LinkSpun idiots

stop worrying about page rank, look at domain age, traffic, outgoing links, rankings. anything but pagerank.

I have 260 active trades and have never sent a single request.... Pornhub is pr 5 but they have links from EVERYWHERE. At end of day all that matter is the surfers who click your links. They dont give a shit about your pr. Ill take a nicely placed pr0 link with traffic over a small pr3 footer link anyday. And get it for free too.

If only i could rep you...but makes me think about gfy

That used to be very true. These days it isn't.
The last significant PR update was at the end of March. Before that was New Years Eve.
That means most sites have not been adjusted more than twice in the past 10 months.
So sites that 'should be' PR3 are PR0 and sites that 'should be' PR0 are PR3. That does *not* mean the algo is counting them the way their displayed PR lists them. The algo is up to date and continually updated I am sure... the displayed PR is not.

Put yourself in Google's shoes. Why would you give webmasters an accurate, easy and updated way to decide which sites to buy links from, how to sculpt their own link weight, etc... when your goal is to get the best sites top ranked. Google wants the best sites on top, webmasters want the sites they own on top. PR helps webmasters, not Google. That's why they killed it... and yet many webmasters refuse to believe it.

There is no substitute for actually visiting a site these days, looking at it, deciding if its a site worth reading or capable of entertaining visitors.... and that is exactly what Google wants people to do.

Just some basic info about the quality of the trades, these are non deniable, and pretty much say it all I think.

We have 91,258 Total trade requests as of this posting.
OF THESE WE HAVE:
26,943 Total active, trades completed and being tracked. 30% of ALL requests have turned into active trades.
45,802 Total denials. Almost exactly 50% of requests end up denied at one point of the request stage.
18,513 In Limbo, requested but not denied, waiting links etc, 20% are in limbo.

Now in my opinion, factor almost 1,100 different webmasters preferences, their site dossier, their experience and quality of their sites and then also 'idiot' and 'spammer' factors and ending up with 30%-35% off all trade requests sitewide going live is pretty solid.

I think it's more then solid, I think it's completely badass. A system like this is user based, no matter what we try and do, we need users to join. We need new webmasters as much as we need old webmasters. And like anything that is user based, we have to factor in and expect, different types of users, ones who may not have much experience, or have much resources (sites) to utilize.

What we do have is numerous ways to combat it and make it so it shouldn't be an issue for those who want to limit those trade requests or dealings with other people. You can simply hide the domains you don't want requests to, you can block the user who spammed you with weak trades. You could comment back to that user and tell him you want 3-4 links for your 1, or you could comment back and tell him to pound salt and not bother you until he has some sites added with what you see as value.

Most of the latest updates that have been added as of late are user based convenience features (quickurls/quick anchor, and similar) but also have been towards filtering and allowing a user to filter what he sees and does. Filtering out what a user allows OTHERS to see and do is a much more complex thing, and we are still a 'young' site at only 6 months old. Rest assured there will continue to be updates and features added to make more efficient use of your trading time, that is the entire goal here. Put 10's of thousands of sites to trade with at your fingertips, and make it all idiot proof.

I am always interested in tweaking the system, and want to remove people who attempt to abuse the system, or take advantage of the users, I need you to Report these Users to myself on the site (The button saying REPORT) so I can have all the data in front of me and make educated decisions based on it.

seems a lot of asses like to decline trade requests that would benefit them cos they think their sites are somehow too good. your loss I guess.

PR is retarded

it shows pr0 on the tool bar because it hit number 1 for "porn" before the toolbar update.

you are a fucking moron

Can't you guys understand that you DONT KNOW THE PR OF A PAGE? The pages linking to you could be PR10 or could have changed.. but you don't know that because Google doesn't update the toolbar frequently. PageRank is calculated in real time. Tool bar PR is not. When you see the toolbar PR, you are seeing a scale of a pages true PR and you are seeing what it was many months ago, not what it is today.

The PR of every page online affects the PR of every other page online. Things change that are outside your view of whats going on that affects your sites. for example, sites linking to you are gaining/losing links daily as well. How that happens, from where/what quality links etc also affects you.

when I get those I just hit delete

Tell us how you really feel Minicivan!

same in here...
I have like 100s of request and I don't have patience to mess with those...
like 90% are unreal requests...

I jumped the gun in assuming what relentless was saying. I was wrong to say that or attack him. I sincerely apologize.

Pr matters.

that is all.

What you get for requests and deals is going to directly reflect on what you've put in. Your profile has 8 domains, and 37 freehosted blogs on them a lot look like newer sites, none have any pr (PR Isn't everything, but a network full of 0's is what it is).

You also have a thread in the forums started about you not adding links, or taking weeks to add them, this all plays part in how many requests you'll get, and obviously DIRECTLY effect how many quality people are going to send you requests (you'll get 0 good ones).

I don't even use Linkspun - yet - but I dig JDoughs veracity so bump for the JDough man!