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  • Paper_Amar
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2007
    • 2607

    #31
    Since you can subpoena ISPs for IPs and name/address of downloaders/Torrent guys/ Why cant the same be down for uploaders?
    My icq; 4 4 7 5 4 2 1 2 8
    Amar @ paper street cash .com

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    • DWB
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 31779

      #32
      Originally posted by Paper_Amar
      Since you can subpoena ISPs for IPs and name/address of downloaders/Torrent guys/ Why cant the same be down for uploaders?
      If I had a tube and had people uploading for me, I would not have them doing it from the office. I'd spread people out across the world to do it. India, Philippines, New Work, Texas, Canada, and so on. You would never get caught that way.

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #33
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Doing a little search and found this guy.

        http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

        This is his profile.

        * Joined: 4 days ago
        * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
        * Videos Watched: 226
        * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

        So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

        But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

        So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

        He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.
        The next time Fabian tells us he's not responsible for what happened before he bought the company and he's putting it right. Shove this down his throat. It happened on his watch and it's not the only one.



        Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
        PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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        • Jason Voorhees
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2010
          • 843

          #34
          Originally posted by V_RocKs
          All he has to do now...
          1) turn off all videos uploaded by this user.
          2) transfer his uploads to another house account.
          3) ban user.
          4) add new user to scheduled turn on script scheduled for 2 weeks from now.
          5) claim somebody uploaded 2000+ videos in 1 second.
          Or just rename the account and or ID number, create new account, change id number, ban that account. That's what I do.

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          • Carmen80
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2010
            • 207

            #35
            Long live the tubes!
            It's all just a strange dream..

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            • Nathan
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 3108

              #36
              DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
              "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
              - Charlie Munger

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              • Half man, Half Amazing
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2008
                • 372

                #37
                Originally posted by Nathan
                DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
                I don't think DMCA law protects a repeat offender who is in violation of your own TOS. That's a bullshit copout and YOU KNOW IT.

                That's like the cops saying...."yeah we know he stole this car, but we can't arrest him because he actually paid for the underwear he's wearing".

                They violated your own TOS. In your TOS you say you can delete their account. Just quit bullshitting us and tell us what you really want to say:

                "We don't want to delete the other videos that repeat offenders upload because we like having stolen content on our site to bring in traffic to justify our ad rates."
                Last edited by Half man, Half Amazing; 10-08-2010, 02:12 PM.
                Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                • tiger
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 6986

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  Then there is this guy. Anonymous0

                  * Joined: 1 year ago
                  * Last Login: 1 year ago
                  * Videos Watched: 0 (He didn't have the time or the speed to watch anything. LOL)
                  * People have watched Anonymous0 videos: 48,508,736 times

                  Public Videos (1205)

                  Yes 48 million views. on 1205 videos. And he joined a year ago and has not logged in for a year.

                  It will take someone with cash and balls to take Manwin to court and ask them to explain some of these uploaders.


                  Does it get more obvious than that. I'm sure this type of obvious stuff will be covered up very soon.

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                  • Nathan
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3108

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Half man, Half Amazing
                    I don't think DMCA law protects a repeat offender who is in violation of your own TOS. That's a bullshit copout and YOU KNOW IT.

                    That's like the cops saying...."yeah we know he stole this car, but we can't arrest him because he actually paid for the underwear he's wearing".

                    They violated your own TOS. In your TOS you say you can delete their account. Just quit bullshitting us and tell us what you really want to say:

                    "We don't want to delete the other videos that repeat offenders upload because we like having stolen content on our site to bring in traffic to justify our ad rates."
                    No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                    - Charlie Munger

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                    • Dirty Dane
                      Sick Fuck
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 9491

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nathan
                      No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                      So the rest of the movies stay public?

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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Nathan
                        DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
                        You created NATS and the best you can do is ban their email address? Honestly?

                        I would think you should check DMCA law about those other videos. If your user violated your TOS 7 times (from me alone) and did not have permission to load those videos, that leads me and everyone else, including you, to believe he is loading nothing but videos he does not have the right to load. You clearly did not buy the rights to those videos otherwise that would implicate him as someone who works for you. The studios did not give him permission to post them, because for starters, he stole mine, and if he was given access to 2300 videos to put up for free, he would not bother stealing a single one.

                        He has 2300+ videos and you want me to believe he as the rights to all of them, after he just got caught with mine?

                        He doesn't.

                        The sheer numbers of videos alone from a plethora of different studios, tells you, without a doubt, he does not own the rights to all of them. I can speak personally and say at least 7 of them were there without permission, and I'm just on page 12 out of 99 of his pages.

                        A note from the user, from his profile:

                        Originally posted by rampaux
                        Only the highest quality pussy on Spankwire! I've stopped uploading videos as of 3/13/2010...I've returned to uploading as of 4/6/2010...I've run out of videos to upload.
                        With the number of posts he has and the time joined, he has been uploading 3 videos per day, for two straight years. Odd huh?

                        I didn't really think this was going to go anywhere but I figured I would give it a shot so at least I would know without a shadow of a doubt, that what I believed to be true, was true. Thanks for replying and removing the new videos in question, even if temporarily.

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                        • Nathan
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3108

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                          So the rest of the movies stay public?
                          I can not say 100%, since it depends on many factors, but usually they would remain public. Under certain circumstances they all get removed.
                          "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                          - Charlie Munger

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                          • Nathan
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3108

                            #43
                            Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                            You created NATS and the best you can do is ban their email address? Honestly?

                            I would think you should check DMCA law about those other videos. If your user violated your TOS 7 times (from me alone) and did not have permission to load those videos, that leads me and everyone else, including you, to believe he is loading nothing but videos he does not have the right to load. You clearly did not buy the rights to those videos otherwise that would implicate him as someone who works for you. The studios did not give him permission to post them, because for starters, he stole mine, and if he was given access to 2300 videos to put up for free, he would not bother stealing a single one.

                            He has 2300+ videos and you want me to believe he as the rights to all of them, after he just got caught with mine?

                            He doesn't.

                            The sheer numbers of videos alone from a plethora of different studios, tells you, without a doubt, he does not own the rights to all of them. I can speak personally and say at least 7 of them were there without permission, and I'm just on page 12 out of 99 of his pages.

                            A note from the user, from his profile:



                            With the number of posts he has and the time joined, he has been uploading 3 videos per day, for two straight years. Odd huh?

                            I didn't really think this was going to go anywhere but I figured I would give it a shot so at least I would know without a shadow of a doubt, that what I believed to be true, was true. Thanks for replying and removing the new videos in question, even if temporarily.
                            DWB, this has nothing to do with a technical issue. And I am not a programmer anymore, I stopped programming over 3 years ago.

                            Why is that odd? There are a ton of people like that on YouTube also, those are not odd supposedly?

                            Sorry, but a copyrighted video is not automatically infringing. Far from it actually.
                            "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                            - Charlie Munger

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                            • DWB
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 31779

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Nathan
                              No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                              Actually, it's 7 infringing videos and I stopped when I was on page 12 out of 99. Will look through the rest tomorrow, but I do know for a fact this user does not have the rights to 2300+ videos. Every page of the 12 was full of DVD scenes I know from other studios.

                              You can't say you bought the rights to those video because that would connect him to your company. He sure as hell didn't buy the rights to them just to give them away for free, and why steal any if you have 2300 legal ones?

                              Use your head. In this case, it is a no brainier those videos are not supposed to be there. To think they do, for any reason, says you are being negligent.

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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                You can't say you bought the rights to those video because that would connect him to your company. He sure as hell didn't buy the rights to them just to give them away for free, and why steal any if you have 2300 legal ones?
                                .
                                BAM! Check Mate!
                                -Robbie
                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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