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Cash4Me 11-28-2010 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by izzynew (Post 17733213)
So the us government can seize any domain name?
In a word Yes.
Absolutely no, this is simply an act of force.
A domain is a private asset, like an house.
If a site contains illegal stuff the only viable way is to sue the owner or force the local ISPs to redirect to a warning page.
Why don't they seize big G, because big G has great lawyers who make anyone cry

DWB 11-28-2010 03:57 PM
The rest of the world still doesn't understand, the USA does WHATEVER she wants. She has a big dick, and even though it is deep in debt, she tosses it all over the world when she wants something and NO ONE will stop her. But if they try, she fucks them in the ass.

There is but one flag on the moon and it's red, white and blue. The USA owns earth, the moon and the whole God damned universe, and that includes the internets. Both of them. So don't think for a nanosecond that she won't snatch your domain should she wake up one morning and decide she wants it.

DWB 11-28-2010 04:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cash4Me (Post 17733789)
A domain is a private asset, like an house.
And she'll take your house and call it Imminent Domain.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cash4Me (Post 17733789)
Why don't they seize big G, because big G has great lawyers who make anyone cry
If she wants Google, she will take it. Right now she doesn't want it. She'll look into it later when it becomes a threat to national security. At the very least, she'll put her dirty hands all over it and try to control it, just like China did.

marlboroack 11-28-2010 04:22 PM
HFS WTF Y? USA FTW? :pimp

WarChild 11-28-2010 04:30 PM
I guess you're worried because you mainly run Warez sites?

Agent 488 11-28-2010 04:33 PM
as i predicted they just moved to new domains and got the world out via twitter and facebook.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/27/ice-ice-baby/

"Domains under US jurisdiction currently include anything controlled by Verisign which puts .com site owners in a legal relationship with the United States. According to Denninger, all afflicted site owners need to do is move to a non-US controlled top level domain in order to dodge further ICE seizures."

Cash4Me 11-28-2010 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17733836)
I guess you're worried because you mainly run Warez sites?
Everyone should be worried.
Think about a forum owned by yourself and an idiot user shares a link to a free storage link.
You are now in charge for that link and the domain seized.

kektex 11-28-2010 05:33 PM
Ill say it once again: I cant believe there are shortsighted porn webmasters that support this.
I hope this causes changes in ICANN soon. It cant remain in the hands of the US.

moeloubani 11-28-2010 05:36 PM
Yeah this is horrible...what if something is passed where they don't like a porn site so they just take your domain and then you have to get it back by going through the 'process' paying this and this to file this and then waiting 3-6 months to hear that this and this needs to be done and so on and so forth. The internet should be global - no one country should have any authority to fuck with it and censor it.

Agent 488 11-28-2010 05:47 PM
icann in the hands of the US is a weapon of mass destruction.

Odin 11-28-2010 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17733800)
The rest of the world still doesn't understand, the USA does WHATEVER she wants. She has a big dick, and even though it is deep in debt, she tosses it all over the world when she wants something and NO ONE will stop her. But if they try, she fucks them in the ass.

There is but one flag on the moon and it's red, white and blue. The USA owns earth, the moon and the whole God damned universe, and that includes the internets. Both of them. So don't think for a nanosecond that she won't snatch your domain should she wake up one morning and decide she wants it.
It's this kind of arrogance that makes me happy to see Asia rising. US power is dwindling day by day. You have 4 more stages to go through, but enjoy the denial.

PornMD 11-28-2010 08:34 PM
Lemme understand something...most of you bitch about these sorts of sites that are sharing your porn, but you then bitch when the US govt snags a domain with one of these sites that focuses more on general piracy? Allllright.

Barry-xlovecam 11-28-2010 10:44 PM
An arrest (a seizure) can be made under the "plain sight rule" ? without a warrant. When a crime is being committed in "plain sight."

Commercial infringement is a 5 year felony (a crime).

Seizure is not forfeiture. Seized property can be ordered returned by a court.


Quote:
United States Constitution Bill of Rights Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

CyberHustler 11-28-2010 10:54 PM
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Odin 11-28-2010 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17734277)
[INDENT]An arrest (a seizure) can be made under the "plain sight rule" — without a warrant. When a crime is being committed in "plain sight."

Commercial infringement is a 5 year felony (a crime).

Seizure is not forfeiture. Seized property can be ordered returned by a court.
That's correct. However, what people forget is there is a long running debate over the legitimacy of seizing property in this manner. Not only in the digital space, but also offline. If someones livelihood is his business and it is seized (lets say on false grounds) he no longer has the means to defend himself in court. The Government naturally loves this method, but many many legal people do not consider it just.

This is a fair example. Torrent-finder (there is some talk it was a hoax mind you), but assuming it was not. Torrent-finder may well be operating within the relevant DMCA laws, but the Government agencies carefully picked targets that are incapable of fighting back once they loose their possessions.

Barry-xlovecam 11-28-2010 11:47 PM
According to a Wall Street Journal article the domains were seized with court warrants ...

Quote:
"A federal crackdown that shut more than 70 websites last week is the latest sign of an escalating war against counterfeit and pirated products, using legal tactics that may be closely scrutinized by civil-liberties groups.

Domain names of the affected sites?which offered such diverse goods as scarves, golf gear and rap music?were seized by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, part of the Department of Homeland Security, under court-approved warrants."


Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000... xzz16eRVhhMj

madawgz 11-29-2010 02:38 AM
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madawgz 11-29-2010 02:42 AM
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Paul Markham 11-29-2010 04:23 AM
If the guys with the tin foil hats thought for a second they would ask themselves why haven't they seized Wikileaks yet?

If there was one site the US and MANY MANY countries would love to see closed it's that one.

maxxtro 11-29-2010 04:57 AM
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