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Itchy 10-06-2010 05:29 AM

This might be a great thing but then ...... nightmares of before

SlammedMedia 10-06-2010 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 17575690)
Selling porn with PP and paying aff. with PP are two different things.

Exactly. And how the fuck is it any different than Ebay's Adult section? People on there are selling tons of porn and are paying with and accepting Paypal payments.

Darkhorse 10-06-2010 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedCash (Post 17577229)
Exactly. And how the fuck is it any different than Ebay's Adult section? People on there are selling tons of porn and are paying with and accepting Paypal payments.

Exactly and they have been doing it for ages, go figure....

HunkyLuke 10-06-2010 05:42 AM

I have sent them a request for information specifically saying PORN and affiliate payments...will report back once I get their response

Altwebdesign 10-06-2010 05:42 AM

theyre gonna freeze you and your friends

ajrocks 10-06-2010 05:45 AM

I wonder if PayPal wants to give back all the money they took from affiliates and programs when they shut down their accounts for being adult. They should GFY. Douche Bags.

Toni 10-06-2010 05:50 AM

AFF and Top Bucks offer PayPal payout

wyldblyss 10-06-2010 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17576164)
As long as you are not doing anything shady with PayPal I would assume you shouldn't get your account frozen. I would not trust getting huge sums of money in there if I lived overseas and just wanted to use there card. I live in the US and can transfer money out of there pretty easily in a few days. So I wouldn't mind using it to get some payments. It is easier then waiting for checks and going to put them in the banks.

Wrong!!
I had a paypal account that was 100% squeaky clean. A sponsor I was working with, who used paypal a great deal sent me a couple thousand dollars to pay small expenses in his absence (ordering banners, buying domains etc.) Within 20 minutes of the payment being deposited they froze my account. The person that sent the money did not get their account frozen.

I called, emailed and did everything I could to find out what the problem was and was basically told that their TOS allowed them to freeze any account for any reason for investigation. They do not have to tell you what they are investigating and they can freeze your funds for 180 days (6 months). From everything I found on the net at the time, no one EVER got their money back before the 180 days was up. Strangely enough, 99% did get all of their money back and 100% were never told why their account was frozen.

In my case after 180 days my account was no longer locked but my funds were still frozen. I contacted them and they said that all I had to do was request the funds. I did, they released them within a day. I removed the money and haven't used the account since. It is almost as if they make you request the money hoping you will have just forgotten about it. I would never use them to accept payments.

ilbb 10-06-2010 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabasco (Post 17575719)
Thats just a standard copy paste answer from a worker that probably doesn't understand. Would love to hear something official from higher up at PP, but I can't see ebay involving themselves with porn.

I agree with you... the indian support guy didn't uderstand the term 'adult affiliate'

MrRob 10-06-2010 05:59 AM

U GON GET BANNED

Don't even try it.

Paul Markham 10-06-2010 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17575979)
I represent an online adult entertainment company
that has thousands of affiliates. I was wondering if it would be
acceptable use to be able to use PayPal as a way of paying them their
monthly commission payments
The information I am looking
for is very specific. I have thousands of affiliates that make sales to
our adult sites each month. We would like to use PayPal to make payments
to those affiliates who would like to receive their funds in that way.

They are not purchasing anything from us and we are not purchasing
anything from them. Simply paying them for the commissions they earn.
Would this be acceptable use by PayPal. I want to make absolutely
sure that this will not cause funds to be frozen by PayPal in the future
if we use this method as a payment option.'

Did you put a link to your 17 site in the email?

Show them some galleries and tell them it's for sign ups via this type of content onto a site full of this type of content.

SlammedMedia 10-06-2010 06:09 AM

I just wrote them a detailed email asking them. I also asked for an explanation on how eBay members can sell porn and use Paypal to accept payments -- I'll post their reply once I receive it.

Tjeezers 10-06-2010 06:20 AM

I fail to read in their replay some things. And therefor i think you got a Copy Past as a replay. The desk worker searched on the term AFFILIATES in his Q & A script, and does not confirm your situation as an Adult Company

Their answer avoids any words related to that, so I am not convinced this desk worker fully understood or acknowledged your business situation.

A more personal replay from there, where they also make a difference themselves about Adult Products and Adult Affiliates is what I need

Davy 10-06-2010 06:26 AM

I was selling a nude calendar with paypal two years ago. I could ask my contact from back then if they allow adult payments.
Since I am not going to use paypal for anything adult related, I'm not going to give this guy a call, though.

spazlabz 10-06-2010 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17577298)
Did you put a link to your 17 site in the email?

Show them some galleries and tell them it's for sign ups via this type of content onto a site full of this type of content.

do you SEE a link in my e mail to them Paul? You quoted it so it should be easy to tell. I presented their reply, was asked to present the e mail I sent (actually what I filled out in the form on their site) and I did both.

cardinalvices 10-06-2010 06:34 AM

>Individual payments cannot exceed $10,000.00 USD.
Considering the fact that there are programs sending out $200,000+ payments every 2 weeks this is a silly option.

SlammedMedia 10-06-2010 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalvices (Post 17577418)
>Individual payments cannot exceed $10,000.00 USD.
Considering the fact that there are programs sending out $200,000+ payments every 2 weeks this is a silly option.

Your response was silly.

They're sending out $200,000 dollars in "payments", but not as a single "payment".

SenSEO 10-06-2010 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17575674)
according to the person who responded to me... they are very cool about it and want me to tell my friends....so here I am LOL :Oh crap

Are you the referral afilliate?

nikki99 10-06-2010 06:47 AM

what about receiving money from sponsors?, is safe?

spazlabz 10-06-2010 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenSEO (Post 17577443)
Are you the referral afilliate?

No I am a GYLF

willwank 10-06-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17577462)
No I am a GYLF

Actually I think you are the left tire changer on the #42 car :upsidedow

spazlabz 10-06-2010 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17577533)
Actually I think you are the left tire changer on the #42 car :upsidedow

That's low man... low
and you french kiss #99 LOL

_Richard_ 10-06-2010 07:32 AM

this would be nice..

McSpike 10-06-2010 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedCash (Post 17577229)
Exactly. And how the fuck is it any different than Ebay's Adult section? People on there are selling tons of porn and are paying with and accepting Paypal payments.

maybe because ebay is an enviroment controlled by THEM, so they control what is being sold. with 3rd party sellers who knows when the ho is over 18 or not? they can only stop it by not allowing it. with ebay they just delete the shit.

willwank 10-06-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17577577)
That's low man... low
and you french kiss #99 LOL

eeeeewwwwwwww :)

Serge Litehead 10-06-2010 08:16 AM

adult on ebay = tangible goods. its a bit different from porn memberships. both of these instances are clearly covered in PP's terms.

Panky 10-06-2010 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17576296)
No, I am not kidding at all. Basically a lot of people were debating the whats and ifs concerning using PayPal, I just said fuck it and sent them the question and provided the answer for general consumption. That's it. I am not recommending them to anyone or promoting their use, simply transferring the information provided :)

take it or leave it, it does not matter to me

You are just doing what PayPal asked you to do. :tongue: :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz
love the Big Mac attack avatar sPanky

lol! I knew you'd get a chuckle out of it. :)

spazlabz 10-06-2010 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panky (Post 17577784)
You are just doing what PayPal asked you to do. :tongue: :1orglaugh

Zactly... I is a PayPal drone LOL


Quote:

lol! I knew you'd get a chuckle out of it. :)
saddle him up and let's ride!

spazlabz 10-06-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17577771)
adult on ebay = tangible goods. its a bit different from porn memberships. both of these instances are clearly covered in PP's terms.

true but the question put to them (PayPal) was not in regards to memberships but specifically about affiliate payments. However, as many have pointed out I neglected to make some sort of declaritive statement in my question explaining that I work for a

"PORN COMPANY", one that "SELLS MEMBERSHIPS TO PORN SITE FEATURING NAKED PEOPLE HAVING SEX AND LIKING IT"

or maybe I should have said "OMG! EVERYTHING IS LITERALLY BATHED IN CUM, OH GOD THE HUMANITY! can you process payments to our PORN AFFILIATES FOR PORN PORNO PORN!"

Just so I could have been a bit more specific in my query since I must assume that whoever is reading the question I sent is actually a trained chimp in a far off country that heard someone say 'Hi' in English once but that was years ago
:1orglaugh

Panky 10-06-2010 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17577877)
Zactly... I is a PayPal drone LOL

lol! I have to learn how they do that. I could never get you to obey me that well!



Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz
saddle him up and let's ride!

You don't have to ask me twice! Shelby and Mac are ready to go. Where the hell are you? :winkwink: BTW... there's squeaky cheese here for you too!

Serge Litehead 10-06-2010 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17577908)
true but the question put to them (PayPal) ....
:

yup, i just had to comment re some comments saying ebay is selling adult stuff since forever. that is clearly defined in paypal tos. unlike anything else adult related except memberships

spazlabz 10-06-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panky (Post 17578073)
lol! I have to learn how they do that. I could never get you to obey me that well!

the wife's been trying for years, sell me some junk and I am all yours just like ebay LOL
Quote:

You don't have to ask me twice! Shelby and Mac are ready to go. Where the hell are you? :winkwink: BTW... there's squeaky cheese here for you too!
In KY and I would never torture a horse by riding on, I'd snap their backs... except maybe Mac

That squeaky cheese better gets scared if I show up at the Quebec Expo :1orglaugh

spazlabz 10-06-2010 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17578098)
yup, i just had to comment re some comments saying ebay is selling adult stuff since forever. that is clearly defined in paypal tos. unlike anything else adult related except memberships

I understand completely, and I had to comment on some of the comments slung at me, not necessarily yours, but it was convenient to quote ya for my lead in LOL :1orglaugh

Kolargol 10-06-2010 09:29 AM

My site was actually accepted by Paypal to sell memberships to surfers. It is a non nude foot fetish site and they said I can go ahead and start accepting payments. I never did but I wonder if they would suspend my account anyway.

2intense 10-06-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17575921)
and call their moms to ask again...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Panky 10-06-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17578143)
That squeaky cheese better gets scared if I show up at the Quebec Expo :1orglaugh

Eat too much of that squeaky cheese and you won't be flying home. They'd strap you down to a tilt-n-load and ship you back to Colonel Sandersville.

spazlabz 10-06-2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panky (Post 17578220)
Eat too much of that squeaky cheese and you won't be flying home. They'd strap you down to a tilt-n-load and ship you back to Colonel Sandersville.

like THATS never happened before! :upsidedow

HunkyLuke 10-08-2010 11:47 AM

I heard back from PayPal again today, after providing them with further information including my HunkMoney site URL and explicitly mentioning that this is a PORN affiliate program and that I want to use PayPal ONLY for b2b affiliate payouts. Their response was:

Quote:

Thank you very
much for providing us with your website and the information regarding
what you would like to use PayPal for. Unfortunately, we are not able
to extend our services to you for this website http://hunkmoney.com. We
do appreciate your inquiry. Have a great weekend!
So as far as I can tell, adult (even b2b) is not an option!

Jarmusch 10-08-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 17578179)
My site was actually accepted by Paypal to sell memberships to surfers. It is a non nude foot fetish site and they said I can go ahead and start accepting payments. I never did but I wonder if they would suspend my account anyway.

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...-get-raped.jpg

Loch 10-08-2010 11:55 AM

i would NEVER trust them for something like that.
they have been KNOWN to freeze accounts in seconds with zero warning, and usually takes 3-6 months to get your funds back

Edit: i would want a strong contract with them before even considering this option.

minicivan 10-08-2010 11:56 AM

This is a mistake.

You should call her back and say "Hello, I run "runaway teen whores with assholes full of cum" and then explain what you want to do. Your answer will not only be different, there will be a long, uncomfortable pause and awkward silence.

pornpf69 10-08-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17575674)
according to the person who responded to me... they are very cool about it and want me to tell my friends....so here I am LOL :Oh crap

seems like they finally realized how much they lost by not working with this biz... but I wouldn't put my money on paypal...

Machete_ 10-08-2010 12:07 PM

call Mr. Obama just to be sure

stocktrader23 10-08-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17588357)
i would NEVER trust them for something like that.
they have been KNOWN to freeze accounts in seconds with zero warning, and usually takes 3-6 months to get your funds back

Edit: i would want a strong contract with them before even considering this option.

I've had my account frozen over the years at least 10 times. Not once has it taken 6 months to get it back, they only do that for TOS violations or other dirty shit.

Argos88 10-08-2010 12:11 PM

Im not surprised, because paypal has been processing some "almost adult" dating sites and also it has processed many adult forums...

However we are always in risk of having the account freeze. we can never be sure. but anyway, is still good news.

.

cykoe6 10-08-2010 12:24 PM

Based on lots of pain in the past I would never trust them personally.

MaDalton 10-08-2010 12:37 PM

i use them all the time, but neither from my email or the message subject you can tell it's adult. and i ask my clients first what their email is. only once someone used an adult domain for his paypal account i dealt with, but also that went through fine.

Horny Joe 10-08-2010 12:45 PM

Got my first adult paypal payment today... :) Kind of nice!

icymelon 10-08-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17588407)
call Mr. Obama just to be sure

as long as your not in arizona right machete?

Jarmusch 10-08-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

PayPal wants to send out your affiliate payments
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