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  • Dirty Dane
    Sick Fuck
    • Feb 2004
    • 9491

    #46
    Originally posted by Nathan
    I can not say 100%, since it depends on many factors, but usually they would remain public. Under certain circumstances they all get removed.
    Banning a user is a certain circumstance and other hosts like YouTube or Rapidshare remove all content from public if the user is banned. I can't see why a porn tube is different regarding DMCA. The user is no longer in control and can't respond on claims if you keep it online.
    Last edited by Dirty Dane; 10-08-2010, 03:47 PM.

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    • fris
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2002
      • 55679

      #47
      ya if the content isnt owned by him, they should get removed, and whats with the users registering weeks ago, and last time they were online was a year ago, think you fucked up when registering fake nicks so you can get away with uploading stolen videos.
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      • charlie g
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2006
        • 2759

        #48
        Uh Oh Fabien/Nathian. You dun goofed!!!! Cyber police backtraced you and is coming for you. Fucking thief.
        AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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        • Agent 488
          Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 22511

          #49
          i think it just proves i just came on a sock.

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          • signupdamnit
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 6697

            #50
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            Doing a little search and found this guy.

            http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

            This is his profile.

            * Joined: 4 days ago
            * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
            * Videos Watched: 226
            * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

            So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

            But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

            So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

            He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.
            Not sure if this is really a normal user account or not but talk about MASSIVE pirate content:

            http://www.pornhub.com/users/anonymous


            Joined: 3 years ago
            Last Login: 11 months ago
            Videos Watched: 174
            People have watched anonymous videos: 911238160 times

            Public Videos (16884)
            Private Videos (2565)


            Name: anonymous
            Age: 29
            Gender:
            Relationship Status: Open
            Interested In: Girls + Guys
            Profile Viewed: 1190987 Times
            Despite "Last Login: 11 Months ago"

            This video: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=298394919 Claims to be "Added: 1 month ago"

            And there are also private videos which claim to be added "2 weeks ago"



            Here's another that Half man, Half Amazing brought up in the other topic:

            http://www.pornhub.com/users/JJ09


            Joined: 1 year ago
            Last Login: 5 days ago
            Videos Watched: 225
            People have watched JJ09 videos: 3494916 times
            But videos added "4 days ago" such as this one:

            http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=587044175

            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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            • RycEric
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2009
              • 1313

              #51
              Originally posted by Paper_Amar
              Since you can subpoena ISPs for IPs and name/address of downloaders/Torrent guys/ Why cant the same be down for uploaders?
              We are doing that. It's been a long time coming. It's time consuming so only the biggest fish will be sought.

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              • RycEric
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2009
                • 1313

                #52
                Originally posted by charlie g
                Uh Oh Fabien/Nathian. You dun goofed!!!! Cyber police backtraced you and is coming for you. Fucking thief.
                Quite sincere looking though.
                Last edited by RycEric; 10-08-2010, 11:35 PM.

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                • RycEric
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1313

                  #53
                  Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                  If I had a tube and had people uploading for me, I would not have them doing it from the office. I'd spread people out across the world to do it. India, Philippines, New Work, Texas, Canada, and so on. You would never get caught that way.
                  or Ukraine, Argentina, Ohio, India and Brazil.

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                  • Nathan
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3108

                    #54
                    Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                    Actually, it's 7 infringing videos and I stopped when I was on page 12 out of 99. Will look through the rest tomorrow, but I do know for a fact this user does not have the rights to 2300+ videos. Every page of the 12 was full of DVD scenes I know from other studios.

                    You can't say you bought the rights to those video because that would connect him to your company. He sure as hell didn't buy the rights to them just to give them away for free, and why steal any if you have 2300 legal ones?

                    Use your head. In this case, it is a no brainier those videos are not supposed to be there. To think they do, for any reason, says you are being negligent.
                    Sorry, but you have a small flaw in your logic...

                    I can buy licenses which allow me to have videos on tube sites even if not uploaded by me... YouTube does this all the time... so can we...

                    You should really stop thinking I am somehow stupid...
                    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                    - Charlie Munger

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                    • Nathan
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3108

                      #55
                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                      Not sure if this is really a normal user account or not but talk about MASSIVE pirate content:

                      http://www.pornhub.com/users/anonymous




                      Despite "Last Login: 11 Months ago"

                      This video: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=298394919 Claims to be "Added: 1 month ago"

                      And there are also private videos which claim to be added "2 weeks ago"



                      Here's another that Half man, Half Amazing brought up in the other topic:

                      http://www.pornhub.com/users/JJ09



                      But videos added "4 days ago" such as this one:

                      http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=587044175
                      Anonymous is a special account.

                      Video "added" does not mean it was "uploaded" 4 days ago...
                      "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                      - Charlie Munger

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                      • Nathan
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3108

                        #56
                        Originally posted by charlie g
                        Uh Oh Fabien/Nathian. You dun goofed!!!! Cyber police backtraced you and is coming for you. Fucking thief.
                        If you have to post useless replies, at least try to write my name(s) right...
                        "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                        - Charlie Munger

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Nathan
                          No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                          DMCA does not say you have to allow a law breakers uploaded content to stay on your site. It says you can't select, there is no selection involved. The entire account is deleted, including all his uploaded content, for breaking the LAW. Not your TOS.

                          Originally posted by Nathan
                          I can not say 100%, since it depends on many factors, but usually they would remain public. Under certain circumstances they all get removed.
                          So now you can't say 100%. So what are the factors or/and certain circumstances that prohibit you from deleting a law breakers content?



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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Nathan
                            Sorry, but you have a small flaw in your logic...

                            I can buy licenses which allow me to have videos on tube sites even if not uploaded by me... YouTube does this all the time... so can we...

                            You should really stop thinking I am somehow stupid...
                            So you own the licenses on videos not owned by you or your company? How the fuck would you know that until you get a DMCA pointing out otherwise? On content you say you own and uploaded by someone not connected to you or your company.

                            You could clear up a lot of doubt by making your uploaders of your licensed content upload under your companies name. Not a list of nick names that mean nothing.

                            Here's an interesting find. http://www.pornhub.com/users/bryanc

                            Joined: 1 year ago
                            Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                            Videos Watched: 94
                            People have watched bryanc videos: 17,797,701 times

                            He's got a whole load of Back Seat Bangers videos, owned by Top Buck, 23 full length scenes. Of the 1045 videos this guy uploaded.

                            So does he work for you and uploading your licensed content, work for Top Bucks and uploading their licensed content or neither

                            If Top Bucks are allowing this video on your site, where is the link to their site. And do they sell the license of their content to be used on Tube sites?



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                            • RycEric
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1313

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              So you own the licenses on videos not owned by you or your company? How the fuck would you know that until you get a DMCA pointing out otherwise? On content you say you own and uploaded by someone not connected to you or your company.

                              You could clear up a lot of doubt by making your uploaders of your licensed content upload under your companies name. Not a list of nick names that mean nothing.

                              Here's an interesting find. http://www.pornhub.com/users/bryanc

                              Joined: 1 year ago
                              Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                              Videos Watched: 94
                              People have watched bryanc videos: 17,797,701 times

                              He's got a whole load of Back Seat Bangers videos, owned by Top Buck, 23 full length scenes. Of the 1045 videos this guy uploaded.

                              So does he work for you and uploading your licensed content, work for Top Bucks and uploading their licensed content or neither

                              If Top Bucks are allowing this video on your site, where is the link to their site. And do they sell the license of their content to be used on Tube sites?
                              This was taken off another board:
                              "This is totally a non-event and nothing at all will come of it. No one (except maybe the FSC) can be so naive as to believe any of this. It's just an easy way for the Tubes to keep the wolves from their doors for a while longer.
                              I know 2 guys here in Montreal who's full-time job is to steal videos from websites and upload them as a user onto a few different Tube sites. They both have a large number of usernames to hide the fact that they are actually getting paid by the company. I won't name names, but it's easy to figure it all out.
                              I am actually sitting here, shaking my head, and the ridiculousness of that announcement. "

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                              • Nathan
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3108

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                DMCA does not say you have to allow a law breakers uploaded content to stay on your site. It says you can't select, there is no selection involved. The entire account is deleted, including all his uploaded content, for breaking the LAW. Not your TOS.



                                So now you can't say 100%. So what are the factors or/and certain circumstances that prohibit you from deleting a law breakers content?
                                Paul, look.. how ever much I would love to make you happy, I never can anyway. Even if we ran our tubes in a way which would make everyone here call them "legal tubes" (although they are perfectly legal already now) you would still complain. Just about something else. With some people here on GFY, its just a useless fight. I continue to reply to you still though since I even think you deserve answers...

                                But, please... Manwin is not some small 10 person shop... We are a company. A big one. We have rules and principles, we have guides to follow, and this kind of stuff is internals. I am not going to reveal all our business mechanics and internals to you just because you ask... If my answer is not enough for you, then I can not help you further, it is as much as I am happy and willing to give...
                                "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                                - Charlie Munger

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