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  • DWB
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 31779

    #136
    Originally posted by Nathan
    All of you, have not understood DMCA. It clearly says we can not select. So no, the USER has editorial rights, we do not, that's the whole point of a tube. We do have the right to screen for illegal content.
    Nathan, if someone violates your TOS, I would think you could delete, ban or anything you want based on that TOS violation. Otherwise, why bother have a TOS in the first place? It then becomes a TOS violation and not a DMCA issue.

    Originally posted by Nathan
    Possibly removing all content when banning a user for dmca is ok, but until I discuss it with our lawyers I can not comment on it.
    I know if I could spend 100+ million dollars on a company and had the kind of wealth you supposedly have, I would have my attorney on speed dial and he would take my calls 24/7. At the very least, take my call in the daytime.

    I don't even have 1 million dollars and my attorney will do that for me.

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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94722

      #137
      There's no business like porn business...

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      • DWB
        Registered User
        • Jul 2003
        • 31779

        #138
        Originally posted by Nathan
        You know _NOTHING_ about me
        Based on the photo that was posted of you before, I _KNOW_ you are pretty enough to want to fuck. And I mean that.

        I could look at your pretty face for hours. It's so feminine and smooth looking. Your skin is so pale and soft, like a school boy. Seriously, you give me wood. And while I _DO_ believe in violence, real bad third world violence, I would _NEVER_ want to hurt you. Just the opposite. I would treat you like a like a fragile virgin school boy. Even your name, "Fabian," makes me hot for you. You're just like an innocent, bratty, little boy. Do you mind if I start calling you Pretty Boy Fabian? That gets me hard.

        You don't have to answer this here (ICQ is fine), but have you ever had a more masculine and slightly older man cum inside your ass before? I think you would like it once you were comfortable with a big strong cock in your ass.

        All piracy, thieving, lying, cheating and scum-baggery aside, if you ever want to hook up, ICQ me. I _WILL_ turn you out.

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        • DWB
          Registered User
          • Jul 2003
          • 31779

          #139
          Originally posted by charlie g
          Per PornHub.com TOS ~
          "[I]You agree that Pornhub may at its sole discretion have the right to refuse to publish, remove, or block access to any User Submission that is available via the Website or other Pornhub network or services at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all, with or without notice.
          I just wanted to quote that again, thanks Charlie.

          Forget DMCA, it is in violation of their site terms.


          Anything that violates their TOS should supersede a DMCA, as it has broken their site terms and at that point has nothing to do with DMCA, it is simply a matter of a user who violated the rules of the site, which at that time Pornhub or whoever *may* at their sole discretion to pretty much to anything they want. That is the reason for TERMS.

          I find it absolutely hilarious that a guy, a programmer nonetheless, can buy such an expensive criminal enterprise... I mean business, and have absolutely no clue over the day to day operations of it or even who in the FBI you have contact with to report child porn when it's uploaded. Both a programmer and a man of such wealth has to pay attention to details, that is why they can do what they do. How can you delegate responsibilities if you don't even know why the fuck is going on or what you can and can not do? Don't worry, no answer is required until you check with the attorney about what you should say.

          Regardless of all that, I'd still like to cum in Nathan's ass.

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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #140
            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
            it is not a problem at youtube ,google,twitter,facebook or any other law abiding company fyi. I have never seen a law that requires you to host files for people you have reason to believe are criminals.

            But let's not beat around the bush , you can delete any file for any reason you want. You would delete a video if a person appeared underage right ? without proof right ? because it is the right thing to do , so don't play games, do the right thing, don't look the other way for criminals because it makes you more profit.
            I uploaded some of my promo videos for Astral Blue on Youtube. They were very soft and softer than some of the stuff on Youtube. Got a complaint on one video and the lot came down. No DMCA, notification or anything. The only problem I expect was the advert at the front and back. A static picture with the URL. I broke their TOS and everything came down.

            Fabian is full of it as usual. Or Youtube are breaking the law.



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            • Nathan
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 3108

              #141
              Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
              Based on the photo that was posted of you before, I _KNOW_ you are pretty enough to want to fuck. And I mean that.

              I could look at your pretty face for hours. It's so feminine and smooth looking. Your skin is so pale and soft, like a school boy. Seriously, you give me wood. And while I _DO_ believe in violence, real bad third world violence, I would _NEVER_ want to hurt you. Just the opposite. I would treat you like a like a fragile virgin school boy. Even your name, "Fabian," makes me hot for you. You're just like an innocent, bratty, little boy. Do you mind if I start calling you Pretty Boy Fabian? That gets me hard.

              You don't have to answer this here (ICQ is fine), but have you ever had a more masculine and slightly older man cum inside your ass before? I think you would like it once you were comfortable with a big strong cock in your ass.

              All piracy, thieving, lying, cheating and scum-baggery aside, if you ever want to hook up, ICQ me. I _WILL_ turn you out.
              I'm afraid that pic that was posted is rather old So I am not sure if you would still like my ass so much when you see me in person I'm afraid :/
              "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
              - Charlie Munger

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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #142
                Originally posted by Robbie
                I've owned websites a LOT longer than you have. And I've owned content a LOT longer than you have...unless you were a big site owner dating back to the mid-1990's.

                And you are looking really dumb when you say you can't take something down off of your own site. Bullshit. And everyone knows that. There is NO law in existence that says you have to have anything on Pornhub. You could delete the entire site right now if you wanted to. You could decide to shut it down and take it offline if you wanted to...or does DMCA say you "can't" LOL

                WTF kind of b.s. is this? Pornhub is just a website. One of millions. It isn't some kind of national treasure that must be protected at all costs. You can delete every video right now if you want to.

                You could find JESUS today and decide it's going to be an all religious tube from now on and go in there and delete every porn video in the data base and replace them all with Christian videos. No law says you can't.

                No way you're this damn dumb. I think you are just doing another version of trolling to piss people off.
                When you think about it for 5 minutes it becomes clear Fabian is full of shit or just lying.

                An owner of a site can take down anything he sees fit to. If not Youtube would of been put over a barrel time and time again. Site owner have been deleting content after it was put up for as long as these UGC sites have existed.

                Fabian seems very clued in about other aspects of the DMCA, yet clueless on this one. Even when told it's pirated and he checked it's pirated, it stay up.



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                • Robbie
                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20960

                  #143
                  Originally posted by Nathan
                  not sure if you would still like my ass so much when you see me in person I'm afraid :/
                  You don't know Dirty White Boy very well do you?
                  -Robbie
                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                  • BlackCrayon
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 19634

                    #144
                    i don't even know why 'nathan' posts here. where is everyone going with this? they are stinking rich and couldn't give a fuck. who knows where they got all the money to start out but for the most part, it seems these illegal tube profiteers are the same kind of people who would rob banks if they could find a legal loophole that would let them get away with it.
                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Nathan
                      Ron,

                      As you pasted, YouTube does not say they remove all videos once they terminate access, they also do not say what a repeat infringer is. Unless I missed that part obviously.

                      And no, editorial rights, as per DMCA, is selecting content. We can for example not choose what content we like that gets uploaded and what we do not and then not let certain things come online. This is illegal as per DMCA. Deleting videos after the fact with a reason like "you uploaded 2000 videos and 2 were DMCA'd, obviously all other 1998 are infringing although interestingly enough we have only received 2 DMCA's in the last 2 months" does not sound so great to me. Of course we could just guess... but let's imagine this...

                      There is a user, he runs a service which uploads videos to tubes for content owners. The content owners hire him to upload. One of the content owners changes his mind and DMCA's the 2 videos he had him upload. So now we delete the other 1000 videos the user uploaded... We had no reason to do so in the end. Actually, in theory, one of the content owners could sue us because of unfair competition caused when we removed their video from our site and thus cost them branding views.

                      I know, I know, everyone will now again call me a thief and stupid and that I have no clue and that obviously I am just playing... still, I have the urge to comment... stupid me.
                      I will bow to your knowledge of employing a service to upload videos.



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                      • tony286
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021

                        #146
                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                        Nathan, if someone violates your TOS, I would think you could delete, ban or anything you want based on that TOS violation. Otherwise, why bother have a TOS in the first place? It then becomes a TOS violation and not a DMCA issue.



                        I know if I could spend 100+ million dollars on a company and had the kind of wealth you supposedly have, I would have my attorney on speed dial and he would take my calls 24/7. At the very least, take my call in the daytime.

                        I don't even have 1 million dollars and my attorney will do that for me.
                        If you could spend 100+ million dollars to buy a company would you be going back and forth on GFY? But maybe if you are paid to play someone who paid 100+ million dollars then being a GFY is just the avg work day.

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                        • DWB
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31779

                          #147
                          Originally posted by Nathan
                          I'm afraid that pic that was posted is rather old So I am not sure if you would still like my ass so much when you see me in person I'm afraid :/
                          Don't be so hard on yourself. You have a young face, will age very well. I bet you're still quite a hottie.

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                          • DWB
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 31779

                            #148
                            Originally posted by tony286
                            If you could spend 100+ million dollars to buy a company would you be going back and forth on GFY? But maybe if you are paid to play someone who paid 100+ million dollars then being a GFY is just the avg work day.
                            For the records, if I had 100 million dollars, none of you would ever see or hear from my monkey ass again.

                            Seriously, that is a LOT of money. How much more do you need before you just go do fun shit all the time with your family? I know I wouldn't be on GFY, that is for damn sure.

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                            • Agent 488
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #149
                              aw come on manwin appeared just mansef was coming under pressure from lawsuits, the feds and were the subject of a investigative series in their local paper.

                              sure the paper trails is long and deep and clouded now. nathan is just the pr man of this new entity.

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                              • Nathan
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3108

                                #150
                                I'm a horribly bad pr man Good thing that we have someone else actually in charge of PR other than me...

                                I'm just a bored person on days where I have little to do, like the weekend... so I sit on GFY and post, you should notice that I post more on weekends and on holidays than on other days, far more actually...

                                But I can not expect you guys to think for yourselves obviously... much easier to just claim that noone in their right mind that has enough money to buy something like Mansef would actually spend time on GFY... I've been here from ages, just because I found a way to grow my business very well does not mean I have to run away and all of a sudden hide, especially when the subject is stuff that applies to me... heck, people are posting my full name and pictures of myself here, you guys are like stalkers <G>

                                Why would I not be replying to you... Got nothing better to do right now :/ Late in europe, holiday in North America :/

                                And waiting for something fun to happen very close to times square today.. so I have to stay up
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