Cash Moneys
Because Credits Cards no vork?

Because it's a pure chauvinism. It's same when some "bromaster" say: "Jaws=greedy god-killers", "black people=gangsters", "Germans=Nazi", "Italians=mafia" etc. This is all the same thing and I believe the person who states this must be banned from GFY according to the rules. :2 cents: If you don't understand this, I have nothing to add.

However enough is enough. Now I'm going off, to complete the last mission of "StarCraft II" (been beaten 2 times in a raw there already), so don't miss me for a long time :)

BTW, I bought my copy of "StarCraft II" at http://eu.battle.net for WebMoney (not for VISA/MC is it doesn't matter for someone :)) and it was cost me a bit less than $15 :pimp

Russian traffic converts 1:1200 for us, not counting sms billing which doesnt factor into join ratios. There are countries (ie South America) which are doing MUCH worse.

I swear I didn't. Any prove, any names so far? Really? BTW, I heard that Chris Mallick is also Russian. Is it true? What;s about his relation to IBILL which (as we all know) was controlled by KGB and Putin directly?

What are you talking about? You don't know me.
Why should I not have gotten a Russian VISA? If you think I organized one myself then I have to agree - that must be quite difficult. But you know, there are travel companies who organize visas for people.

The only thing I know about Russians is that they can't be trusted. I'm not even kidding...every single one that I've known personally or worked with is a crafty, manipulative sociopath.

If you're Russian, and a nice person, don't be offended -- but I can only speak from experience. They have a natural born ability to steal your social security number while just looking at you.

---and the women. Just ask Mel Gibson about that.

100% agreed. But there are people here who will always continue this kind of shit about Russians, shit about black people, Germans, Italians, whatever and they never gonna be banned for it. I understand that you're offended, but unfortunately I think discussing with them is a pure waste of precious time and this place won't change a bit because of it. Sad but true.

2 cyberxxx
Everybody knows
russians are crazy dirty ppl which love to play on balalayka and drink vodka with bears in deep-deep forest during long 6 month polar winter night! :)

Да не бери их так близко к сердцу.

Where are you from man?

As far as I heard Mel Gibson is a racial piece of shit. Am I wrong?

tam ne skim govorit, pure potz opinion that he should keep sebe v trapachky

50 Matryoshkas

Да я и не бeру на самом деле. Just completed the final StarCraft II mission, so I'm in a good mood :) BTW, still can't understand why Raynor saved Sarah and killed his old buddy. That was a bit... unexpected :Oh crap

but she is so sexy :)

продолжайте продолжайте! пиндосрач моде он! :D

Well, sucks but if you were wrong you should always admit, right? :winkwink:

I was told now that almost every Russian has a credit card nowadays, they were handed out to fight illegal employment. But most people only use it to receive their salaries and not for anything else. Especially not for paying online for porn, as Russian mass media keeps telling not to do that because you gonna get fucked... Not exactly wrong, especially when using it at sites of certain US programs. *cough* SOBV *cough* :1orglaugh

So, sorry again - was wrong about that.

in russia you don't join paysite, paysite joins you.

I cant read cyberxxx as he is on ignore. But i can see thru what he says when others quote it. Yeah, the guy gets offended as 1-2-3, that type is popular in Russia, vodka fight and wedding madness too. But back to credit cards.

1. People all over ex-USSR, especially in Russia really have debit cards, not credit but debit cards. There are credit cards also but they are not popular as of Russians are afraid of debts. In USA you spend 30k, declare bancruptcy and go free, in Russia they will take all your stuff and put you in jail.

2. Russians do not pay for porn because its a luxury entertainment. You can still see free stuff online and first thing they care is food and vodka, really there is no middle class but poor and 0,5% rich.

3. Cyberxxx is offended and he pointed why ( jews, italians and so on... ). But my experience tells me that for a reason Western world accepts Colombian drug dealers better then Russians. Why? Because STEALING is worse then
"HONEST" drug dealing.

I remember seeing some oddball countries on Verotel - it's obvious from the signup emails showing blank or bogus addresses that they have a much weaker scrub. Had a signup from India and once even Korea. Can't recall seeing any from RU though :)

It comes down to one thing guys. The same reason no one in Poland pays for porn sites.

Why on earth would I pay $30 for a membership, when for $20 I can go fuck a real hooker?

What about Tomcki Team sites? From what I hear they are pretty successfull.

Everything is correct, but you forgot something:
1) Balalaika
2) Bears
3) Endless Polar night

What a nonsense! Didn't you confuse Russia with Dubai or Saudi Arabia, huh? Care to show an appropriate criminal article? I suggest to change your nick name to Thoughtmix which describes you better :pimp

To the others: no one will send you to jail if you can't return a credit (say $30k). The bailiffs may arrest some of your property which is not considered as life-essential one, e.g.: a car, a TV set, a computer, a guitar etc until you won't return the credit. However they can't arrest your apartments/house (if you have only one) etc. This is how it works in Russia.

And these are words of an Ukrainian nationalist - the guy who bows to Bandera, Ukrainian Nazi Waffen SS, and who hates Russians and Jews only because they are exist on the planet Earth.

As far as I know, this sort of "people" is rotten even more than anybody else, because on one hand, they love their motherland (in his case it's Ukraine) and sincerely hate everyone who "didn't let make it free" (in his case it's Soviet Army which has beaten Ukrainian Waffen SS troops during WWII). But on another hand... he run away from his lovely country for a "better life" somewhere else (in his case in Europe).

It always freaks me out when I hear a word "HONEST" from such two-faced nationalist pieces of shit.

A dishonest person will always scream about honesty louder than anyone else, like the pickpocket always screams: "after the thief!" and shows with his finger in someone's direction.

If some one here who I had/has a business with can call me a dishonest person, let the he/she step ahead and tell about at least a single case when I has cheated him or her (stole the money, did my job bad etc).

Everything else is just a nationalistic bullshit like any conclusion which was made about somebody according his nationality only :2 cents:

If the company accepts more people as customers, the company will make more profits. A lot of the time, it could be a language problem. If the company can communicate in more languages, it can accept more customers. The currencies and payment methods could also be different. If the company has more currencies and payment methods, the company will make more profits.

Americans dropped NUKE on peaceful civilians.
So, what do you mean?

Bullshit!

I'm also really sorry I was rude when quoted your posts. Seems we just misunderstood each other.

My father lives in Russia so I know a bit about it. Spot on about debit cards. But I see the fact that they don't have Credit cards as a big advantage, CCs are actually bad economy. It is close to impossible to get a mortgage in Russia, but it's also a good thing. It's probably the reason why Russia has a $ 380 bil. stabilization fund and UK & US have trillions of national debt.

I also heard that pensioners live below poverty line in Russia etc. But I have just helped my father to pick a new laptop and he is a pensioner and he doesn't live in Moscow. So I don't buy that.

The reason why Russians don't pay for porn is that you can freely download anything you want from the torrent network. I believe it is considered ridiculous there.

you don't read the news of your own country?

"Russian Cyber Attacks Shut Down Georgian Websites"
http://www.crn.com/news/security/210...n-websites.htm

"Estonia hit by 'Moscow cyber war'"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6665145.stm

want more? learn to google.
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...n+cyber+attack

Russia was the top cyber crime country before China opened up their net.

im not making this shit up. obviously.

In Russia paysite join YOU

agent 488 beat you to it
he runs this joint

Who cares about 1000's civilians nuked in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Who cares about 1000's of women and children raped and killed in Iraq and Afghanistan just for fun? Because (!!!now read carefully!!!) "Russia was the top cyber crime country before China opened up their net.", "Russian Cyber Attacks Shut Down Georgian Websites" and (OMFG!!!) "Estonia hit by 'Moscow cyber war'"!!! Now I believe that Russia is the most aggressive country on the planet!

http://www.amyvangsgard.com/images/CryingGirl.jpg

That post about bloody Russian cyber attacks was just AWESOME! plsureking, you made my day babe! :1orglaugh Keep posting! :pimp

hey genius the thread is about the web. some dumbass made it about nukes because there's no defense for Russian criminals on the web. even your government is involved in cybercrime.

case closed.

Moron, the thread is about Russians that do or do not join paysites. Buy eyeglasses or learn your fucking English.

Just because some idiot was trying to made it about "cyber war".

Like in any other country. Don't you really think that your government was not involved into all those anti-civilian crimes and murderers in Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan?

There is no "case" at all, weak-headed. The only object that you can close is your own mouth. As about this thread so I will decide should I continue posting in it or not.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

There are some other things, not mentioned yet.
1. Western companies do not offer good Russian versions of their paysites. English is not very popular among most Russian people, it's very hard for them to understand videos from reality sites, for example. Well, some specific niches could be interesting for Russians too, so maybe they would pay even for pure English version...
But...
2. All billers have very bad experience with purchases from Russia/Ukraine etc. Too many carders, frauders, scammers, cheaters etc. They just don't want to fight with chargebacks, it's much easier for them to block all Russian/Ukrainian attempts - they might lose 0.01% in customers, but they save way more really in all investigation efforts etc.

I don't tell all Russians are cheaters, there are many honest webmasters/businessmen from former USSR. But still very bad experience...