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RaiderCash_Dominik 10-13-2010 08:15 AM

I with owners of Epassporte were this quick to answer questions.

Davy 10-13-2010 08:23 AM

See - this is how a responsible CEO acts.
Not hiding out like Malick...

AnimeFevers 10-13-2010 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17602544)
See - this is how a responsible CEO acts.
Not hiding out like Malick...

I second this.

Ethersync 10-13-2010 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17602544)
See - this is how a responsible CEO acts.
Not hiding out like Malick...

Agreed...

RonC 10-13-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 17602513)
I with owners of Epassporte were this quick to answer questions.



HaHa

Well I was working out in my gym on the bike and Gfy is always funny to read while I kill time:) :thumbsup

Well off to get ready for the office to make sure your checks go out next week. So Conspiracy Theorist get your Tin Foil out and have fun LOL

Ron C
________
CEO

CCbill.com
Cavecreek.com
:thumbsup

AnimeFevers 10-13-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RonC (Post 17602567)
Well I was working out in my gym on the bike and Gfy is always funny to read while I kill time:) :thumbsup

Do you have a 32 inch plasma on the wall to watch while riding the bike?

CyberHustler 10-13-2010 08:44 AM

There's so much bullshit in this topic it's pathetic.

The friend of a person who robbed me gets treated like the person who robbed me...

I don't wanna hear nothing about no "keep business and friendship separate" shit when you people were sharing business addresses and giving each other parts in each others industry related movies and shit.

One company not integrating another company into their system means jack shit in this topic... don't try to use that as a "See? I'm not like my buddy" card. Especially with the ridiculous stats with one of those companies lately.

Phoenix 10-13-2010 08:51 AM

i think most everyone in the business knows that ccbill and epassporte are not connected

ccbill wont be giving money to people who lost to epassporte


i want my own plane too :)

DWB 10-13-2010 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC (Post 17602371)
1. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure.

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all.

Let me start by saying I am a satisfied CCbill client, but I would like to ask, if Chris used your office address and your plane, but yet you have no financial interest in the movie, it was all given to Chris based on your relationship as a friend? Your home, I understand, as my friends are always welcome at my home, but my place of work... my buddies do not get to use my office address nor would they get the keys to my plane if I had one. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that plane is owned by CCbill, and not a personal plane. If I am wrong about the ownership, BIG PROPS, playaaa.

My two cents... Such a professional and trusted operation as CCbill shouldn't be allowing anyone, friends or otherwise, to simply use their office address for "establishing their office." At that time, you are actually mixing your friendship into your business, which is what led to this thread no doubt. I find it hard to believe someone with the money Chris Mallick has, that he could not establish an office address in Phoenix, within a matter of a day.

Not that any of that matters, I still use CCbill and didn't lose a penny with ePass. I'm just pointing a few things out that struck me as slightly odd, and wanted to comment that part of the reason I am others trust you and your company, is because I did not think something like this, an unnecessary liability, as innocent as it may have been, would happen. To have your name and company pulled into any discussion right now about Chris and ePass is not a good thing, but at this point I'm afraid it is unavoidable.

Shit happens though, and we've all done things for friends that we shouldn't have. :2 cents:

signupdamnit 10-13-2010 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17602627)
There's so much bullshit in this topic it's pathetic.

The friend of a person who robbed me gets treated like the person who robbed me...

I don't wanna hear nothing about no "keep business and friendship separate" shit when you people were sharing business addresses and giving each other parts in each others industry related movies and shit.

One company not integrating another company into their system means jack shit in this topic... don't try to use that as a "See? I'm not like my buddy" card. Especially with the ridiculous stats with one of those companies lately.

I don't know what if any connection there really is or was (beyond what has been shown) nor the true extent but after reading Ron's words I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

One thing to realize is that Mallick was pretty big in the industry even before Epassporte so it only makes sense that Ron would see him a lot during shows and possibly have some sort of friendship develop over the years. Just keep that in mind.

96ukssob 10-13-2010 09:03 AM

what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them :2 cents:

sternyduke 10-13-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17602275)
proof or ban

:2 cents:

he didn't say anything wrong, it was a question moron :2 cents:

stocktrader23 10-13-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC (Post 17602371)
Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


Thanks

Ron C
_____________
CEO

CCbill.com
Cavecreek.com

Any chance you could ring your friend and ask him nicely if he plans to pay everyone?

:1orglaugh

stocktrader23 10-13-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17602696)
what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them :2 cents:

It would be the biggest hit to the industry in forever. You do realize all of the program owners processing through CCBill would lose their balls, right?

datatank 10-13-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17602309)
Hell if you want to go after everyone who's been in a picture with Chris Mallick or as been seen talking to him then put me in that list Choker...






LOL


Is it true Chris also used Rochards mustang in Middle Men?

datatank 10-13-2010 09:33 AM

RonC is the shit.

Oracle Porn 10-13-2010 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17602696)
what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them :2 cents:

smoking crack much?

12clicks 10-13-2010 09:42 AM

Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order

nation-x 10-13-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17602812)
Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order

QFT :thumbsup

Choker 10-13-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17602812)
Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.

Nice reply. So your saying that the thousands of people with frozen money in epassporte are all idiots and deserve to lose everything?

TurboAngel 10-13-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17602812)
Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order

got ya out of the red!

96ukssob 10-13-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17602754)
It would be the biggest hit to the industry in forever. You do realize all of the program owners processing through CCBill would lose their balls, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17602799)
smoking crack much?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah, posted first then thought about it... i take it back :winkwink:

GonZo 10-13-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17602812)
Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order

Its rare but I agree with 12clicks.

NaughtyRob 10-13-2010 10:07 AM

Michael O!!!!!

Hey dude, I hope all is well with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17602420)
From what I know ePassporte and CCBill have never had anything to do with ePassporte other than Chris and Ron know each other and the only way I know this is because I met them at the show in Amsterdam a few years back.
I tried years ago to get ePassporte to pick up CCBill as a client it never happened I do not know why but if CCBill had any interest in ePassporte they would surely have used ePassporte as a payout option.


minicivan 10-13-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17602833)
Nice reply. So your saying that the thousands of people with frozen money in epassporte are all idiots and deserve to lose everything?

People that were using it as a savings account deserve to lose all their money. They have always been barely one notch above completely incompetent since they opened their doors. Their entire operation from users perspective with regards to their money or support, hinged on whether or not they could get michael on ICQ which is insane at best, not to mention all the other crap like peoples accounts being hacked/compromised and money being drained and being told "too bad" and similar things.

Everyone knew they were the preferred method of choice for supporting illegal offshore gaming transactions. Everyone knew (or should) that a large % of people using epasse are cheating taxes. Finally, the bubble bursts and like always, just like each time an inept IPSP collapses or runs with the funds, everyone acts surprised and shocked and can't believe it even though they spent years waving a sign in front of your face that screamed "we're incompetent shit heads".

When you thrust your money into a dark web of offshore banking havens ran by pornographers for any time longer than it takes you to immediately withdraw it, you are an idiot. When you keep it there, you deserve to lose it.
:2 cents:

suesheboy 10-13-2010 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17602627)
There's so much bullshit in this topic it's pathetic.

The friend of a person who robbed me gets treated like the person who robbed me...

I don't wanna hear nothing about no "keep business and friendship separate" shit when you people were sharing business addresses and giving each other parts in each others industry related movies and shit.

One company not integrating another company into their system means jack shit in this topic... don't try to use that as a "See? I'm not like my buddy" card. Especially with the ridiculous stats with one of those companies lately.

Thank you.

We now have another company to watch out for and avoid.

sextoyking 10-13-2010 10:32 AM

Dragging ccbill into this mess... Please........

I have never used ccbill but I will tell you they are stand up company in my opinion.

Having had dinner a couple of times in the past with Ron and crew was great. You can in just a few minutes with ron that he is a good fellow.


Choker - I understand you want your money and so does everyone else - but I would say to you - on this thread you failed :(

peace

Todd

The Porn Nerd 10-13-2010 10:45 AM

Ron C:

We have an expression here in New York City. Perhaps you have this same expression in Arizona (although with your low precipitation, maybe not):

"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining."

So: "Hey Chris buddy! Need an office? A plane? Need CCBill's office addy for credibility for x,y, and z? No prob buddy! Want my limo driver? Hey, buddy, here ya go, anything you need "friend"!" Then: "I have no business with Chris."

un-huh. Get better friends Ron.

And explain to me why, in October, tho nothing has changed on my end (traffic, promotion, etc) my CCBill sales have been bobbing up and down like a stripper slurping Tommy Lee's cock? One day decent, next day shitty, etc, the entire month. Could it be because of your "friendships"?

LOL Okay - tin foil hats - but Ron C, you lay with down dogs you get up with fleas so don't blame the people wondering wtf. And get my account rocking. :D

AnimeFevers 10-13-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17602812)
Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order

You're right dragging ccbill into this mess is wrong but you can't say it's our fault for having our money frozen. How on earth can we control something that's out of our hands, trusting epass was our mistake in the end though.

12clicks 10-13-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17602833)
Nice reply. So your saying that the thousands of people with frozen money in epassporte are all idiots and deserve to lose everything?

deserve to lose everything? no.
however, pulling ccbill into it is the same mental midgetry that exposes you to loses like this.

alias 10-13-2010 10:54 AM

You guys got your blinders on? Who gave away free tickets for middle men on here.. .

icymelon 10-13-2010 11:12 AM

I dont think epass has ties to ccbill. proof would be ccbill payments via epass which never was available. But epass I do believe was spun off from paycom

JFK 10-13-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 17602872)
Its rare but I agree with 12clicks.

Lets make this a red letter day then :1orglaugh

chronig 10-13-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17602696)
what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them :2 cents:

CCBill charges up the ass and has a motherfucking jet, they're not going anywhere anytime soon...

signupdamnit 10-13-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17603055)
You guys got your blinders on? Who gave away free tickets for middle men on here.. .

The ties between them and the movie make me nervous. But everything I see suggests mainly a friendship between them and nothing more. The closest thing to show a business connection is the common address issue which is admittedly suspicious. But Ron has explained that. Either he's lying or is telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe him given his history though I question his taste in friends :2 cents:

Tempest 10-13-2010 11:20 AM

Mallick could learn something about how to be a fucking CEO and communicate with your customers from Ron.

will76 10-13-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17602273)


Damn Choker you think you would know better. Some people would have been banned for this not sure if you will be or not.

Your title insinuates that ccbill seems to be involved with epassporte.

I read the info on the site and it just shows a connection that Ron has with Chris in regards to middle men movie. It gives no information that ccbill is involved with epassporte in any way. It looks like (i haven't seen the movie to confirm it) that Ron may have been in the movie, who knows if he invested or not and who cares.

making an accusation and putting a "?" on the end of it doesn't make it ok. And the accusation is way off base, even that site gives no proof to even elude to there being involvement between ccbill and epass. Not even close. Just Ron and Chris being friends and some kind of way involved with a movie. :disgust:Oh crap

alias 10-13-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17603161)
The ties between them and the movie make me nervous. But everything I see suggests mainly a friendship between them and nothing more. The closest thing to show a business connection is the common address issue which is admittedly suspicious. But Ron has explained that. Either he's lying or is telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe him given his history though I question his taste in friends :2 cents:

Old school guys, hard to control what someone you know does or how they act. :2 cents:

Ayla_SquareTurtle 10-13-2010 11:39 AM

When two different businesses use the same address, it doesn't really make much sense to get all up in arms when people question their relationship. Welcome to reality.

JFK 10-13-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17603161)
The ties between them and the movie make me nervous. But everything I see suggests mainly a friendship between them and nothing more. The closest thing to show a business connection is the common address issue which is admittedly suspicious. But Ron has explained that. Either he's lying or is telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe him given his history though I question his taste in friends :2 cents:

True Friends are friends, they do not desert you, when you are in shit :2 cents:


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