suspect that some companies "silently" drop the rebills. Obviously hard to prove....

                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                  • pornpf69
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 15782

                    #10
                    they DO have 2 different terms... and I only got to know about the http://www.moreniche.com/terms.php on their last reply to me... and you might notice that I was posting the URL from where I was getting the info since the post where they said that it was on their TOS...

                    looks like it is OK FOR THEM TO HAVE DIFFERENT TOS AND TO SCREW THE GUYS PROMOTING THEIR PRODUCTS... FROM NOW ON I WILL SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THEIR SCAM!!!

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                    • signupdamnit
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pornpf69
                      they DO have 2 different terms... and I only got to know about the http://www.moreniche.com/terms.php on their last reply to me... and you might notice that I was posting the URL from where I was getting the info since the post where they said that it was on their TOS...

                      looks like it is OK FOR THEM TO HAVE DIFFERENT TOS AND TO SCREW THE GUYS PROMOTING THEIR PRODUCTS... FROM NOW ON I WILL SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THEIR SCAM!!!
                      Take a screenshot of the terms you see inside your account area so you have proof. We can't see that without logging in.

                      Assuming it's true they partially fucked up by not updating those terms. But it may be more accidental (separate terms) than anything else. Too bad archive.org didn't keep better records so we could see when the terms actually changed.
                      Last edited by signupdamnit; 10-13-2010, 12:13 PM.

                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                      • pornpf69
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 15782

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tempest
                        Were you sending any traffic?
                        YES... very low traffic... but it was not converting... to become inactive according to their terms is not about sending traffic... but about generating sales...
                        not much traffic (from april 1st to april 4th - when my account became inactive)

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                        • Machete_
                          WINNING!
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 14579

                          #13
                          that's what you get for peddling snake oil

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                          • pornpf69
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 15782

                            #14
                            I have a PDF with all the TandC on it...

                            http://www.hornytoonsparty.com/moreniche-TandC.pdf

                            and below is the full IMAGE from their Terms and Conditions

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                            • Tempest
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2004
                              • 10217

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pornpf69
                              YES... very low traffic... but it was not converting... to become inactive according to their terms is not about sending traffic... but about generating sales...
                              not much traffic (from april 1st to april 4th - when my account became inactive)
                              Interesting... I had a very long period of sending quite a bit of traffic (more than you) without getting any sales either... Adult traffic just seems to suck for this stuff... Pretty sure it was over a year.. I think they "reclaimed" some money but not sure what that was... But they didn't cancel my account... Then I changed some things around and started sending more target traffic and started to make some sales again... So who knows what the real story is.

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