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Chris 10-07-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17584342)
that actually only says that the guy is the president. doesn't say anything else. come on now. we aren't dumb.

You are more than welcome to email or icq any paxum person and get questions to whatever you want

i 10000000% understand people being wary of who they send money to. I fully expect serious webmasters to do their homework on who is running the company and their history within the industry. All of that has been addressed multiple times her on gfy by Octav (gfy username search paxum to see your self ) aswell as other webmasters who have done their own research :)

Even a webmaster who at first doubted us set up a meeting with Octav to meet face to face :)

Heck paxum is even send you your mastercard without you even having to load any money into your account :)

stocktrader23 10-07-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17584328)
Will , in the paxum "launch" thread that was addressed many times - I dont think you where around when paxum launched - you came in almost a week later with your questions that where already answered 5x over.

Do your penis pills really work?

Chris 10-07-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17584379)
Do your penis pills really work?

email me your address and ill send you some [email protected] :thumbsup

stocktrader23 10-07-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17584468)
email me your address and ill send you some [email protected] :thumbsup

No thanks. I think I remember you swearing up and down that they work long ago but I was too lazy to search.

sandman! 10-07-2010 12:01 PM

i remember doing biz with Octav back in 2000/2001 never heard of his screwing anyone.

will76 10-07-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17584054)
yeah i dont see the big problem.. some of you are acting like little bitches... if u dont trust them then withdraw all ur shit daily.. its a fucking $2,500 daily limit.. i doubt 99% of u here make more than that a day..

fuck i would use a nigerian bank if they had a $2.5k daily atm.. i'll just make sure to keep $0 cash there at all times

that just shows your intelligence (and that you make a lot less than $2,500 a pay period.)

Making $2,500 a day is irrelevant. Sponsors don't pay out daily, some pay out once a week, some bi weekly. If someone makes $10,000 a pay period then its going to take them 4 days to get the money out. Also, there is "in between time" from when the sponsor transfers you the money and you can run to the bank to withdraw. NOt everyone can run to an atm the second the money hits their account.

Didn't you noticed what had happened with epassporte???? When they froze the wallet/VV it was right at the exact time that a lot of sponsors transferred money to epass to make payments to their affiliates but hadn't distributed the payments yet. So the money got caught in limbo... (likely on purpose).

If you want to deal with a Nigerian bank, good luck with that lol :upsidedow

will76 10-07-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17584328)
Will , in the paxum "launch" thread that was addressed many times - I dont think you where around when paxum launched - you came in almost a week later with your questions that where already answered 5x over.

that is bullshit for two reasons. 1. I believe I posted in the thread you are talking about and the answers came out days later. 2. If the information was public prior to me asking then why didn't Octav just post it again. It makes no fucking sense, he could have said " oh you want a physical address, sure np it is xxxxx, and yes I am the owner". BUT NOOOOOOO he instead avoided the question and went on and on and on with terrible analogies and reasons why he didn't want to give a physical address. One such reason being their association with porn and not wanting to have religious nuts going to their office.

So if this information was given out before, they why did he continue to make up excuses why he didn't want to give the information??

You people are something else, it is so fucking clear what happened but you keep trying to twist it around and say the information was already available. IF so ( i know it wasn't) someone should have told Octav, because he was the one that kept refusing to disclose the info, which is who I kept replying to asking him why.

Rui 10-07-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17583669)
bingo. asked this yesterday and got cold shouldered.

fuck if i would sign up with yet another payout processor that is being hyped and marketed as "industry veterans" behind it without doing an NSA level background checking of whoever it is.

those days are done.

watching all these payment company vultures run around here like it's christmas is comical to say the least. what's even funnier is watching all the idiots who got burned starting threads and telling sponsors to sign up with whichever one they were stupid enough to get a card from.

it's like watching the whole life cycle start over again.

so bizarre.

Right on...

The abused housewife syndrome or plain stupidity..

Cheap 10-07-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LongBG (Post 17583775)
Some guy who seems know nothing about money business and want us to put money in him.

Company dont want to tell us address and if we want to visit we will see only UPS box.

I think should be trusted with our money :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Try to find anything about paxum on this board! You are fucking lazy to do it:winkwink:

will76 10-07-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17584342)
that actually only says that the guy is the president. doesn't say anything else.

edit: some people are dumb.

exactly, the canada company data base or what ever that is list Octav as the "president".


9/22:
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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17526217)
September 22st, 2010
Paxum Inc., a Canadian Company, founded on July 30th, 2007 has been developed by longtime industry webmasters and backed by private investors

9/22:
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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17526383)
Paxum is a private company owned by a Canadian group of investors and is run by Octav Moise as president.

9/29:
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Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17550312)
Hi, Octav here president of Paxum, I would like to say a big HELLO first to everybody and thank you for your questions, suggestions and feedback.

10/4 : Kenny B meets with Octav and then posts the following:

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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 17569756)
Octav is not an owner from what I understand, I am hoping to meet one of the owners in the next week or so at his office.
I did not get a physical address... yes I asked he did not want people popping in.


10/5: the first time that Octav or any of his sig whores refer to Octav as an owner:
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Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17575253)
I am the president, Octav Moise and I am also the owner .

9/29: why he wont give a physical address:

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Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17550338)
....we are associated with porn and there are a lot of crazy people out there that will jump on the occasion to preach you that porn is not good or even worse get violent with any of our employees. And the final reason is that we don't want people walking in with any kind of problem or issue if that can be the case when everything is done and logged online through our system....

10/1:
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Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17561526)
Yes we have an office, we simply don't advertise the address, as explained above that is in part to protect the security of those employees who work there but are not trained in any way to deal with the public.

10/2: more excuses why they wont disclose a physical address:
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Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17562215)
Paxum has several small offices in different countries, some our own offices other from subcontractors of ours. We are a virtual company with people working from everywhere in the world and we don't impose to anybody a 9-5pm job. The office in Montreal that you are asking was decided not to be advertised as there is nothing to see and no walk in .

- An address (to their penis pill store) was finally found and posted by someone.



THere is your time line, feel free to bullshit all you want that this information was given from day 1. In fact it didn't come out to several days after them avoiding the questions.

CYF 10-07-2010 05:00 PM

50 silent partners

BJ 10-07-2010 05:38 PM

It is probably the penis pill address. Back when I sold penis pills, I never listed the address on the packages, and I blocked orders withinn a 100 mile radius of our warehouse. Last thing I needed (and it happened) was pissed off people with small weiners showing up at my office:)

TisMe 10-07-2010 05:59 PM

Everyone knew who was behind Epassporte.

How'd that work out for you?

If you don't like Paxum's disclosure level don't use them.

Its as simple as that.

gleem 10-07-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 17585832)
Everyone knew who was behind Epassporte.

How'd that work out for you?

If you don't like Paxum's disclosure level don't use them.

Its as simple as that.

Bingo, thread over. :thumbsup

will76 10-07-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 17585832)
Everyone knew who was behind Epassporte.

How'd that work out for you?

If you don't like Paxum's disclosure level don't use them.

Its as simple as that.


you people really really miss the big picture. Did knowing who was behind epass help everyone get their money back, no... but

You have to look at things from a risk stand point. Generally speaking, a company that doesn't want to give out a lot of information, such who owns it, where it is located etc... makes the level of risk go up that much higher vs a company who is willing to give you the same information. Simply put, if a company doesn't want to disclose who owns it, then how hard is it going to be for them to close up shop, keep your money, reopen another company in the future, do it all over again.

Besides the obvious facts of once you know who owns it you can check their past history to see if it is someone worth dealing with, if they are willing to put their name out there and stand behind their product I would be willing to bet they will try a lot harder to keep things going, especially when there is problems vs a company that you have no idea who owns it just simply saying, "fuck it, lets close up, who's is going to come after us or bad mouth us, no one knows who we are".

There is no way to avoid risk when another company handles your money, all you can do is try to get as much information as you can to asses your risk and try to reduce it as much as possible. When a company is secretive and not forthcoming with basic information, that should set off red flags and make your risk meter go up!!

don't think like a simpleton "well what good did it do us for epass" use your noggin and try to look at this from a rational, business decision making process.

Dreamteam 10-07-2010 06:33 PM

will76 .. just drop it man. You've made your point.
You don't want to use paxum? Great then don't.

We are old and wise enough.

will76 10-07-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ (Post 17585776)
It is probably the penis pill address. Back when I sold penis pills, I never listed the address on the packages, and I blocked orders withinn a 100 mile radius of our warehouse. Last thing I needed (and it happened) was pissed off people with small weiners showing up at my office:)

yes the only physical address given (so far) is the penis pill address.

will76 10-07-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17585902)
will76 .. just drop it man. You've made your point.
You don't want to use paxum? Great then don't.

We are old and wise enough.

im going to post 10x more now that I know it pisses you off :1orglaugh :thumbsup

uglyduckling 10-07-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17585909)
im going to post 10x more now that I know it pisses you off :1orglaugh :thumbsup

since you are on a roll can you ask them here or elsewhere what their wallet will be like....if they have one would it be set up kind of like this....


https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=991050

TisMe 10-07-2010 06:51 PM

Please Will, don't lecture me about business.

Pick a topic you know something about instead, like blustering on a message board while accomplishing nada.

Dreamteam 10-07-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17585909)
im going to post 10x more now that I know it pisses you off :1orglaugh :thumbsup

It does not piss me off at all.
Do whatever you want man. I realy don't care.

:1orglaugh

will76 10-07-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17585953)
It does not piss me off at all.
Do whatever you want man. I realy don't care.

:1orglaugh

you don't care, every other post you make to me is trying to instruct me on how I should be posting on GFY... if you haven't figured out by now, I don't care what you or any one thinks. but thanks for you concern.


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