Seriously if someone told me a crazy man might shoot a gun at me if I go on a pond, I dont go on the pond. That lake is not safe. Dont go on that lake.

Hey its hapened before!

That lake is in USA. A portion of the USA isn't safe. We're not talking about a wildlife conservation area that may have rattlesnakes or cougars that you should stay away from - it's part of the USA that *should be safe from non US citizens.

But you know that...

Check out http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat.../lakes/falcon/
Damn near the whole of the lake is in Mexico.

i find it hard to believe that more than just a couple of % of mexicans in america are really causing any problems. it is all focused at the border, and to start throwing out % of mexicans in your city (when you admit yourself there is no accurate numbers available) is a bit racist. where i live there is a HUGE mexican population working the farms and doing other work that 99% of americans would not do no matter how much you paid for them.

america would crumble without their labor, and if you think otherwise you are a bit dillusional, but then again you think have stated maybe america should go to war with mexico because it would only last an hour and a half. i think we have heard that before.... with the exception of the first gulf war america has a pretty steady record of entering wars they think will be quick and wind up lasting way too long.

somehow this conversation shifted from being about violence at the border to the disruptions mexicans ahve in places like kansas city... and that is where this conversation shifted from being serious to being a racist plea to get rid of all the mexicans in the country

Yep I know that we share it and things should be safe and all.. but the reality sure seems to be that every other week, we hear of pirates or (now) shootings on that lake. Sucks, but gotta be practical too. We should either get on there with US coast guard, or turn our half into jello, lol.

I can't tell who's the crazier cunt of the two, this woman jet skiing in pirate waters, or Sally Rand...

Why cant the US army go in and clean off that shithole?

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-me...n-falcon-lake/

Officials Issue Warning AFTER Murder on Falcon Lake

by Julian Aguilar
October 1, 2010

"Following the fatal shooting of a U.S. citizen boating on Falcon Lake on Thursday, Texas law enforcement agencies are asking visitors to the popular freshwater fishing spot to stay clear of the Mexican side of the international body of water.

A 30-year-old man was shot in the head by Mexican gunmen, officials said, after he and his wife navigated their Jet Skis past the international boundary in what officials say was a sight-seeing trip to Guerrero Viejo, Tamaulipas. Authorities have not found the man's body, but he is presumed dead. Officials allege that the attackers were armed Mexican pirates, who continued shooting at the surviving wife after she fled back toward U.S. waters.

?The Zapata County Sheriff?s Office, the Texas Department of Public Safety and the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department are telling boaters on Falcon Lake to stay on the United States side of the lake and not venture into Mexican waters,? said a statement released today by the Texas DPS. ?Fishermen are still advised to stay as far away as possible from any of the Argos-type fishing boats typically used as fishing vessels by Mexican fishermen. These boats have a large prow, a small outboard motor without a cowling and no identification numbers on the hull.?

Officials said the assailants could be ?members of a drug trafficking organization or members of an enforcer group linked to a drug trafficking organization who are heavily armed and using AK-47s or AR-15 rifles to threaten their victims.?

Thursday?s incident marks the fifth time since April that boaters have run into trouble on the popular lake. According to the DPS statement, previous attacks include:

April 30: Four heavily armed men boarded two boats near the Old Guerrero area and demanded money. After collecting $200 in cash, the bandits tried to follow the U.S. boats as they sped back to U.S. waters. The bandits stopped once they reached the U.S. boundary.

May 6: Two armed men approached a boat near Marker 14 on the north side of Salado Island on top of the ruins at Old Guerrero. The men demanded money, which the fishermen gave them.

May 16: Five armed men boarded a boat on the United States side of the lake near Marker 7. Investigators have no further information on the incident.

Aug 31: Falcon Lake pirates, in a small boat marked ?Game Wardin [sic]? in duct-taped letters, attempted to stop a Texas fisherman. The fisherman's knowledge of previous DPS safety warnings about Falcon Lake and the misspelling of "warden" alerted him something was wrong, and he outran the Mexican vessel to safety.

Lake patrons are advised to call the Zapata County Sheriff?s Department to report emergencies."

I don't read that anyone has even gotten close to suggesting that Mexicans be removed from the USA but if you find such a statement in this thread, please point it out for all to see. I do believe there is plenty of popular support for the idea of removing illegal aliens, regardless of their origin but suggesting that is hardly racist!

Hey moron most of the lake is actually in Mexico and they were on the MEXICAN side of the lake where there are MANY MNAY warnings to NOT go over there.

The first thing you've said that makes sense.

There is absolutely no point in trying to carry on a reasonable discussion with some of the users here.

Looks like there's been a history of problems on that lake. Kinda like going hiking along the Iranian border, sure there's been problems with other hikers, but it won't happen to me syndrome.

Maybe when you actually try to have one let us know.

Sounds like natural selection to me. 2 dummies jet skiing on the border, big surprise when things go bad. I hope the 2 imbeciles didn't procreate.

Asked about the comments this morning on NBC's "Today" show, an emotional Tiffany Hartley responded, "I would have to say that, you know, when they know the pirates are out there. We knew that. We knew there was a possibility of them being there."


DOH!!!!!!!

Well, now, that means thedumb bitch and her equally dumb dead hubby were just plain Goddamned stupid but the fact remains that the US/Mexican border is a dangerous place and the USA government is failing in its responsibility to secure our borders.

if we want to lock them out then why should we be allowed to go over there? bitch should have known better than to cross the border. i'm sure there are much more stories of us shooting at them than there is of stories like this one where the tables have been turned.

How are we supposed to protect the MEXICAN side of the border? That's where the attack in the first place. As soon as Obama puts troops on the lake and prevents Americans from going to the Mexican side for their own protection, these same teabaggers would bitch about how thier rights are being taken away. You can't have it both ways.

The US is no more responsible for the protection of US citizens who CHOOSE to go to the Mexican side of the border than they are for Americans who choose to go into Iran or N Korea.

Well last time it was a Mexican kid on Mexican soil shot across the border by a US patrolman.

That has been proven to be fake.

Yes, they should do it fast, until americans start moving over there. :)

White power!

Fuck those nignog muslims they elected to office, and all the wetbacks jumping the border. Kill em all and god bless whitey!

Fuck you're one retarded inbred bitch...

Just sayin'

Simple question, why would you be against locking down the border?

Congrats Sally!

http://www.dave-h.com/images/Funny/7.jpg

Another simple question. What is/was your feeling towards Reagan's "Tear down that Wall" approach.

It is now reported that they were seven miles into Mexico checking out a sunken ghost town. She admits they had heard warnings of it being dangerous. Took her six days to file the paperwork with the Mexican Authorities that a crime had taken place. CNN reports she had blood on her lifejacket and says she will take a lie detector test if people continue to doubt the her account of how things went down.

i hope she gets polygraphed.. i'd be impressed if she went back for her husband under gun fired that just mowed him down

bigger holes in that story than the lake they were on

Sure? I sounds the opposite to me, USA is declaring war to Mexico for the following reasons.

Criminal gangs are committing thousands of crimes IN MEXICO.
-those criminal gangs are being armed by USA, weapons come from USA through the border
-those criminal gangs get financial support from drug buyers in USA.
-those criminals attack mexican police and army also.

So, who is declaring war on who?

how can those two things be compared? The wall was in the middle of one country

Still had the same intent. A wall that keeps people out also keeps people in. I just think the wall is the wrong solution. Stop the reason for them coming and they will stay put in their homelands.

It might not be an ideal solution, but it's the best available one at present.


That's an issue that needs to be taken up with the Mexican government. Most of them are crossing over because it sucks on their side of the border.
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The cost/benefit ratio it has shown so far has not proven this.


Stop the reason they come here. Everyone knows the reason and that is jobs. Make it a jailable offence to knowingly or should have the presence of mind to hire them. A person that comes to you for a job and only speaks Spanish is 99.999% most likely here illegally.

it's an issue that needs to be taken up with our governments on why there is third world standards on our piece of the planet

I can't speak for Ottawa, but the clowns in Washington DC can't even fix the USA economy, do you really think they're capable of fixing what's wrong with Mexico and the rest of Central America?
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No it hasn't.

To test your theory the Mexican border would have to be properly secured first.

That border hasn't been anything even close to secure since at least the 1960's.



On this we agree.
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The wall issue is moot. Has nobody here heard of UNDERGROUND TUNNELS? No amount of wall is gonna stop drug cartels funded by billions in drug money from illicit sales in the US. It is just silly to think otherwise. The only solution is to end prohibition. A billion dollars in illicit funds can buy an infinite amount of border guards and other officials so you will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER see any stop to it no matter how much money you pour into the fruitless war on drugs.

http://borderwallinthenews.blogspot....on-border.html