How many sponsors do you think will use this epass debacle as an excuse not to pay affiliates... - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 10-05-2010, 06:39 PM

I am already seeing some shady practices.

As a program owner, I can see the turmoil shit like this creates, but as a jaded affiliate - I can smell the bullshit from a mile away...

fatfoo · 10-05-2010, 06:48 PM

Most sponsors pay through other ways than Epassporte. More than 80% of sponsors should have other payment methods than Epassporte, shouldn't they?

Stef. · 10-05-2010, 06:50 PM

If a sponsor you are using did not already stated his position regarding the epassporte shit, it smell bullshit anyway... don't you think?
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xxxjay · 10-05-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo

Most sponsors pay through other ways than Epassporte. More than 80% of sponsors should have other payment methods than Epassporte, shouldn't they?

Yup, it's called a check and it's what should be mailed to you by default in lieu of Epass.

I can see the frustration this will cause foreign webmasters.

I wish paypal and adult wasn't so shady.

WarChild · 10-05-2010, 06:53 PM

One major company which I won't name was supposed to pay right before the epassporte visa shit happened. They didn't make the transfer to affiliates and instead requested their funding wire back. Affiliates apparently have to wait for them to get that money back from Epassporte before they will pay their affiliates for that period. All periods after that have been paid by other methods no problem.

Now I've been told that it's the risk we take for being paid on epassporte. My position is that would be true had the money been transfered to MY wallet. If it had have been transfered, I'd have had credit card and ACH access to it for at least a little while. As it turns out by them taking action to safe guard my payment, I have so far ended up with no payment at all. In my mind that makes it the risk that THEY took in offering epassporte payouts. It would be MY risk if the money were stuck in my wallet.

I think that's kind of a fuck over personally. Anyone else?

fris · 10-05-2010, 06:57 PM

probably the same type of people that did it with the webmaster checks bs

RyuLion · 10-05-2010, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I am already seeing some shady practices.

As a program owner, I can see the turmoil shit like this creates, but as a jaded affiliate - I can smell the bullshit from a mile away...

You and I both, I've seen too much of the same shit all these years..

SomeCreep · 10-05-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I am already seeing some shady practices.

As a program owner, I can see the turmoil shit like this creates, but as a jaded affiliate - I can smell the bullshit from a mile away...

As am I. For "big" affiliates, I believe it's reasonable to conclude, a loss of somekind (payments) will be incurred. I saw the same shit happen when WebmasterChecks and iBill went under.

Nasty · 10-05-2010, 07:11 PM

I was wondering when someone would post about this, I am still waiting for checks that should have been here weeks ago, some from large, generally stand up companies that I have promoted for years.

96ukssob · 10-05-2010, 07:11 PM

my guess is a LOT. already was a battle with 1 to get paid via ACH and still waiting for a payment that was made "5 days ago"

xxxjay · 10-05-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty

I was wondering when someone would post about this, I am still waiting for checks that should have been here weeks ago, some from large, generally stand up companies that I have promoted for years.

There is no question that hiccups will occur. It just seems to me that a lot of sponsors are putting in some extra unnecessary steps to weed out rebills.

I made millions of dollars as an affiliate getting checks and didn't switch to epass until 4 years ago or so because it would make my life "simpler".

Boy was I wrong.

WarChild · 10-06-2010, 10:02 AM

Surprised this thread is so quiet.

Agent 488 · 10-06-2010, 10:07 AM

yes. just noticed a program jacked up a wire minimum with no notice so payment i was expecting now not getting. plus some checks have disappeared.

Shedevils · 10-06-2010, 11:06 AM

It seems like a lot of programs are in no way prepared to pay by check or wire anyways and have been caught with their pants down by this. I would expect some considerable disruption and whining for the foreseeable future.

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10-05-2010, 06:48 PM	#2
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10-05-2010, 06:50 PM	#3
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10-05-2010, 06:53 PM	#5
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	One major company which I won't name was supposed to pay right before the epassporte visa shit happened. They didn't make the transfer to affiliates and instead requested their funding wire back. Affiliates apparently have to wait for them to get that money back from Epassporte before they will pay their affiliates for that period. All periods after that have been paid by other methods no problem. Now I've been told that it's the risk we take for being paid on epassporte. My position is that would be true had the money been transfered to MY wallet. If it had have been transfered, I'd have had credit card and ACH access to it for at least a little while. As it turns out by them taking action to safe guard my payment, I have so far ended up with no payment at all. In my mind that makes it the risk that THEY took in offering epassporte payouts. It would be MY risk if the money were stuck in my wallet. I think that's kind of a fuck over personally. Anyone else? __________________ . Last edited by WarChild; 10-05-2010 at 06:54 PM..

10-05-2010, 06:57 PM	#6
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	probably the same type of people that did it with the webmaster checks bs __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-05-2010, 07:11 PM	#9
Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	I was wondering when someone would post about this, I am still waiting for checks that should have been here weeks ago, some from large, generally stand up companies that I have promoted for years. __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

10-05-2010, 07:11 PM	#10
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	my guess is a LOT. already was a battle with 1 to get paid via ACH and still waiting for a payment that was made "5 days ago" __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

10-06-2010, 10:02 AM	#12
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Surprised this thread is so quiet. __________________ .

10-06-2010, 10:07 AM	#13
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	yes. just noticed a program jacked up a wire minimum with no notice so payment i was expecting now not getting. plus some checks have disappeared.

10-06-2010, 11:06 AM	#14
Shedevils Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 504	It seems like a lot of programs are in no way prepared to pay by check or wire anyways and have been caught with their pants down by this. I would expect some considerable disruption and whining for the foreseeable future.