Choker, the thread title is "Here we FUCKING GO", if you add "Epassporte" in the thread title more people will find out about. I almost missed that thread, because there was no "Epassporte" in the title. I read all threads that contain Epass/Epassporte in the title. Maybe the admins of GFY can let you edit the title and add "Epassporte"?

Thank you Choker, and thank you GFY. Without the information posted and shared a lot of people would have much more money frozen and would not have a chance to join forces and fight for their money.

almost true

I personally know one owner of a webcam studio in Estonia that lost a fortune with ePassporte. It was his bank.

The site was at $3 mio when I checked it this morning. What happened to the rest?

they've read my post :1orglaugh

We have been deleting obvious bogus posts. Kids will be kids

Oh my god, this is terrible. Not a very smart decision.

very nice :thumbsup

nice!
we already signed up

I was just joking around - GREAT work Choker! I have no dog in this fight as I never used ePassports (thank heavens now) but YOU GO GET THOSE FUCKERS man!! Total respect over here for anyone trying to get some fucking JUSTICE.

Just make sure you know the money is gone before you go to court.
Talking lawsuit too early helps noone.

He is a USA Citizen and was doing business w/ USA Citizens.

i'm ready to give all my wallet money to see chris mallick suffer...

How exactly does talking lawsuit too soon help no one? Having a backup plan and at least gathering stats from people now to prepare for a lawsuit if the 18th turns out to be another delaying tactic is just stupid right? Why have a back plan right? Let's just play it day by day.

$2.46 million

http://epassportelawsuit.com/

I misread the Epass message. ...They do not have the money, that's why they blocked ACHs.

I believe 2 things should be understood starting immediately by everyone involved.

First, we should separate VV money and Wallet money once and for all! VV money are safe, hold by SKNANB and being released to the people via the actual cards or by other methods. Epassporte has nothing to do with these money any longer. There are a few people on the website list with 0.00 in wallet and a lot in VV. These people should be told their money are safe and they can reach them via SKNANB

Epassporte money means Wallet money ONLY at this point. And this is what we are after. Adding the VV to the situation and to the grand total will only add to the confusion. Only mentioning VV money in the lawsuit will make us look like asses.


The second thing is we (an actual lawyer) should work on this as soon as possible putting a PLAN of action together. At this point Epassporte is blatantly lying saying on their main page: "[..] we sort through the many issues with the Bank and Visa". They are not only lying, they are insulting our intelligence. If anyone believes that, that person deserves what's coming to him/her. Visa works in such a way they had ZERO involvement in the whole deal from the start and the only bank that still is involved in this is the itrust-bank ( Epass' OWN bank ) that managed/hold the Epassport Wallet money

From day one I believe Epassporte's only fight was not to recuperate money for its clients and save business, but to gain as much possible for themselves, just like you wanted to get as much out for yourself they were viciously fighting to get as much possible into their own pockets. Understand that as we "fight" to get our money back they ( Christopher ) is fighting 100 times harder to cover up all tracks while not paying a dime


The sooner we acknowledge these 2 points the better

yes, VV money is another story, ePass has nothing to do with it any longer. so it can be removed from the site.

Roger
October 09, 2010 05:54:07 pm
Those that think Chris isn't going to pay out are koo-koo.

Holy shit the numbers are going up FAST

I wish there was some way of confirming them, although i know that would be impossible

It doesn't matter....it is part and parcel of the whole situation....

I doubt that will happen, i cant even get a responce back from the emails that i have sent

When the money on vv has been returned to everyone then it is no longer a issue. At this point it is a issue therefore I will include it at this time. All money went in via epassporte therefore epassporte is responsible for it all. You are wrong on this point. Are you certain that every single sent sent to Virtual accounts via epassporte admin ACTUALLY went there? No your not therefore the virtual issue is still a open issue. The day EVERYONE gets every single cent out of their virtual account is the day that no longer is a issue.

Your second point you are right but no lawyer is gonna actually work on this until we know aproximetly how much money we are talking about here. This website's sole purpose in life is to ascertain that. And no attorney is gonna work on this without a retainer.
So how do you propose to get a attorney at this point in time to work on this RIGHT NOW? What could he possible do other than what I'm attempting to do? You think people are gonna start sending in moeny for retainers at this point? I don't think so.

bump :thumbsup

Choker-

Just have to say that you're quite the entertainment,

You create a thread asking for people to get on board and then toss obscenities at everyone who disagrees with you. Actually sometimes even those who agree with you. Excellent way to garner support.

Pure comedy sir.

Just like your F*ck!ng s!silly lawsuit!

I remember this optimistic thread a few weeks ago: "Epassporte UPDATE 9/17 8:49am Possible reinstatement of visa cards" and my reply to it:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17513158&postcount=22

It still surprises me that so many webmasters believed things will work out and they will get their money back after all the too-big-to-run sponsors and processors have ran with webmaster money since the start of this industry. I can't think of a single instance where webmasters got their money back. Anyone?

I wish everyone success with this lawsuit, but most likely they've moved all funds to an offshore bank account, possibly in the name of a trust, and there's no personal liability.

I think it's time to cut out these middleman card companies and find a solution with banks - EU has this option already and now US banks are also testing free bank-to-bank transfers between the major banks, takes 3 days atm, but will become faster, maybe even instant like Paypal soon. Sponsors could just offer international affiliates the service of assisting them with opening an US bank account when a certain balance has been reached.

Someone could start offering the service of opening US accounts for non-US webmasters. I know it was pretty much impossible to open an US bank over phone/internet from Europe after 9/11, but when I stepped into an US bank branch, it was setup in minutes, and instantly got a debit card and check book.

Lets consolidate the industry and make it stronger.

We submitted our info on epassportelawsuit.com ($xxx.xxx), but it wasn't added - the owner may be serious, but the site seems not. Good luck anyway.

He's vetting every entry. He'll add it once he can confirm it's genuine.

3.0 million

http://epassportelawsuit.com/

Yeap that's what they said when we sued Paypal...but we won....and I got my money.

What comes around goes around :thumbsup :2 cents:

I pulled my 400 bucks out, but for everyone that has thousands still in there good luck, I hope this action works out for you all.

Your the first person to report this, try it again.

Pretty sure I have not thrown obscenitites at anyone in this thread yet, let me go back and read all my posts when I get a chance.

loool, oh noesss i cant join with chokers halfassed try.
Im sorry for all the people that you make believe theres a chance in hell they will ever see their money back thanks to your lameass attempt. Cant wait untill you start asking people to prepay the "lawyer". If mallick is fcking us he moved the funds weeks ago, you wont be getting it, he will have a safe harbour construction for the company too. You act like he just stepped in, he will know how to nail this if he wants to fuck us. If i wanted i'd jumpstart that lawyer of yours and even add 2 more, THATS how much money i have in there. But hey, you dont wanted me in right :)

stop crying, start living up to your big site there, for the sake of the people believing in it i hope you succeed.. Just making a site with names and numbers wont impress those that Acan REALLY make the difference. Its equally impressive as all threads about it on gfy.

Btw the irs said hi, they wanted the ip's of the contributers by monday ;)

hey CHoker, pls contact me on ICQ, I have some info that may (or may not) be important for this, you'll decide

Just a FYI, the attorney I spoke to gave me a estimated quote of 25k to get a lawsuit like this going. Right now there's 3 mill on the site so 1% of 3 mill is 30k. I will not in any shape form or manner make any decisions whatsoever regarding anything at all. My role to date is simply making this website so we can do some fact finding. I think with 3 mill that is enough to show that guys are serious. There are several guys gathering evidence on Epassporte. At this point in time I see no reason for me to do the same. Like everyone else I'm waiting on the 18th to see what happens.

So your saying you reported this website to the IRS? In doing so your trying to destroy people you don't even know for no reason? I pay my taxes buddy, every 3 months. Do you?
This goes to prove that you are by far the biggest piece of shit on the planet.

I've been reading countless posts in many threads saying "make sure you have a screenshot". But I've always wondered how well a screenshot would hold up, legally. It's easy to Photoshop a few numbers and letters.

Input?

What a sad person you are :Oh crap

It's easy to photoshop any picture also. From my exp when you submit a photo for evidence the person that took the picture has to be available for questioning. I would think the same rules would apply if you took a screenshot, but I'm not a attorney and can't give legal advice. I think the photo/screenshot's credibility would be tied directly to the person who took it's credibility when questioned about it.

this is kinda funny suggestion.. try to take a photo of the screenshot using a film camera.. keep the negative etc.. i think that would help! :)