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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #51
    Originally posted by kane
    For me the tea party is only going to effect change if they stick to their guns. They say they won't vote for anything that increases the deficit. Let's see if they hold true to that. Rand Paul has said that he would even filibuster his own party if they tried to pass an unbalanced budge proposal. Again, talk is cheap, I need to see some actions before I decide that these guys are any different than standard old republicans who promise the moon and deliver nothing but cheese.

    Paul, after all, did once say he would never accept any campaign contributions from any senator who voted for the bail out. After wining the republican primary he flew to DC for a $1000 per plate dinner to raise money that included none other than Mitch McConnell who did vote for the bailout. So it took him less than 48 hours after winning the primary to break a promise. Not a very good start.
    It's the core value of this country to protest when you think something is wrong, only a moron would be against that. If the Tea Party can hold momentum and effect elections the way they have been doing, things will change in Washington. If they grow in numbers, which is something I think could happen, although be it not probable, they as a people would have more political presence than the president of the US, which in a perfect world, is what it's suppose to be. The POTUS is working for the people.

    Originally posted by dyna mo
    vendzilla, you're a tea partier right? is rand paul your leader/voice?
    Not a member of the Tea Party, they are I believe are a group of something like 2800 smaller groups that pull together with similar views and values. I don't think they have any leaders really. they are from the ground up and that is what's making them different than any other political group ever put together. I believe that guys that wrote the constitution were pretty smart and over the last decade, they have been ignored. That's something I want to see change. I've been invited to a Rally, I've never been to a political rally and I think I'll go.
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that

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    • kane
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2001
      • 20684

      #52
      Originally posted by dyna mo
      you talk as if you're the only one here who follows current events. you're not.

      you point to rand paul as if he is THE tea party leader. he's not the one voice for the *party* in the slightest. simply because he said that does nat make it a tea party mantra.

      just like you said "if the tea party wins seats* it's not a party, he's not the leader of the party and his words don't represent the *party*
      I understand that the tea party is not an actual political party that is why I typically refer to them as tea party supported candidates. When I didn't it was simply a mistake on my part or I meant it as a tea party supported candidate.

      Maybe it is my opinion. Maybe it isn't. All I know is that it seems like most of the candidates that I am aware of who were/are supported by the tea party (or any number of the tea parties that are out there) all seem to have a similar message. They want less taxes, smaller government, a balanced budget and they want to reduce the deficit. Most of these candidates have not said how they would go about doing so, but that is what they want and many of them have said they will vote against bills/budgets/anything that doesn't support their ideals.

      I'm just basing what I said off of that. It isn't just Rand Paul, I used him as an example.

      But in the end I guess I don't get the point of your posts. Are you saying that I am wrong and that the tea party supported candidates will simply fall lock step in with the republican leadership and do as they are told? Or are you just in the mood to argue the semantics of what I've posted.

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      • kane
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Aug 2001
        • 20684

        #53
        Originally posted by Vendzilla
        It's the core value of this country to protest when you think something is wrong, only a moron would be against that. If the Tea Party can hold momentum and effect elections the way they have been doing, things will change in Washington. If they grow in numbers, which is something I think could happen, although be it not probable, they as a people would have more political presence than the president of the US, which in a perfect world, is what it's suppose to be. The POTUS is working for the people.
        Sure they could do a lot, but as I said, I'm waiting to see how it pans out before I get too excited by anything. Regardless of how the election in November pans out there are going to be some tea part supported candidates that win. If those candidates get into off and stick to their guns and do as they say they will, eventually they can effect change and get more like minded people elected. If they just bow to the power and do as they are told like so many other politicians and they abandon their core values they really they have done nothing but find a different way to get elected.

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        • Vendzilla
          Biker Gnome
          • Mar 2004
          • 23200

          #54
          Originally posted by kane
          Sure they could do a lot, but as I said, I'm waiting to see how it pans out before I get too excited by anything. Regardless of how the election in November pans out there are going to be some tea part supported candidates that win. If those candidates get into off and stick to their guns and do as they say they will, eventually they can effect change and get more like minded people elected. If they just bow to the power and do as they are told like so many other politicians and they abandon their core values they really they have done nothing but find a different way to get elected.
          I agree, but if the Tea Party stays on them with pressure, they may find it better to stick to the core values they promised to uphold
          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
          think about that

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          • kane
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2001
            • 20684

            #55
            Originally posted by Vendzilla
            I agree, but if the Tea Party stays on them with pressure, they may find it better to stick to the core values they promised to uphold
            For sure. It may happen pretty quickly. If there are a decent number of Tea Party supported candidates in the house (most likely there will be 10-15) and they stick together they could form a formidable block and force the GOP to deal with them. This could give them some real power. If they buckle though, then it is bad news for the tea party in general.

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #56
              Originally posted by kane
              Are you saying that I am wrong and that the tea party supported candidates will simply fall lock step in with the republican leadership and do as they are told? Or are you just in the mood to argue the semantics of what I've posted.
              both. i think semantics are important in this discussion and, from what i understand, yes, the candidates will toe the republican line, at least in the short term. the tea party is too small to actually take on the republican party at this point. even though they take action, rally, protest, and make themselves heard, when push comes to shove behind close doors inside the beltway, it's my opinion they will toe the republican line. that's the system.

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              • Slutboat
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2008
                • 2388

                #57
                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                I agree, but if the Tea Party stays on them with pressure, they may find it better to stick to the core values they promised to uphold

                Hahahahahahahaah CORE VALUES???? HATE is the ONLY Core Value of the TeaBaggers - HATE AND FEAR. You mindless Tbaggers are indoctrinated by OLD RICH WHITE MEN...

                Enjoy the ride, pretty soon you fuckers are going extinct.

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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #58
                  thank god there's not a slutboat party.

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                  • Bryan G
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 8338

                    #59
                    Vendzilla it has nothing to do with her views she's a fucking lunatic. Google her defining the bush doctorate. Should someone who was running for vp of the republican party not know the answer to that?
                    Bryan
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                    • Slutboat
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2388

                      #60
                      This is THE QUINTESSENTIAL Tea Bagger - Fuck you guys - take your smear campaign somewhere else.

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                      The Slut Boat promises something for everyone

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                      • kane
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 20684

                        #61
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        both. i think semantics are important in this discussion and, from what i understand, yes, the candidates will toe the republican line, at least in the short term. the tea party is too small to actually take on the republican party at this point. even though they take action, rally, protest, and make themselves heard, when push comes to shove behind close doors inside the beltway, it's my opinion they will toe the republican line. that's the system.
                        Fair enough. Actually I think you and I are pretty much in agreement with this. I think the tea party supported candidates could be a thorn in the GOP's side as I state above, but I have a feeling in the end they will cave to the pressure and tow the party line.

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                        • Vendzilla
                          Biker Gnome
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 23200

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Bryan G
                          Vendzilla it has nothing to do with her views she's a fucking lunatic. Google her defining the bush doctorate. Should someone who was running for vp of the republican party not know the answer to that?
                          You're kidding me right, she made a mistake and you call her crazy? Or maybe you'll judge her on her speaking abilities?

                          Obama said he was at all 57 states, what do you call him?
                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                          think about that

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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200

                            #63
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            both. i think semantics are important in this discussion and, from what i understand, yes, the candidates will toe the republican line, at least in the short term. the tea party is too small to actually take on the republican party at this point. even though they take action, rally, protest, and make themselves heard, when push comes to shove behind close doors inside the beltway, it's my opinion they will toe the republican line. that's the system.
                            I don't think the Tea Party wants to takeover the GOP, just change them back to what they use to be
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                            • kane
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 20684

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                              You're kidding me right, she made a mistake and you call her crazy? Or maybe you'll judge her on her speaking abilities?

                              Obama said he was at all 57 states, what do you call him?
                              She's not crazy because she was unprepared. From the sound of it she hadn't done her homework, was unprepared for how heavy the media would come down on her and didn't feel like learning the material. That doesn't make her crazy.

                              Here is one thing that does. Einstein said,"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Palin (and many like her) does just this. She believes that the only sex ed you should give your kid is abstinence only. No sex until marriage. She sees first hand how well that works. Her own daughter got knocked up at 17. You go anywhere in this country where abstinence is the only thing taught to kids and you will also find the highest rates of teen pregnancy and teen STDs in the nation. Yet, after seeing first hand how that doesn't work, she continues to believe it is true. So much so that she now has gotten her once pregnant daughter a position as the teen abstinence ambassador for Candies. So it didn't work before, but we are sticking with it and we are using the person who didn't follow the plan as the poster girl for the movement. That is crazy.
                              Last edited by kane; 10-02-2010, 05:30 PM.

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #65
                                Originally posted by kane
                                Fair enough. Actually I think you and I are pretty much in agreement with this. I think the tea party supported candidates could be a thorn in the GOP's side as I state above, but I have a feeling in the end they will cave to the pressure and tow the party line.
                                yup, i think you are right, we do agree. prolly why i was pressing you re: your comments.

                                and, ftr, i wouldn't mind seeing the tea party make some headway into the sytem. we need a serious shake-up.

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                                • Bryan G
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 8338

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                  You're kidding me right, she made a mistake and you call her crazy? Or maybe you'll judge her on her speaking abilities?

                                  Obama said he was at all 57 states, what do you call him?
                                  Lol wow now you're just batshit crazy. What was the mistake? she clearly had no idea what the fuck she was talking about. This is funny as fuck. The fact that you think she is good for your country is insane. But hey she can see russia from alaska!!
                                  Bryan
                                  skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591

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                                  • Slutboat
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2008
                                    • 2388

                                    #67
                                    Bryan - thanks for tryin but they are the Stepford Wives
                                    The Slut Boat soon will be making another run
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                                    • kane
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 20684

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                      yup, i think you are right, we do agree. prolly why i was pressing you re: your comments.

                                      and, ftr, i wouldn't mind seeing the tea party make some headway into the sytem. we need a serious shake-up.
                                      Me too. I hope if they get elected they stick their guns. A small core group could be enough to be a major pain and force the others to come to them.

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                                      • Chosen
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 63151

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Slutboat
                                        I wonder if it's real

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                                        • Slutboat
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2008
                                          • 2388

                                          #70
                                          The Slut Boat soon will be making another run
                                          The Slut Boat promises something for everyone

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                                          • The Demon
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 7336

                                            #71
                                            I pray to God slutboat becomes a sponsor for the Democratic Party. That's pretty much a guarantee that we'd be down to one main political party.
                                            Greed is Good

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                                            • Vendzilla
                                              Biker Gnome
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 23200

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by kane
                                              She's not crazy because she was unprepared. From the sound of it she hadn't done her homework, was unprepared for how heavy the media would come down on her and didn't feel like learning the material. That doesn't make her crazy.

                                              Here is one thing that does. Einstein said,"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Palin (and many like her) does just this. She believes that the only sex ed you should give your kid is abstinence only. No sex until marriage. She sees first hand how well that works. Her own daughter got knocked up at 17. You go anywhere in this country where abstinence is the only thing taught to kids and you will also find the highest rates of teen pregnancy and teen STDs in the nation. Yet, after seeing first hand how that doesn't work, she continues to believe it is true. So much so that she now has gotten her once pregnant daughter a position as the teen abstinence ambassador for Candies. So it didn't work before, but we are sticking with it and we are using the person who didn't follow the plan as the poster girl for the movement. That is crazy.
                                              Most of the time, social issues play a role in politics, I don't think thats going to happen this time, so it doesn't matter.
                                              The democrats have fucked things up so bad that any conservative agenda, FISCALLY, stands a chance on getting elected, you want someone to blame, blame the democrats, they are making it possible for extreme right wing politicians to get in office

                                              Originally posted by Bryan G
                                              Lol wow now you're just batshit crazy. What was the mistake? she clearly had no idea what the fuck she was talking about. This is funny as fuck. The fact that you think she is good for your country is insane. But hey she can see russia from alaska!!
                                              So it's ok for the president to say they went to 57 states? I believe he said he had a few more to go to!

                                              OK,. thats your opinion, you think Barry hasn't fucked things up
                                              how about
                                              Choosing tax cheat Timothy Geithner to be his Treasury Secretary. It's mind boggling that Barry would choose a tax cheat to run the department that's in charge of the IRS. The man in charge of that effort doesn't pay his taxes?
                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                              think about that

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                                              • u-Bob
                                                there's no $$$ in porn
                                                • Jul 2005
                                                • 33063

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Slutboat
                                                The nearly all white so-called "Tea Party" is RACIST TO THE CORE.


                                                Time to bump the Tea Party Sign Thread
                                                you're buying into the statist propaganda. The tea parties started as a reaction against the whole system (when bush was still in office).

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                                                • TheLegacy
                                                  SEO & GEO Connoisseur
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 18078

                                                  #74
                                                  Do we really feel anyone can make a difference for the better?
                                                  Does the president really run the country?

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                                                  • Slutboat
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2008
                                                    • 2388

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                                    Do we really feel anyone can make a difference for the better?
                                                    Does the president really run the country?
                                                    The answer YES to both of your questions - far more than most people realize. I can fully understand why you would have this misconception being as you are from Canada.
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                                                    • theking
                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 21053

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Slutboat
                                                      The answer YES to both of your questions - far more than most people realize. I can fully understand why you would have this misconception being as you are from Canada.
                                                      The President has weak domestic powers...his primary domestic power is the "bully pulpit". Congress makes law and controls the purse strings...thus the Congress really runs the country not a singular person.
                                                      Last edited by theking; 10-03-2010, 10:04 AM.
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                                                      • kane
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 20684

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        Most of the time, social issues play a role in politics, I don't think thats going to happen this time, so it doesn't matter.
                                                        The democrats have fucked things up so bad that any conservative agenda, FISCALLY, stands a chance on getting elected, you want someone to blame, blame the democrats, they are making it possible for extreme right wing politicians to get in office
                                                        I agree with this to some degree. For example. I live in a pretty liberal state. During the last gubernatorial election the democrat ran on a platform of raising taxes and raising spending. the republican ran on the just the opposite, but also brought morality into play. He lost. People in my state preferred the tax and spend democrat over the moral high ground of the republican.

                                                        However this year the republican is probably going to win and he hasn't said a word about social issues or morality, he is focused all on the money and the economy.

                                                        That said, I don't think Palin would be able to help herself. Much of her agenda and her popularity is seeded in her beliefs and I don't think she would be able to not bring them up. She can't help it, it is who she is and it is the reason a lot of people don't like her.

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