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klinton 09-24-2010 09:59 AM

i agree that it was inside job....to get oil...throw fear and make people think that the war is right...

it's easy.....

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535881)
Why would Bush or Clinton or whoever supposedly conspired not just get 20 guys to crash the planes?

I mean look, ALL of the theories out there would require hundreds or thousands of people to be perfectly 100% complicit and secret for the rest of their lives. Not to mention some of them require technical accomplishments not possible.

How can an intelligent person not think it's even a BIT far fetched? Why not get 20 emotional retards to do it? I mean seriously, WHY NOT just get 20 assholes to do it? Please dont say you couldnt trust 20 people to do it, so instead they got thousands. Please.

if there is an attack on our soil, wouldn't you want people asking questions about who could be apart of it, on our side, on the inside? there was obviously some hiccups.

The Duck 09-24-2010 10:07 AM

Say what you want about this man but it takes some serious balls to bring this to the light of the UN.

Tom_PM 09-24-2010 10:07 AM

It's so easy.. that it's sophistry.

I will say that the lack of attention given to the terror warnings by Bush is criminal negligence to the umpteenth degree. Someone might even convince me that it was allowed to happen with the right documents and smoking gun memos or something. But planting explosives? crashing planes? Editing video's while it's LIVE on television? Faking phone calls from the plane and impersonating loved ones saying goodbye?
Please.


I'm not saying "dont even ask questions". I'm saying be intellectually honest with your questions and reading of answers. WHY would you not just get 20 assholes to fly planes into these buildings? Why?

moeloubani 09-24-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535881)
Why would Bush or Clinton or whoever supposedly conspired not just get 20 guys to crash the planes?

I mean look, ALL of the theories out there would require hundreds or thousands of people to be perfectly 100% complicit and secret for the rest of their lives. Not to mention some of them require technical accomplishments not possible.

How can an intelligent person not think it's even a BIT far fetched? Why not get 20 emotional retards to do it? I mean seriously, WHY NOT just get 20 assholes to do it? Please dont say you couldnt trust 20 people to do it, so instead they got thousands. Please.

Consider if the guys themselves had wanted to do this - but they never would have been able to with the resources they had. I mean come on, a rag tag bunch of dudes doing simultaneous attacks around the world, all using box cutters they took down 4 planes where on your average street a guy will fight a dude with a box cutter for $2.

But what if someone offered them the planning they needed or the money they needed or some key intel? That's where the conspiracy lies, not in the sense that the people doing it themselves were US guys but rather it was a US/Israeli funded operation.

Is that THAT far fetched considering the only country in the world to actually gain from this whole mess is Israel?

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535945)
It's so easy.. that it's sophistry.

I will say that the lack of attention given to the terror warnings by Bush is criminal negligence to the umpteenth degree. Someone might even convince me that it was allowed to happen with the right documents and smoking gun memos or something. But planting explosives? crashing planes? Editing video's while it's LIVE on television? Faking phone calls from the plane and impersonating loved ones saying goodbye?
Please.


I'm not saying "dont even ask questions". I'm saying be intellectually honest with your questions and reading of answers. WHY would you not just get 20 assholes to fly planes into these buildings? Why?

because 20 assholes would probably have a problem slaughtering other people, and they would probably fuck it up anyway.

Tom_PM 09-24-2010 10:15 AM

As I say, I'd be more inclined to believe it was ALLOWED to happen whether or not a word was whispered years priior or whatever (I alread know it WAS allowed to happen due to Bush's idiot people ignoring direct warnings!). But these damn theories about explosives, and mystery items being dropped by satellites and live editing of live tv? That stuff has got to be thrown out entirely. It's just beyond absurd.

To me it's like having enough evidence already, but trying to prove satan posessed someone too. It's too far fetched. When you're winning, you stop talking.

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)
As I say, I'd be more inclined to believe it was ALLOWED to happen whether or not a word was whispered years priior or whatever (I alread know it WAS allowed to happen due to Bush's idiot people ignoring direct warnings!). But these damn theories about explosives, and mystery items being dropped by satellites and live editing of live tv? That stuff has got to be thrown out entirely. It's just beyond absurd.

To me it's like having enough evidence already, but trying to prove satan posessed someone too. It's too far fetched. When you're winning, you stop talking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)
When you're winning, you stop talking.

not when there are still millions/billions believing a lie.

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535945)
It's so easy.. that it's sophistry.

I will say that the lack of attention given to the terror warnings by Bush is criminal negligence to the umpteenth degree. Someone might even convince me that it was allowed to happen with the right documents and smoking gun memos or something. But planting explosives? crashing planes? Editing video's while it's LIVE on television? Faking phone calls from the plane and impersonating loved ones saying goodbye?
Please.


I'm not saying "dont even ask questions". I'm saying be intellectually honest with your questions and reading of answers. WHY would you not just get 20 assholes to fly planes into these buildings? Why?

wait, because you don't believe thousands of people were involved, somehow everyone else does?

who cares about video editing? lets talk about how they had the data to drill for emergencies that occur the same day?

who is asking those questions?

Tom_PM 09-24-2010 10:31 AM

Well, I recall seeing a documentary on the run up to the US involvment in WW2 that showed pretty clearly in documented radio calls that we knew the Japanese fleet had launched long range bombers and escorts.

The US was not going to get into it until we were attacked. And we were attacked and we then got involved.

Now I dont think the British painted up some planes to look like Japanese planes, but they were utterly desperate for the US to do more than send them hardware across the atlantic. So what if someone tried saying that the british painted red dots and it was actually them who bombed us? They'd say stfu. But if you show them the internal documents from the radio man in pearl harbour asking washington for direction re: incoming bombers, people will believe it.

Few people will even pay attention to the story if the preceeding 1000 stories are all about crazy impossible theories.

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17536038)
Well, I recall seeing a documentary on the run up to the US involvment in WW2 that showed pretty clearly in documented radio calls that we knew the Japanese fleet had launched long range bombers and escorts.

The US was not going to get into it until we were attacked. And we were attacked and we then got involved.

Now I dont think the British painted up some planes to look like Japanese planes, but they were utterly desperate for the US to do more than send them hardware across the atlantic. So what if someone tried saying that the british painted red dots and it was actually them who bombed us? They'd say stfu. But if you show them the internal documents from the radio man in pearl harbour asking washington for direction re: incoming bombers, people will believe it.

Few people will even pay attention to the story if the preceeding 1000 stories are all about crazy impossible theories.

funny you'd use that example, when you could have used the example of how the US got dragged into the first world war, which has actually been proven.

Tom_PM 09-24-2010 10:35 AM

I dont know about emergency drills, and I would have no problem with an entire expose on the topic on live tv. I dont want to shut down any investigation. I'm only saying lets not waste effort on things that will never fly.

There was a video posted here before 9/11 this year and part of it was saying that someone LIVE edited a shot of the WTC because there was cloudiness in the background, whereas in previous views there was buildings. Well, if you ever look at the actual footage from 9/11/01, the fog was thick over the water and some of the views from higher up featuered the foggy background, and other views from lower showed the buildings. Debunked simply by watching the real footage. Yet someone actually used time and effort and tried to convince people it HAD TO BE edited live.

Tom_PM 09-24-2010 10:37 AM

The point of my example was to show if someone tried to make impossible theories, it would ONLY serve to cloud things. Not clear them.

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17536054)
I dont know about emergency drills, and I would have no problem with an entire expose on the topic on live tv. I dont want to shut down any investigation. I'm only saying lets not waste effort on things that will never fly.

There was a video posted here before 9/11 this year and part of it was saying that someone LIVE edited a shot of the WTC because there was cloudiness in the background, whereas in previous views there was buildings. Well, if you ever look at the actual footage from 9/11/01, the fog was thick over the water and some of the views from higher up featuered the foggy background, and other views from lower showed the buildings. Debunked simply by watching the real footage. Yet someone actually used time and effort and tried to convince people it HAD TO BE edited live.

i hear you, and i am still in the camp of 'if i had to debunk a lot of opinions and theories, i'd make up even crazier opinions and theories'

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17536063)
The point of my example was to show if someone tried to make impossible theories, it would ONLY serve to cloud things. Not clear them.

that is my point, the lid coming off any sort of inside job would be bad for everybody, especially the government.

one couldn't erase a reality, there would be distraction, or the easiest way it seems, cloud fact and fiction so much no one cares anymore

wig 09-24-2010 10:43 AM

Or, you could take Hanlon's Razor...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wig (Post 17536084)
Or, you could take Hanlon's Razor...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

good point, either way, it's a need to know type thing.

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17536074)
that is my point, the lid coming off any sort of inside job would be bad for everybody, especially the government.

one couldn't erase a reality, there would be distraction, or the easiest way it seems, cloud fact and fiction so much no one cares anymore

exactly.

people should keep asking who has the most to lose by the truth coming out.

wig 09-24-2010 10:58 AM

It makes more sense to me that hijackers planned and executed the attack.

It is very easy to say in retrospect the Gov't knew, or should have known or was in on it based on circumstantial pieces of data.

wig 09-24-2010 11:02 AM

Do you know how we know that the Bush administration was not in on the attack?

It worked.











tired joke, but couldn't resist.

_Richard_ 09-24-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wig (Post 17536174)
Do you know how we know that the Bush administration was not in on the attack?

It worked.












tired joke, but couldn't resist.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

terrible

DamnGoodRatio 09-24-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexchechs (Post 17535860)
One day the truth will come out and history will be re-written. Until that day all we can do is speculate.

Either way it was a very tragic event and changed the role and credibility of the US in international politics forever.

You really believe the "Truth" will come out 1 day. You are sadly mistaken!
Has The Kennedy assassination "Truth" come out?
Has the World War 2 earl harbor "Truth" come out?
Has the Area 51 "Truth" come out.

Until you believe what is written about something the "Truth" has not come out in your mind.

Accept what you will and question everything else, but as to the "Truth" it is what you believe the "Truth" is.

2012 09-24-2010 05:20 PM

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Zippidee dOODAH !

Slutboat 09-24-2010 05:36 PM

nice post 2012

Vendzilla 09-24-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)
(I alread know it WAS allowed to happen due to Bush's idiot people ignoring direct warnings!).
.

He wasn't the only one
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/

PornoStar69 09-24-2010 06:09 PM

False Flag terror attack - google Operation Northwoods

New World Order

ILLUMINATI control ALL SIDES even the pope - thats their little ACE


Fake alien invasion = 2012

Slutboat 09-24-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 17535901)
i agree that it was inside job....to get oil...throw fear and make people think that the war is right...

it's easy.....


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The Demon 09-24-2010 06:15 PM

There's something humorous about slutboat being the voice of reason on this forum.

2012 09-24-2010 06:21 PM

:helpme


Agent 488 09-24-2010 06:35 PM

the 9/11 truth movement is a US government controlled black op - but these new statements are interesting ...

SallyRand 09-24-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17531286)
U.S. walks out on truth at U.N. - Sep 2010
U.S.: Ahmadinejad 'delusional' for citing those who believe U.S. was behind attacks

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/C...p.grid-8x2.jpg
[LINKHOTTNESS]
Diplomats walk out of the U.N. General Assembly in New York during the speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday.

UNITED NATIONS ? The U.S. and European delegations walked out of the U.N. speech of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday after he said most people believe the U.S. government was behind the Sept. 11 terror attacks in order to assure Israel's survival. Ahmadinejad said it was mostly U.S. government officials who believed a terrorist group was behind the suicide hijacking attacks that brought down New York's World Trade Center and hit the Pentagon.

Another theory, he said, was "that some segments within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining American economy, and its grips on the Middle East, in order to save the Zionist regime."

"The majority of the American people as well as most nations and politicians around the world agree with this view," Ahmadinejad told the 192-nation assembly. The U.S. and several European delegations left shortly after Ahmadinejad made the remarks.

LINK

Oh, PULLEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The US delagation walked out on a dangerously sociopathic nutball who was in the midst of a psychotic rant and near incoherent babbling and I'd have walked out also. Why anyone gives that goofy bastard AKMAJINABOOB the time of day is beyond me!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

minicivan 09-24-2010 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wig (Post 17536084)
Or, you could take Hanlon's Razor...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Or Occams Razor....

"the simplest explanation is usually the correct one"

Agent 488 09-24-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17537601)
Oh, PULLEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The US delagation walked out on a dangerously sociopathic nutball who was in the midst of a psychotic rant and near incoherent babbling and I'd have walked out also. Why anyone gives that goofy bastard AKMAJINABOOB the time of day is beyond me!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

how big is your nose?

just sayin'.

:):)

opflix 09-24-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17535844)
you are living a lie.

co-signed. :2 cents: its sad how many people will believe anything the 'authorities' tell them without question. :Oh crap

2012 09-24-2010 06:54 PM

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Martin 09-24-2010 07:04 PM

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 09-24-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17531531)
I think it was like Pearl Harbor. They knew it was coming, and they let it happen, cause they needed the populous to OK going to war.

That's generally the view I have on the whole situation. They knew what was coming, they just let it happen. Did they orchestrate the whole thing? I highly doubt that. But it doesn't take to many people in the intelligence arena to decide upon ignoring their intel. Doesn't need to be a gigantic cover up, when a few people at the top can keep things from moving forward in the early stage of the game.

The thing that makes me chuckle is that a country estimated to have upwards of 10,000 active and inactive nuclear weapons in their stockpile has any grounds to complain about anyone else dabbling in nuclear tech. The country with the most WMDs, and the only one to have technically used one, are the one's bitching and complaining about others having them the most. Makes perfect sense...

The Demon 09-24-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

its sad how many people will believe anything the 'authorities' tell them without question.
Leave it to the porn industry to play conspiracy theorists and actually have the balls to make fun of those who assume the obvious happened, rather than "LOLZ INSIDE JOB!!"

Martin 09-24-2010 07:33 PM


CheeseFrog 09-24-2010 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)
As I say, I'd be more inclined to believe it was ALLOWED to happen whether or not a word was whispered years priior or whatever (I alread know it WAS allowed to happen due to Bush's idiot people ignoring direct warnings!). But these damn theories about explosives, and mystery items being dropped by satellites and live editing of live tv? That stuff has got to be thrown out entirely. It's just beyond absurd.

To me it's like having enough evidence already, but trying to prove satan posessed someone too. It's too far fetched. When you're winning, you stop talking.

When you're orchestrating something on this level, you can never be too sure. Did you notice that in the live feeds on 9/11 right before the planes hit there was a "blip" in all video feeds? It's widely speculated that they spliced in CGI footage of airplanes hitting the towers to 1) cover up any uncontrolled secondary explosions from the pre-planted demolitions 2) cover up the fact that missiles actually hit the buildings. Planes, even ones as large as passenger jets, could NOT have brought down the towers.

dumpfly 09-24-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17531297)
Quick, someone chop porn onto that chick's laptop!

And I am just that bored right now -

http://www.sexramen.com/images/US wa...xramen.com.jpg

EZRhino 09-24-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17533046)
Conspiracy theorists make liberals look smart.

Love that one. :thumbsup:thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2012 09-24-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17537915)
Love that one. :thumbsup:thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh no shit ! never ask questions :thumbsup


do what you're fucking told and shut the FuCk up ....


EZRhino 09-24-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseFrog (Post 17537753)
When you're orchestrating something on this level, you can never be too sure. Did you notice that in the live feeds on 9/11 right before the planes hit there was a "blip" in all video feeds? It's widely speculated that they spliced in CGI footage of airplanes hitting the towers to 1) cover up any uncontrolled secondary explosions from the pre-planted demolitions 2) cover up the fact that missiles actually hit the buildings. Planes, even ones as large as passenger jets, could NOT have brought down the towers.

Wow, you must be right. So how did you do it last time when you orchestrated an attack of that level? Or did someone tell you when they planned and executed a attack like 9/11 and told you, that this is how its done? There is so much overwhelming evidence that the video was doctored. Since I have seen missle impacts and high order detonations, there was always a :1orglaugh"huge fireball":1orglaugh. Since we never developed explosive technology past 1860's. :1orglaugh

moeloubani 09-24-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17537601)
Oh, PULLEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The US delagation walked out on a dangerously sociopathic nutball who was in the midst of a psychotic rant and near incoherent babbling and I'd have walked out also. Why anyone gives that goofy bastard AKMAJINABOOB the time of day is beyond me!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

Would you walk out if it meant that you'd have to send your kids to war with them the next day to fight and possibly be killed by them or even you yourself go to war with them and possibly be killed? I mean REALLY had to go.

No you'd listen to the Doctor (yes, he's a doctor, a level of education I'm sure you'd never attain) and then you'd try diplomacy. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make them a nut bag. Not listening to someone and then going to war with them does.

The Demon 09-24-2010 09:26 PM

Hell no Rhino, you're using common sense to come up with the most logical solution, therefore, you sir are a moron! Everybody knows 9/11 was an inside job!

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EZRhino 09-24-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 17537918)
:1orglaugh no shit ! never ask questions :thumbsup
do what you're fucking told and shut the FuCk up ....

Perfect example of a person who cant stand being wrong. Attack with anger and censorship. I thought it was funny and I never said dont ask questions. I would never say that. I believe in your right to say it. But prepared to get mocked. People who "scream shut the FuCk up ...." are the ones telling others not to question them. And trying to silence others who speak up. So I say, I will continue to ask questions about your theories and others becuase I wont shut up.
So dont be a 14 year old bitch and stop crying when someone doesnt agree with you.

The Demon 09-24-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17537941)
Perfect example of a person who cant stand being wrong. Attack with anger and censorship. I thought it was funny and I never said dont ask questions. I would never say that. I believe in your right to say it. But prepared to get mocked. People who "scream shut the FuCk up ...." are the ones telling others not to question them. And trying to silence others who speak up. So I say, I will continue to ask questions about your theories and others becuase I wont shut up.
So dont be a 14 year old bitch and stop crying when someone doesnt agree with you.

Like I said, the beauty of this porn forum is that those who use logic and reason get mocked, and the conspiracy theorists get praised since apparently they're not "sheeple". HIGHLY amusing.:1orglaugh

opflix 09-24-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17537720)
Leave it to the porn industry to play conspiracy theorists and actually have the balls to make fun of those who assume the obvious happened, rather than "LOLZ INSIDE JOB!!"

the industry one chooses to do business in is unrelated to one's freedom of mind. the authorities don't need to imprison a population or influence them physically, they just need to imprison them psychologically to maintain power. no organization has done so with as much success as the US Govt. :2 cents:

2012 09-24-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17537941)
Perfect example of a person who cant stand being wrong. Attack with anger and censorship. I thought it was funny and I never said dont ask questions. I would never say that. I believe in your right to say it. But prepared to get mocked. People who "scream shut the FuCk up ...." are the ones telling others not to question them. And trying to silence others who speak up. So I say, I will continue to ask questions about your theories and others becuase I wont shut up.
So dont be a 14 year old bitch and stop crying when someone doesnt agree with you.

http://i56.tinypic.com/332lyjl.jpg

why do you silence others and then cry for it ?


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