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Old 10-07-2010, 01:02 AM   #1
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First Epass Alternative To FAIL?

What's your pick, which payment option of these five do you think will be the first to fail? Tell us why.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:26 AM   #2
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I really hope non of them. I'm moving back to standard checks. Stable way of getting my money.
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I think Paxum, but I will use only checks and wires in the next future.
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I've used alertpay for quite a while now, hopefully not them.
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If I used wires for my cash since lets say 2006 I'd be out about $40 x 10 sponsors x 12 months x 4.5 years.

That is $21,600 and is FAR LESS than what I lost in ePassporte. Of course I probably paid about $3240 or so in ATM fees by using ePassporte. Still, I made out like a bandit!

I cannot wait to use Paxum as it seems to be the closest to ePassporte and I don't have to pay a monthly fee. I will also be able to withdrawal far more money per transaction and per day.

All win-win!
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:53 AM   #7
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I cannot wait to use Paxum as it seems to be the closest to ePassporte and I don't have to pay a monthly fee. I will also be able to withdrawal far more money per transaction and per day.

All win-win!
Paxum is not the only alternative with p2p like epass and no monthly card fees FYI, that's why I list a few similar to epass services. Other have even lower fees, no monthly fee and card is free and even p2p is free.
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Stupid poll, I would vote "Fuck Off" if there was an option...
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I chose vote on Paxum fail.

They look like dont even know what they getting into.
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I chose vote on Paxum fail.

They look like dont even know what they getting into.
LOL see my sig.
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AlertPay shouldn't even be in the list

1. They don't issue motherfucking debit cards
2. They're not going anywhere...
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:53 AM   #13
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Paxum is not the only alternative with p2p like epass and no monthly card fees FYI, that's why I list a few similar to epass services. Other have even lower fees, no monthly fee and card is free and even p2p is free.
Excuse me? Which company has lower fees than Paxum?
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:55 AM   #14
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I really hope non of them. I'm moving back to standard checks. Stable way of getting my money.
Checks are not "stable" with AwEmpire.com affiliates... they "lost" my first one!
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Stupid poll, I would vote "Fuck Off" if there was an option...
agreed, only an idiot can post something like that at this time
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Paxum is not the only alternative with p2p like epass and no monthly card fees FYI, that's why I list a few similar to epass services. Other have even lower fees, no monthly fee and card is free and even p2p is free.
really? enlighten me please which have p2p besides paxum?
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really? enlighten me please which have p2p besides paxum?
Cashx have free card, no yearly fee for card, no p2p cost to send and recieve funds. Here their fees:

https://www.cashx.com/fees
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really? enlighten me please which have p2p besides paxum?
OKPAY and CashX.
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Cashx have free card, no yearly fee for card, no p2p cost to send and recieve funds. Here their fees:

https://www.cashx.com/fees
Excuse me, are you fucking blind or what?
https://www.cashx.com/prepaidCards
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Transaction Type Services Fees
New account setup fee $2.00
Monthly service fee $2.95
First new account load fee $1.00
ATM withdrawal $3.95
Non-ATM cash withdrawal $10.00
PIN or signature transaction at POS $1.25
Internet transaction $1.25
ATM balance inquiry $1.95
Currency conversion 1.50%
Maintenance per inactive account (after 6mths) $5.00
Replacement card / account $15.00
Balance check request $25.00
Self Internet customer service $0.00
IVR usage $1.00
Live customer service (per call) $2.50
Paper monthly statement n/a
Closed account $4.99

Card Limits Card Limits
ATM daily withdrawals maximum $500.00
POS Daily withdrawals maximum Card Max.
Account Loading/Funding Maximum $2,500.00
Account Balance Maximum $2,500.00
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Also check the real info on different account fees and stop talking bullshit already:
https://www.cashx.com/accounts
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Excuse me, are you fucking blind or what?
https://www.cashx.com/prepaidCards
Why are you so upset? Are you working for paxum? Just put me on ignore if you have a problem with me. I don't know what's your beef is nor do I give a shit. I'm sure people who support paxum will bash me for this because they don't like the poll results.

The owner of cashx can verify if they charge a monthly fee or not, but I think it free. Even if it isn't why are you so stupid and do your math first before posting:

Paxum charge fee: Prepaid card Account Maintenance (paid yearly) $44.95

Cashx monthly fee: $2.95 x12 = $35.4/year


Nice try... You FAILED now see my siggy!
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Cashx have free card, no yearly fee for card, no p2p cost to send and recieve funds. Here their fees:

https://www.cashx.com/fees
Thing is... With CashX they wont tell you straight up about their cards. They tell you to contact them per email so they can give you the rundown of cards available. That leads me to believe the advertised CashX card they say is issued from a bank in California is limited to US citizens only and is in fact a crippled travel card. Correct me if I am wrong but I do not think US banks are allowed to issue cards to non US citizens or landed immigrants.

Other than that I don't have anything against CashX.
In fact I want as many as possible to succeed so there can be some real competition and a real choice. Therefor I think this thread is useless.
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Thing is... With CashX they wont tell you straight up about their cards. They tell you to contact them per email so they can give you the rundown of cards available. That leads me to believe the advertised CashX card they say is issued from a bank in California is limited to US citizens only and is in fact a crippled travel card. Correct me if I am wrong but I do not think US banks are allowed to issue cards to non US citizens or landed immigrants.

Other than that I don't have anything against CashX.
In fact I want as many as possible to succeed so there can be some real competition and a real choice. Therefor I think this thread is useless.
Right another Paxum supporter trying to bash me for not liking this thread result. Useless or not go away if it bother you. Don't go away mad, just go away.

You have a right to your opinion that paxum is the best fine, other people have a right to their opinion too. So if you don't like it then go away, don't go away mad.

People already seen enough brickering with other paxum threads so I don't want to make this one into another bickering thread. Just let people have their own opinion and leave it alone if you have problem please. The more you guys pop in the worst it look for paxum.

P.S. regarding your other questions, the cashx rep can come and response, it not my business.

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Right another Paxum supporter trying to bash me for not liking this thread result. Useless or not go away if it bother you. Don't go away mad, just go away.

You have a right to your opinion that paxum is the best fine, other people have a right to their opinion too. So if you don't like it then go away, don't go away mad.

People already seen enough brickering with other paxum threads so I don't want to make this one into another bickering thread. Just let people have their own opinion and leave it alone if you have problem please. The more you guys pop in the worst it look for paxum.
Wow, where did I bash you?
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Based on who they hired to troll the boards, Paxum.
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What previously failed projects?
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Thing is... With CashX they wont tell you straight up about their cards. They tell you to contact them per email so they can give you the rundown of cards available. That leads me to believe the advertised CashX card they say is issued from a bank in California is limited to US citizens only and is in fact a crippled travel card. Correct me if I am wrong but I do not think US banks are allowed to issue cards to non US citizens or landed immigrants.

Other than that I don't have anything against CashX.
In fact I want as many as possible to succeed so there can be some real competition and a real choice. Therefor I think this thread is useless.
willwank Hi.

I'm not quite sure how you came to any conclusion that we won't tell people straight up about anything.

I have asked people to e-mail me with their card needs sure. Simply to get more of a feel
for what you guys want / need

Our advertised mastercard is in fact issued from a US bank and is available to everyone not just US citizens. To clear that one up for you.

Feel free to shoot me an e-mail any time willwank. I'll be happy to entertain your questions any time to prevent any confusion.
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willwank Hi.

I'm not quite sure how you came to any conclusion that we won't tell people straight up about anything.

I have asked people to e-mail me with their card needs sure. Simply to get more of a feel
for what you guys want / need

Our advertised mastercard is in fact issued from a US bank and is available to everyone not just US citizens. To clear that one up for you.

Feel free to shoot me an e-mail any time willwank. I'll be happy to entertain your questions any time to prevent any confusion.
Question: WHY ARE YOUR FEES SO GOD DAMNED HIGH?
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willwank Hi.

I'm not quite sure how you came to any conclusion that we won't tell people straight up about anything.

I have asked people to e-mail me with their card needs sure. Simply to get more of a feel
for what you guys want / need

Our advertised mastercard is in fact issued from a US bank and is available to everyone not just US citizens. To clear that one up for you.

Feel free to shoot me an e-mail any time willwank. I'll be happy to entertain your questions any time to prevent any confusion.
I asked earlier about your advertised card and the answer I got was to e-mail you guys with my needs.

Since you have a US financial institution issuing Mastercards to anyone around the globe I have to ask what kind of a card this is? What kinds of electronic limitations are built into this advertised card? And how long will MC allow this? Wasn't this the exact reason Payoneer dropped their existing US based bank and switched to Choice? Not trying to bash anyone, just looking for answers.
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willwank Hi.

I'm not quite sure how you came to any conclusion that we won't tell people straight up about anything.

I have asked people to e-mail me with their card needs sure. Simply to get more of a feel
for what you guys want / need

Our advertised mastercard is in fact issued from a US bank and is available to everyone not just US citizens. To clear that one up for you.

Feel free to shoot me an e-mail any time willwank. I'll be happy to entertain your questions any time to prevent any confusion.
Do you know cashx breaking moneybookers tos?
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Question: WHY ARE YOUR FEES SO GOD DAMNED HIGH?
CashX fees may seem high, but we make up for it in other areas.

Also, we're not a new company that is about to up and leave.

When things are done correctly and by the book they cost money
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Cashx have free card, no yearly fee for card, no p2p cost to send and recieve funds. Here their fees:

https://www.cashx.com/fees
Fees not bad - 3.95$ debit card withdrawal fee, better than 2-3% but still more than Paxum (2$)

If you look here though - https://www.cashx.com/withdrawalInfo CashX Prepaid Card $3.95 1 business day

1 business day to withdraw from debit card? that part threw me off...
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at the end of the day you have to ask yourself which one of these services has FDIC insured funds.

there would be your answer?

hey chronig? did you see this. i did all this awesome punctuation purposely for you?

HHAAHA

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All we need is Alternative company who will give us secure that our funds r safe and will garant for some sum of money.
Fast acces to ATM and bank account would be also needed.
Not sure for fees but that have to be something semilar to Epass fees.
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Also, we're not a new company that is about to up and leave.
How long have you been around? Pardon my ignorance, but I only heard of CashX after epass went down.
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All we need is Alternative company who will give us secure that our funds r safe and will garant for some sum of money.
Fast acces to ATM and bank account would be also needed.
Not sure for fees but that have to be something semilar to Epass fees.
epassporte did that.

"you're funds are safe and secure."

i believe they were also in motion too. somewhere.
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yep Epass did.banking managment request knowledge of banking and professionalism.
probably they didnt stick to the contract or any agrement they have made with the bank.
Maybe some company will steep up and give some garant to at least $1000 insurence for users.
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at the end of the day you have to ask yourself which one of these services has FDIC insured funds.

there would be your answer?

hey chronig? did you see this. i did all this awesome punctuation purposely for you?

HHAAHA
EMC2 Payouts is a registered IPSP with Bank of America, so the funds are FDIC insured.
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really? enlighten me please which have p2p besides paxum?
EMC2 Payouts has p2p as well. http://www.emc2payouts.com
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:28 PM   #45
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EMC2 Payouts has p2p as well. http://www.emc2payouts.com
Not bad. And they got an A- from BBB. How long have they been in biz if you know?
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:35 PM   #46
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Not bad. And they got an A- from BBB. How long have they been in biz if you know?
EMC2 Billing has been in the adult industry for over 15 years. We recently teamed up with I Payout Systems to bring this payout platform into the adult space, but it has been around in the mainstream industry for 5 years.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:55 PM   #47
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EMC2 Billing has been in the adult industry for over 15 years. We recently teamed up with I Payout Systems to bring this payout platform into the adult space, but it has been around in the mainstream industry for 5 years.
Wow that's surprising. I didn't know they have been in adult that long, but I never heard of them till a few days ago. Anyway best of luck!
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:56 PM   #48
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EMC2 Billing has been in the adult industry for over 15 years. We recently teamed up with I Payout Systems to bring this payout platform into the adult space, but it has been around in the mainstream industry for 5 years.
no debit card? No use.
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:24 PM   #49
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no debit card? No use.
With EMC/I Payout you can actually sign up for a card. That is just one of the many options the webmaster can choose in addition to check, wire, deposit into your bank account worldwide, adding funds to an existing credit card, etc.
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I asked earlier about your advertised card and the answer I got was to e-mail you guys with my needs.

Since you have a US financial institution issuing Mastercards to anyone around the globe I have to ask what kind of a card this is? What kinds of electronic limitations are built into this advertised card? And how long will MC allow this? Wasn't this the exact reason Payoneer dropped their existing US based bank and switched to Choice? Not trying to bash anyone, just looking for answers.
they addressed this in several other threads. Since it is so important to you then you should go do a search and find their answers...


just thought you would like a little dose of you to see how it feels lol.
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