Manwin and Pink Visual Answer Your Digital Finger Printing/Filtering Questions

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  • Allison
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 2068

    #1

    Manwin and Pink Visual Answer Your Digital Finger Printing/Filtering Questions

    Earlier today, Pink Visual and Manwin released a joint statement regarding a settlement that was reached in the copyright infringement lawsuit. As mentioned, many of the terms of the agreement are confidential, however, what both parties believe is most important for industry members to understand and learn about is Digital Finger Printing and Filtering Technology, and specifically the FSC?s Anti-Piracy Action Program.

    The use of this technology is a first in the adult industry for a UGC site, despite it being utilized for years in mainstream. Both Fabian and I will be here to answer your questions to the best of our knowledge regarding finger printing and filtering. That way, you get information on how the technology works from the perspective of both a content owner and a tube site operator, as well.

    We will not be responding to any speculation or other comments which would breech confidentiality between the parties.
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  • MaDalton
    I am Amazing Content!
    • Feb 2004
    • 39861

    #2
    i just read through http://www.fscapap.com/ - what costs are involved for content owners besides the registration fee of $450?

    i like what i read there, btw - for both parties
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    • Allison
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2001
      • 2068

      #3
      Originally posted by MaDalton
      i just read through http://www.fscapap.com/ - what costs are involved for content owners besides the registration fee of $450?

      i like what i read there, btw - for both parties
      As a content owner, you have 2 options.

      Option 1: Participate in the Monetization Program which is free and allows you to include advertising promoting your site(s) where you generate the revenue and keep 55% and pay 45% to the FSC to distribute to cover administrative and technology fees.

      I'll take that, normally I'm left with only 30-40% after paying webmasters.

      Option 2: Participate in option 1 and participate in the Video Tracker component of the program which also allows studios to track potential infringements on 16+ tube sites (and growing) as well as manage DMCA's and removals for less than $500 per month. More intensive tracking can be done for additional fees.

      To truly understand option 2 and how it might work best for your needs, a demo of the technology is recommended.
      Last edited by Eric; 10-05-2010, 01:45 PM.
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      • rhizome
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2001
        • 788

        #4
        So basically this is a platform for big companies to indirectly screw over smaller ones in an attempt to milk whatever money is left to be earned in this industry. Congratulations you've just validated the entire Brazzers business model.

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        • Si
          Such Fun!
          • Feb 2008
          • 13900

          #5
          Step in the right direction.

          But, fucking expensive. Looks like another technique to weed out the smaller sites.

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          • MaDalton
            I am Amazing Content!
            • Feb 2004
            • 39861

            #6
            Originally posted by Allison
            As a content owner, you have 2 options.

            Option 1: Participate in the Monetization Program which is free and allows you to include advertising promoting your site(s) where you generate the revenue and keep 65% and pay 45% to the FSC to distribute to cover administrative and technology fees.

            I'll take that, normally I'm left with only 30-40% after paying webmasters.

            Option 2: Participate in option 1 and participate in the Video Tracker component of the program which also allows studios to track potential infringements on 16+ tube sites (and growing) as well as manage DMCA's and removals for less than $500 per month. More intensive tracking can be done for additional fees.

            To truly understand option 2 and how it might work best for your needs, a demo of the technology is recommended.

            ok, just asking to understand better:

            option 2 means that i pay the FSC for keeping my content of the tube sites - i will fingerprint my content and therefore it can be easily tracked and removed

            with option 1 the content stays on the tube site and i make the FSC basically my affililate thats keeps 45% in case the surfer signs up to my site - correct?

            what does the tube site owner gain in both cases?
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            Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites
            Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you!
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            • fris
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2002
              • 55679

              #7
              i see more law suits coming towards mansef, its not like they will stop doing it, they even have a tube in their members area with content that shouldnt be there.
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              • Si
                Such Fun!
                • Feb 2008
                • 13900

                #8
                Originally posted by MaDalton

                what does the tube site owner gain in both cases?
                Keeping the content in one form or another, and not getting sued for $$$$$$$$

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                • Allison
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 2068

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                  ok, just asking to understand better:

                  option 2 means that i pay the FSC for keeping my content of the tube sites - i will fingerprint my content and therefore it can be easily tracked and removed

                  with option 1 the content stays on the tube site and i make the FSC basically my affililate thats keeps 45% in case the surfer signs up to my site - correct?

                  what does the tube site owner gain in both cases?
                  Option 1 allows you to set rules like "any finger print matches over 3 minutes replace with this 30 second promo video and add an overlay". In other cases the rule might be to have the uploaded content removed completely. So nothing you don't want up would stay up.

                  Fabian can comment on his perspective of the benefits.
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                  • JOKER
                    Facit Omnia Voluntas
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 2105

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Allison
                    Option 1: Participate in the Monetization Program which is free and allows you to include advertising promoting your site(s) where you generate the revenue and keep 65% and pay 45% to the FSC to distribute to cover administrative and technology fees.
                    65% + 45% = 110%
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                    • signupdamnit
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Allison
                      I'll take that, normally I'm left with only 30-40% after paying webmasters.
                      After they have all the traffic and there is no such thing as affiliates, why would they continue to send you traffic? They can just open their own sites and cut you out as well..... Already we see common ownership between pirate tubes and paysites. It's already happening.
                      Last edited by signupdamnit; 10-04-2010, 04:52 PM.

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                      • NaughtyVisions
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                        • May 2008
                        • 4204

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.
                        65% + 45% = 110%
                        My coaches always told me you're not playing hard if you're not giving 110%.
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                        • woj
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 47882

                          #13
                          Can you clarify exactly what the process is? You signup, pay $450, and then exactly what happens?
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                          • JOKER
                            Facit Omnia Voluntas
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 2105

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NaughtyVisions
                            giving 110%.

                            That would be the next step

                            catch my drift?
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                            • Allison
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                              • Jul 2001
                              • 2068

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Si
                              Step in the right direction.

                              But, fucking expensive. Looks like another technique to weed out the smaller sites.
                              Normally technology like this costs ten's of thousands of dollars per month. The FSC has done an incredible job of selecting a state of the art technology platform and negotiating to make this an affordable option for companies large and small.

                              Pink Visual has researched other similar technology options and has found the FSC APAP to be hands down the best.
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