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09-24-2010, 12:03 PM | #1 |
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XBIZ NEWS: Ventura Content, Mansef Reach Deal in Tube Site Suit
XBIZ NEWS: Ventura Content, Mansef Reach Deal in Tube Site Suit
NEW YORK ? Pink Visual parent company Ventura Content and Mansef apparently have reached a settlement deal in the $6.75 copyright suit over Mansef tube sites, XBIZ has learned. http://www.xbiz.com/news/125552 |
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$6.75 lawsuit?
What did they settle for? $2.95? |
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There was high hopes for Pink Visual with this suit. Business as usual will continue.
Does anyone in this business have the moxie to follow through with anything other than being a scammer or a thief? Wondering how Pink Visuals anti-piracy meeting is going to go now that everyone knows they sold out. |
09-24-2010, 12:11 PM | #4 |
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Hey TopBucks/Pink Visual!
Fuck You. Seriously. I have no hopes for anything. You are now part of the problem. Congratulations on settling with Satan. |
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This is where you send your reps into suck some cock and try to spin it into something it isn't. |
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You don't even know what they settled for, so not sure how you hate on them for it...
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LOL this industry is incredible. The company who is hosting a confab of the most top notch standup companies and individuals to brainstorm how to fight this industry's greatest scourge, piracy, reaches a settlement with the company that is the worst offender.
only in the bizarro world of online porn Pink Visual, the Neville Chamberlain of porn
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Just out of curiousity..have you taken the gamble in investing any over any of your hard earned dollars to fork over to expensive lawyers to try to be apart of the "solution"?
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This is why scammers keep scamming. Because there is no recourse. |
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The Xbiz report is inaccurate. No further comments will be made.
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Ya just read through the xbiz article and am a little dissapointed in the lack of journalism ethics. At the very least.. back up one or two "claims" with actual quotes.
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NEW YORK — Pink Visual parent company Ventura Content and Mansef apparently have reached a settlement deal in the $6.75 million copyright suit over Mansef tube sites, XBIZ has learned
Attorneys from both sides filed a discontinuance order and will meet in U.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin's chambers on Oct. 7. Schendlin, who signed the order, said that counsel from either side can apply to restore the case by Oct. 4. Terms of the apparent settlement were not disclosed at post time. Ventura Content officials declined comment on the news; Mansef officials did not immediately respond for queries. In the suit, Ventura Content maintains Montreal-based Mansef Inc. permitted users to upload and download infringing 45 Pink Visual-copyrighted videos seen on company tube sites KeezMovies.com, PornHub.com, ExtremeTube.com and Tube8.com. Pink Visual’s complaint, filed at U.S. District Court in New York, alleges that the defendants are not only aware of infringing content being uploaded to their sites, but that they “actively engage in, promote and induce this infringement.” “[T]he emergence of these tube sites operated by defendants and others threatens not just [Pink Visual], but the entire adult entertainment industry,” Ventura Content said in its original complaint. Mansef, meanwhile, said Ventura Content, never showed definitive ownership with respect to the copyright registrations, 22 of which are compilations and don't satisfy the requirements of copyright law under civil-infringement actions. Further, Mansef attorneys told a federal judge that the company has no control over the source of the content that users post on websites and that it complied with Ventura Content's request to take down videos on eight separate occasions within 24 hours of receiving those notices. Litigation between the parties ramped up after February's action by Ventura Content was filed, with Mansef responding with it's own civil federal suit. In a second suit, which was waged by Mansef and still on-going, Pink Visual's parent company and its Denali Holdings unit were sued for copyright infringement from the alleged use of Brazzers' trademark. Mansef said the defendants have purchased from Internet search engines such as Google keywords containing various permutations of the word Brazzers, knowing that Brazzers is the plaintiff’s well-known brand and with deliberate intent to harm plaintiffs. In addition to copyright infringement, Mansef also claims trademark infringement and unfair competition. XBIZ will add additional details and commentary to this story as it becomes available. |
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Quoting myself since someone posted the article.
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Allison this is GFY, facts directly from the source don't matter here...
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A settlement means that Mansef/Manwin PAID A SETTLEMENT.
That's GREAT news you guys! Sets yet another precedent. All these fucking pirates are going to be "settling" soon. |
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the fact the principal in the article says its inaccurate.
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Odd. Did you settle or not? |
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Do you guys have Allison the president of Topbucks on ignore?
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that's not a fact. just sayin. if xbiz got it wrong, that's quite an egregious error. esp. in light of the article being pretty detailed, i.e. mentioning a discontinuance, no comment from ventura, etc. et al, on & on. |
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If a news media reported a story on my company incorrectly, you can bet I would correct it ASAP.
All we need to know is, did they settle or not? Simple YES or NO answer. This simple one word answer will explain everything. |
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No, my point was to the people in here attacking Pink Visual IF a settlement is reached.
A settlement is EXACTLY what should happen. Over and over and over again. And if it does happen it's because Fabian/Nathan's attorney are telling him the facts...he is going to LOSE if it goes to court and it will cost more than settling out of court. PornHub will either clean up their act or get drilled over and over and over again by all of us who grab a lawyer and go after them. That was my point. I wasn't reacting to Allison's response based on their attorney wanting to make sure that it's publicly acknowledged that Pink Visual did not leak anything from the negotiations. |
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i'll tell you this, even though i don't know wtf is going on after reading this thread-
if i were ventura, i'd be fucking pissed off if xbiz doesn't retract that piece asap if it's wrong. they have a lot at stake, the 2 lawsuits, the anti-piracy get-together........ |
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the facts are in motion...
dont worry, they are safe and will land on xbiz email account very soon... . |
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If the report was completely wrong, surely you'd issue a denial? If it were true, surely you'd confirm it, or not comment but without the caveat that the report is inaccurate? So I'm guessing you're currently negotiating a settlement with them, but nothing has been signed yet. |
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A 2 - 3 million dollar settlement vs Mansef dropping their suit against Pink Visual for a trademark violation, is quite a difference. |
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I blame the tubes
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Of course..XBiz ain't exactly real journalists as Allison already pointed out that they are inaccurate in their report. |
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However, the settlement could just be than Mansef will drop their suit against them, if they drop their suit against Mansef. |
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Honestly up until now I've always viewed XBIZ as one of the most legitimate news resources in our industry. It would be nice to have at least one legitimate news resource for our community instead of a bunch of tabloid/gossip forums.
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this. perhaps waiting for the counter suit to be dropped. who knows........ |
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Does XBiz have real "reporters"? Are they there on the scene covering the "story" No. They pretty much print "press releases" put out by companies and write opinion pieces based on gossip. Nothing wrong with that. 9 times out of 10 they are on the money or pretty close. But I don't see how or why anybody would want to try and base their business on real news reporting in the adult industry. We are an entertainment business. And we should be covered for the most part just the way XBiz does. As entertainment. When Dan Rather comes out of retirement and joins XBiz as a reporter instead of guys with funny aliases for names as reporters...then I'll believe it. heh-heh |
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But you're right in that mainstream journalism isn't based on old school journalism ethics anymore either. This is why we have so many brainwashed idiots in our country that are too lazy to think for themselves. |
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Dude, people are pissed because of the settlement (if it is). It not going to solve anything. They need to take the site down. Don't you see why people are mad? A settlement doesn't imply they will clean up. Last time I check PH is still same old.
Your contents on tube are not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is as long as these tube exist, it will give the impression to other people that they can just open up an illegal tube without needing to worry. You need to freak the shit out of them to stop producing tube. You need to choke PH to give a message to the rest to clean up their act and other from converting their mgp/tgp to illegal tube. Quote:
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Settlements will clean them up. Bet your ass that Pink Visual's stuff would come down and never go back up. Also bet your ass that every content producer will go after them the same way. They will clean up or go bankrupt
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No smart people go after their host. I can bet my big ass that as long as you sue them to take your content down it not going to solve your problem.
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No, smart people go after the money.
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Ya and most of them fail and then if they do succeed they find their stuff up another tube site and then another and keep playing cat and mouse.
All money go to happy lawyers. Ask Shap if he taken down hardsextube.com, lawyers is what eat all your money. |
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It doesn't matter. Just watch what happens. EDIT: By the way...my attorneys and the hundreds of others who are jumping on the anti-piracy lawsuit bandwagon are all working for a percentage of the WIN. Doesn't cost me one thin dime. And everything we are making off of these thieves is pure profit. They are ALL going to pay for what they did over the last couple of years. Trust me. |
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I hope so too. I'm waiting and watching. But it has become painfully obvious that the shit that pirates were doing couldn't go on forever. Hope they enjoyed their money grab while it lasted.
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how is a settlement a bad thing, u settle for 1.5 million people find out, everyone is going to be coming out the woodwork good bye tubes
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wouldn't the only bad conclusion be a not guilty?
settlement = good, the more the better guilty = good, precedent set, remove content, the more the better not guilty = |
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