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Tempest 09-25-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 17538608)
I'm going for cashx.com and okpay.com

CashX looks like the best out of all of these soloutions though. And the banking system they have in place appears to be a lot safer than what the other systems are using.

hmmmm.. I never really looked at CashX.. The name just made it sound like some sleazy operation that wanted to say XXX but decided to just go with the single X. LOL..

However, I finally had a look at it seems a lot better than I thought... And in fact it apprears they're Canadian and in fact just a few hours drive from me. Seems odd that they'd be in Vernon instead of Vancouver or Victoria.

Have they ever made an anouncement on here and said who they really are, who their banks are, where they're all located, who's behind the company, what their history is and whether or not they understand/know the adult business or not?

Si 09-25-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17539167)

Have they ever made an anouncement on here and said who they really are, who their banks are, where they're all located, who's behind the company, what their history is and whether or not they understand/know the adult business or not?

Yes, search for the user CashX or the other thread i started titles "another payment alternative - cash x"

They have banks set-up in canada, us, uk, and australia I believe is what I read.

Let me try and find you the link

Si 09-25-2010 10:42 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=987950

Thats the CashX thread

Tempest 09-25-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 17539211)
Yes, search for the user CashX or the other thread i started titles "another payment alternative - cash x"

They have banks set-up in canada, us, uk, and australia I believe is what I read.

Let me try and find you the link

Yeah, I went thru that.. But that was you talking about them, not them making their own announcement with all the pertinent info we'd be interested in.

The one issue with pretty much all of the choices out there is that they're not industry people... Now some might say that could be a benefit. However, if you're in the industry, then you'll at least attempt to make sure everything you've set up will handle adult businesses in terms of your banking arrangements etc. If you're an outsider, then it's not as much of a concern and so you wouldn't put in the extra effort to keep that alive if the shit hit the fan. There's a big difference between going to a bank and saying we're dealing with "porn", would you partner with us, as opposed to getting into the porn biz and then letting your bank know after the fact.

CashX 09-25-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17539229)
Yeah, I went thru that.. But that was you talking about them, not them making their own announcement with all the pertinent info we'd be interested in.

The one issue with pretty much all of the choices out there is that they're not industry people... Now some might say that could be a benefit. However, if you're in the industry, then you'll at least attempt to make sure everything you've set up will handle adult businesses in terms of your banking arrangements etc. If you're an outsider, then it's not as much of a concern and so you wouldn't put in the extra effort to keep that alive if the shit hit the fan. There's a big difference between going to a bank and saying we're dealing with "porn", would you partner with us, as opposed to getting into the porn biz and then letting your bank know after the fact.

We are in the "Payment Processing Industry" and that is what your want! So we do know what types of industries that we can process for and what banks are open to this type of business.

Chris 09-25-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CashX (Post 17539370)
We are in the "Payment Processing Industry" and that is what your want! So we do know what types of industries that we can process for and what banks are open to this type of business.

By industry people - he means a company ran by people who know this industry and what we need. Epassporte WAS that. Now we feel we can be that.

Dreamteam 09-27-2010 08:37 AM

Ill give paxum a bump here :)


Great system guys ... congrats

Rui 09-27-2010 09:32 AM

This reminds me of the abused housewife that keeps coming back for more...

Some people never learn.

Also wouldn't put Payoneer on the same page as Paxum, the first is broadly used and has a reputation (despite shitty support) and is used by many mainstream programs..the 2nd..well don't even want to get into it..

Si 09-27-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui (Post 17544582)
This reminds me of the abused housewife that keeps coming back for more...

Some people never learn.

Also wouldn't put Payoneer on the same page as Paxum, the first is broadly used and has a reputation (despite shitty support) and is used by many mainstream programs..the 2nd..well don't even want to get into it..

Good point on payoneer, they do have a good rep.

But no easy to use P2P system and shit support put me right off them.

signupdamnit 09-27-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17537816)
It is a real pain in the ass for webmasters in foreign countries to fuck with checks, are you out of the loop?

I would probably set my minimum payment at $1,000 and opt for a wire rather than use these guys. Bad vibes. That still leaves the p2p issue I realize.

Tjeezers 09-27-2010 09:56 AM

payoneer has her own forum
some should really take their heads out of their asses
GFY is not a central place for everyones business

All the other card services are mushrooms after the rain
No way i would trust Cashx or Puxy whatever his name is

Payoneer serves more then 3 years the adult industry now. Point

signupdamnit 09-27-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycastor (Post 17538211)
im still waiting for a 500$ naughty america cheque and since 2 years they telling me they send it out next week ..such things never happend with epass

They've always paid me. I just received a check today in fact. Now I have noticed some subtle changes there which give me a slight bad vibe but overall they still pay and conversions are reasonable. They used to be hands down the best sponsor for affiliates large and small many years ago. I'd say you still can't go wrong with them. :2 cents: Get in touch with them again and ask them to fix it.

willwank 09-27-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 17544677)
payoneer has her own forum
some should really take their heads out of their asses
GFY is not a central place for everyones business

All the other card services are mushrooms after the rain
No way i would trust Cashx or Puxy whatever his name is

Payoneer serves more then 3 years the adult industry now. Point

Yes, yes and yes. Payoneer will most likely be #1 in the que after ePass. I'm more interested in what 2nd and perhaps 3rd alternative sponsors will offer. Personally I will never sign up with Payoneer and will slash any marginal sponsor without any alternative payments where wire is not an option. Providing proper due diligence is done, adding a second or a third option should not be a huge deal for a sponsor.

Dreamteam 09-27-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui (Post 17544582)
This reminds me of the abused housewife that keeps coming back for more...

Some people never learn.

Also wouldn't put Payoneer on the same page as Paxum, the first is broadly used and has a reputation (despite shitty support) and is used by many mainstream programs..the 2nd..well don't even want to get into it..

Well then stay on checks man ... small-minded, but hey it's your business :)

Agent 488 09-27-2010 11:05 AM

i guess payoneer head was in amsterdam talking to programs. tons will be going with them.

we need one or two replacements instead of a half dozen shady ones that popped up the last two weeks.

Rui 09-27-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17544899)
Well then stay on checks man ... small-minded, but hey it's your business :)

Checks?? :1orglaugh

You should learn a bit more about Europe ;) :2 cents:

Agent 488 09-27-2010 11:13 AM

be realistic. is a program going to risk loading 100k into a company run out of a po box? or whose partners are nigerian and russian? get all the cards you want sent out but if no program supports them who gives a fuck?

Dreamteam 09-27-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui (Post 17544925)
Checks?? :1orglaugh

You should learn a bit more about Europe ;) :2 cents:

1. Why should I learn more about europe? Please explain.
2. When ya can withdrawal $2500 a day from ATM then the risk is low.

Just my :2 cents:

Dreamteam 09-27-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17544938)
be realistic. is a program going to risk loading 100k into a company run out of a po box? or whose partners are nigerian and russian? get all the cards you want sent out but if no program supports them who gives a fuck?

And that info is based on what? .. Your imagination? :1orglaugh

Paxum is ok. Believe it or not, I don't care

By the way, I know several programs already who going to start payouts thru paxum. Sorry mate.

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willwank 09-27-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17544916)

we need one

err! We need at least two, preferably three serious players. Have you learned nothing?

Agent 488 09-27-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17544966)
And that info is based on what? .. Your imagination? :1orglaugh

Paxum is ok. Believe it or not, I don't care

point is if no program trusts these companies with their money who cares? you and your gfy buddies going to send money back and forth to each other? whoopee.

livesexoncams 09-27-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17544916)
we need one or two replacements instead of a half dozen shady ones that popped up the last two weeks.

I totally agree with you! :thumbsup

Chris 09-27-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17544938)
be realistic. is a program going to risk loading 100k into a company run out of a po box? or whose partners are nigerian and russian? get all the cards you want sent out but if no program supports them who gives a fuck?

What in the world are you talking about.......

Agent 488 09-27-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17544991)
What in the world are you talking about.......

you = po box.

okpay = nigerian and russian partners.

Dreamteam 09-27-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17544977)
point is if no program trusts these companies with their money who cares? you and your gfy buddies going to send money back and forth to each other? whoopee.

Well, several sponsors signed up with paxum already ... and I know several other sponsors who going to sign up with paxum shortly. :thumbsup

Denis_SC 09-27-2010 11:37 AM

Have been waiting for reply to my e-mail from Payoneer account manager for 5 days now .... :Oh crap (Haven't been able to get a hold of her on her phone either)
Regular stuff that answers their phone as a customer support, can't give answers to a basic questions. :helpme

RuthB 09-27-2010 12:02 PM

Smashbucks and Vidz.com are both on board with Paxum. :thumbsup

RuthB 09-27-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Denis_SC (Post 17545013)
Have been waiting for reply to my e-mail from Payoneer account manager for 5 days now .... :Oh crap (Haven't been able to get a hold of her on her phone either)
Regular stuff that answers their phone as a customer support, can't give answers to a basic questions. :helpme

hey Denis.. if you have any questions about Paxum please feel free to get in touch. I'd be happy to help you out

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

Ruth :thumbsup

Chris 09-27-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Denis_SC (Post 17545013)
Have been waiting for reply to my e-mail from Payoneer account manager for 5 days now .... :Oh crap (Haven't been able to get a hold of her on her phone either)
Regular stuff that answers their phone as a customer support, can't give answers to a basic questions. :helpme

You should give us a call over here at Paxum.com - We would of had your questions answered in 5 minutes :)

bolsex 09-27-2010 12:12 PM

I use Payoneer! only as an alternative method of ePass, not as a bank account.
If you are planning to get your funds as a bank account, it has some risk, but if you just get the transfer, and go to the ATM and withdrawal it, what is the risk?
Using the point of view, you can use any method, as soon as sponsors use them to pay!

I know a guy who had money in ePass for 4 months! I still can understand why he didnt withdraw one cent from the ATM. He has all the money in VV now, frozen...

tomsexy 09-27-2010 12:19 PM

I like payoner :D

Unlimited 09-27-2010 12:35 PM

I like CashX :pimp

Si 09-27-2010 12:56 PM

CashX

OKPay

Paxum

Payoneer

Others.....

Tempest 09-27-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 17545282)
CashX

OKPay

Paxum

Payoneer

Others.....

I'd be concerned about OkPay as it says in their TOS that they'll do gambling.

mikoleg 09-27-2010 01:21 PM

US checks are processed more then 4-6 months in Europe, so comparing to 5 seconds withdraw from ATM...

Adam_M 09-27-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17544955)
1. Why should I learn more about europe? Please explain.
2. When ya can withdrawal $2500 a day from ATM then the risk is low.

Just my :2 cents:

I got a check from a US sponsor last week and because it's over $10k it is going to take 12 fucking weeks to clear :Oh crap

BSleazy 09-27-2010 02:15 PM

People aren't going to get fucked that bad again by any of these places because hopefully they've learned not to leave all that money in their accounts. If one of these newer places goes under a year or so for now it won't be so bad if you have like $50 in there compared to $5000 or some higher ridiculous amount if you know what I mean.

Chezter 09-27-2010 02:45 PM

Just created payoneer account, I just need something like this even I know I could lose some money, but with checks I'm losing money with every single one of them.


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