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    Google destroys advantage of KEYWORD DOMAINS? (video)

    Another week, another funky Matt Cutts video. In this video he tackles the question of "Is there an SEO advantage to registering domains that have your keywords?"



    Now if you are still on the fence, let me just give you a bit of color. that we have looked at the rankings and the weights that we give to keyword domains, & some people have complained that we are giving a little too much weight for keywords in domains. So we have been thinking about at adjusting that mix a bit and sort of turning the knob down within the algorithm, so that given 2 different domains it wouldn?t necessarily help you as much to have a domain name with a bunch of keywords in it. ? Matt Cutts
    This might get people to get up and exert a little bit of extra effort in optimizing pages on keyword domain sites instead of just letting the domain do the heavy lifting.

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    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
      (felis madjewicus)
      • Jul 2006
      • 20368
      #2
      Smells like Matt Cutts is baking a loaf of sourdough again...

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        • marketsmart
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          • Dec 2004
          • 20419
          #3
          Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
          Smells like Matt Cutts is baking a loaf of sourdough again...
          nope... i am already seeing this happen...

          google is def getting serious about stopping spammers...





          .

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            • CYF
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              Originally posted by marketsmart
              google is def getting serious about stopping spammers...
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                • FlexxAeon
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                  • May 2003
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                  how much is 'a bunch?'
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                      Originally posted by marketsmart
                      nope... i am already seeing this happen...

                      google is def getting serious about stopping spammers...





                      .
                      A somber plaintive cry might be heard from .info land?

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                        • VikingMan
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                          • Jan 2008
                          • 6873
                          #7
                          fuck fuck fuck fucking fuck. But I was expecting this and have been mainly buying brandable names the past few months.
                          Last edited by VikingMan; 03-16-2011, 08:54 PM.

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                            • Jakez
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              #8
                              If you have thelatestmusic.com and it's all about indie music and has the most traffic, backlinks, etc. in the indie music genre, I don't think you need to worry about indiemusic.com with their 3,000 daily hits grabbing your spot.

                              Edit: I totally went in the wrong direction with my point. But fuck it lol.
                              Last edited by Jakez; 03-16-2011, 08:59 PM.
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                                • BJ
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                                  • Mar 2002
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                                  #9
                                  I decided to take the long road with my online store, choosing branding over a domain with my keywords. I was using the theory that as long as I am working everyday, building quality links etc in the end I will outrank my competitors. 6 months in, Im almost there.

                                  Why should the domain matter anyways? Its the content, the user experience, and relevancy that should matter right?

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                                    • Serge Litehead
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                                      • Dec 2002
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                                      #10
                                      good direction

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                                        • GAMEFINEST
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                                          ah fuck...
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                                                • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                  • 20368
                                                  #13
                                                  Google's Minister of Propaganda spewing some creative word play "we have looked at", "we've been thinking about", "wouldn't necessarily help as much". Then some blathering on about the benefits of brandability that everyone knows already. As far as I can tell, he spent 3:03 saying absolutely fucking nothing in that video. Nowhere does he say they actually have done anything beyond considering, nor does he say anything about destroying or nullifying the metric in the algorithm. At most he said "we've considered turning it down a little bit". I wouldn't expect keyword domains to lose their value any time soon. At least not to anyone who has a well rounded SEO game anyways. Otherwise I'm aiming to rank nigggerdick.com for "easter bunny" before the holiday season rolls around...
                                                  Last edited by Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life; 03-16-2011, 09:22 PM.

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                                                    • roganoli
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                                                      #14
                                                      Finally...

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                                                        • tabasco
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                                                          #15
                                                          Google the king of "links pulled!"
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                                              Google's Minister of Propaganda spewing some creative word play "we have looked at", "we've been thinking about", "wouldn't necessarily help as much". Then some blathering on about the benefits of brandability that everyone knows already. As far as I can tell, he spent 3:03 saying absolutely fucking nothing in that video. Nowhere does he say they actually have done anything beyond considering, nor does he say anything about destroying or nullifying the metric in the algorithm. At most he said "we've considered turning it down a little bit". I wouldn't expect keyword domains to lose their value any time soon. At least not to anyone who has a well rounded SEO game anyways. Otherwise I'm aiming to rank nigggerdick.com for "easter bunny" before the holiday season rolls around...
                                                              He talks like a politician for 1 purpose only--it gives big G an escape hatch. It's also quite obvious that socialized (not caffeine type updates but full on socialized domain ignore feedback mechanisms) feedback may factor in G SERP results in the near future. I wonder how he'll spin that one.

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                                                                • cykoe6
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                                                                  Christ fuck almighty..... lately it seems like the big G is on a mission to destroy me personally. Fuck.
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                                                                        • cherrylula
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                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 15969
                                                                          #19
                                                                          yeah I am working on traffic to a mainstream domain right now, and while it has started getting hits for searches of the domain name (variations of the two words), I wish the other kw hits would start coming in.

                                                                          So this is what he is talking about... nice.

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                                                                            • czarina
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                                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              I'm getting soooo tired of google

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                                                                                • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                  #21
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                                                                                    • Davy
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Good news, because I used the brandable domain name in favor of the keyword name for most of my sites.
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                                                                                        • Adam_M
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                                                                                          Build a quality product and you will do well, build a crap site and focus everything on how to trick Google and you will get what you deserve
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Davy
                                                                                              Good news, because I used the brandable domain name in favor of the keyword name for most of my sites.
                                                                                              True. Focus on quality content and fostering user loyalty.

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                                                                                                • Pipecrew
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 14888
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                  True. Focus on quality content and fostering user loyalty.
                                                                                                  I have a quality site and was number 2 in google for the keyword that my domain was. All of a sudden, boom number 8. I think it will Change because all crap spammy sites are now 2-7

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                                                                                                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                      • 20368
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                                      I have a quality site and was number 2 in google for the keyword that my domain was. All of a sudden, boom number 8. I think it will Change because all crap spammy sites are now 2-7
                                                                                                      Liar. Matt Cutts has clearly stated that Google is stopping spammy sites. Keyword domains are worthless now, you only have one direction to move, and that is down...

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                                                                                                        • Kelli58
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          You guys obviously didn't watch the same video as me.

                                                                                                          He said "it is defiantly possible to rank without keyword domains." Think carefully about his words. To me he is basically saying that while Google prefers branded domain names and that end users will probably like your site better and remember it more with a brandable domain name.

                                                                                                          We have been THINKING about turning the knob down on that algorithm. Didn't say they were going to or that they have, but they were THINKING about it.

                                                                                                          So really what did Google destroy? Nothing. They put a lot of mis-information out there all the time and this is just another perfect example of that.

                                                                                                          In short they want us to use real domains. Great. But it doesn't change the fact that having a keyword stuffed domain name helps with rankings.
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                                                                                                            • Agent 488
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2006
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              he said:

                                                                                                              you don`t need a em domain to rank.

                                                                                                              and they were THINKING about adjusting the weight for em domains.

                                                                                                              another spamalicious thread that has nothing to do with the actual content posted in order to get views.

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                                                                                                                • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  It's Matt Cutts job to continuously confuse the fuck out of the SEO community. Why anyone listens to the shit he spouts, or how they take things he says so literally is beyond me. You're almost better off to pretend he doesn't even exist. Telling the webmaster community that keyword domains aren't going to help anymore is probably just as effective for Google at this point than actually making them less effective, lol...
                                                                                                                  Last edited by Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life; 03-17-2011, 02:55 PM.

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                                                                                                                    • Bladewire
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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                                      All I can think of is how different he looks now that he's lost all that weight


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                                                                                                                        • d-null
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                                                                                                                          • Apr 2007
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          a few quick searches shows that he is still full of shit on this, I hope they do make the changes but right now most of the top few pages of most searches are still weighted heavily toward keyword domains

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                                                                                                                            • iamtam
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              matt cutts laughs at all of you seo people shitting your pants every time he says something. he just baits you to watch you panic.

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                                                                                                                                • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Adam_M
                                                                                                                                  Build a quality product and you will do well, build a crap site and focus everything on how to trick Google and you will get what you deserve


                                                                                                                                  Most people will still try to bullshit their way to the top though.
                                                                                                                                  It's all they know.

                                                                                                                                  More sites have been ruined by SEO than made successful.
                                                                                                                                  Good luck.



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                                                                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Keep on believing MC, please. Makes it easier for the rest of us.

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                                                                                                                                        • GARY LEE
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                                                                                                                                          Matt Cutts is being paid by one of the wealthiest internet companies in the world to make sure that SEO "experts" can not figure out exactly how to manipulate search engines, mainly google. He may throw out a little rib bone but the profitablility of his company will make sure no one get's the whole cow.
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                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                              Keep on believing MC, please. Makes it easier for the rest of us.
                                                                                                                                              +1

                                                                                                                                              mc keeps spreading lies that we should build sites with original content and dont think of offsite seo i.e. spamming .
                                                                                                                                              internet will die.

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                                                                                                                                                • fatfoo
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                                                                                                                                                  This speech is very useful. He talks about how it also makes sense to use keywords as you link to something.
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                                                                                                                                                                      If you own bigtits.com and want to rank for "big tits" bigtits.com is still the best domain to have. Maybe they will turn the weight down a notch but starting out there is no better domain you can have than the exact keyword .com if you want to rank for that term. hyphened .info domains is a different matter

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Miz_Wright
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                                                                                                                                                                          The SEO arguments crack me up every time. Half the world thinks the sun rises and sets on it, the other half thinks it's a disaster because of threads like this and the "how can I make it work for me" game that gets played.

                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe spend less time worrying about what Google's doing in their backend, and more about building sites and content people want, and it will come. That's the shortest version of it all and Google's main driver: deliver content that its users want.

                                                                                                                                                                          Not what webmasters think is cool, not ways around the system - just make quality and work on taking care of the users you have and those you get.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Miz_Wright
                                                                                                                                                                              The SEO arguments crack me up every time. Half the world thinks the sun rises and sets on it, the other half thinks it's a disaster because of threads like this and the "how can I make it work for me" game that gets played.

                                                                                                                                                                              Maybe spend less time worrying about what Google's doing in their backend, and more about building sites and content people want, and it will come. That's the shortest version of it all and Google's main driver: deliver content that its users want.

                                                                                                                                                                              Not what webmasters think is cool, not ways around the system - just make quality and work on taking care of the users you have and those you get.
                                                                                                                                                                              ok go ahead and crack the top ten for "porn" with quality alone and see how far that gets you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Miz_Wright
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                                                                                                                                                  ok go ahead and crack the top ten for "porn" with quality alone and see how far that gets you.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Attrition sucks, but it's a necessary part of life. Entropy happens for a reason.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Miz_Wright
                                                                                                                                                                                      Attrition sucks, but it's a necessary part of life. Entropy happens for a reason.
                                                                                                                                                                                      what does that even mean in this context?

                                                                                                                                                                                      i'm saying that for competitive terms and traffic quality only gets you so far.

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