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Quentin 09-23-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17530504)
Entertaining thread.

Question, the Jon does they are going after how do they get their personal info? Has there been an ISP yet who gave in on that?

Yes, ISPs have provided information on users who have allegedly uploaded infringing materials. Under the DMCA, once served with a proper subpoena, the ISP has no real choice other than to fork over any identifying information that they have on such users.

Here's the text of the relevant section of code (which is 17 USC §512(h), for those keeping score at home):

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(h) Subpoena to Identify Infringer.?

(1) Request. ? A copyright owner or a person authorized to act on the owner's behalf may request the clerk of any United States district court to issue a subpoena to a service provider for identification of an alleged infringer in accordance with this subsection.

(2) Contents of request ? The request may be made by filing with the clerk ?

(A) a copy of a notification described in subsection (c)(3)(A);

(B) a proposed subpoena; and

(C) a sworn declaration to the effect that the purpose for which the subpoena is sought is to obtain the identity of an alleged infringer and that such information will only be used for the purpose of protecting rights under this title.

(3) Contents of subpoena. ? The subpoena shall authorize and order the service provider receiving the notification and the subpoena to expeditiously disclose to the copyright owner or person authorized by the copyright owner information sufficient to identify the alleged infringer of the material described in the notification to the extent such information is available to the service provider.

(4) Basis for granting subpoena. ? If the notification filed satisfies the provisions of subsection (c)(3)(A), the proposed subpoena is in proper form, and the accompanying declaration is properly executed, the clerk shall expeditiously issue and sign the proposed subpoena and return it to the requester for delivery to the service provider.

(5) Actions of service provider receiving subpoena. ? Upon receipt of the issued subpoena, either accompanying or subsequent to the receipt of a notification described in subsection (c)(3)(A), the service provider shall expeditiously disclose to the copyright owner or person authorized by the copyright owner the information required by the subpoena, notwithstanding any other provision of law and regardless of whether the service provider responds to the notification.

(6) Rules applicable to subpoena. ? Unless otherwise provided by this section or by applicable rules of the court, the procedure for issuance and delivery of the subpoena, and the remedies for noncompliance with the subpoena, shall be governed to the greatest extent practicable by those provisions of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure governing the issuance, service, and enforcement of a subpoena duces tecum.
To not respond to such a subpoena would probably not be the best business decision an ISP can make. The courts usually aren't particularly amused by that sort of thing.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-23-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17530504)
Entertaining thread.

Question, the Jon does they are going after how do they get their personal info? Has there been an ISP yet who gave in on that?

On court order they will.

Roald 09-23-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17530571)
Yes, ISPs have provided information on users who have allegedly uploaded infringing materials. Under the DMCA, once served with a proper subpoena, the ISP has no real choice other than to fork over any identifying information that they have on such users.

Here's the text of the relevant section of code (which is 17 USC §512(h), for those keeping score at home):



To not respond to such a subpoena would probably not be the best business decision an ISP can make. The courts usually aren't particularly amused by that sort of thing.

Thanks for that, wasn't too sure about that.

MasterM 09-23-2010 11:44 AM

how about all those ads on those sites. they live from those ads , but also some large programs advertising in there.

gumdrop 09-23-2010 12:00 PM

If the American's were able to haul in Marc Emery for selling pot seeds to the USA from Canada. They will bring in the pirates as well.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-23-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17530786)
If the American's were able to haul in Marc Emery for selling pot seeds to the USA from Canada. They will bring in the pirates as well.

Thank you for this most valuable input FatFoo V2.0

tiger 09-23-2010 12:55 PM

A lot of damage has already been done, but I have a feeling things are starting to change, seems the gay companies are leading the way.

mafia_man 09-23-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 17528792)
Because they aren't in Cyprus, they may have incorporated there but they aren't there. In the end they will slip up somewhere in their paper trail, and then they will get hammered...

An Israeli citizen owns it.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 09-24-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17529461)
Blah blah blah. Than talk about it in 10 years. Could have, would have, should have.. What ever, dreamer.

Name me one fucking tube thats not based in us that paying on courts orders. Name one, just one !!! Or ask Robbie, he knows better.

You're fucking clueless dude. What are you like 16 years old? You can't foresee shit further than 6 months into the future? Things are not going to stay this way. Shit like this just does not last. SO enjoy your free movie downloads and mp3's while they last. I am. It will take years for things to come around, but they will, and when they do somebody is going to take the fall. Unfortunately it will probably come by way of some bullshit international pact like ACTA, which is generally a crock of fucking shit. Money talks, and the longer the pirates openly spit the the face of multi-million dollar industries, the more pressure will be put on the law-makers to do something about it. Whether that means pursuing the downloaders or the distributors, we'll have to see. But you can bet your ass they will.

So you want to call me a dreamer? You're the one fucking dreaming chump...

Robbie 09-24-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17530405)
Oh ye, Name me one fucking site that paid out. NAME ME JUST ONE, OH THE GREAT ONE !!!!

Hey Fbomb

Looks like Mansef/Manwin is SETTLING (paying out) to Pink Visual over Pornhub and their other tubes.

Is that good enough for you "OH THE GREAT ONE"
:pimp

Far-L 09-24-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17528794)
OK, so not in Cyprus. In Ukraine. You really think they will cave in and pay the fine. What ever. :1orglaugh

Unless the money is hidden in a mattress in a hole in a cave next to Bin Laden himself, the idea that you cannot go after offshore banks is ridiculous. All of them. People that somehow think being "offshore" in tax havens under obscure corporate identities is somehow going to protect them are just fooling themselves and probably just not familiar with the reality of the situation.

Far-L 09-24-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17536708)
Hey Fbomb

Looks like Mansef/Manwin is SETTLING (paying out) to Pink Visual over Pornhub and their other tubes.

Is that good enough for you "OH THE GREAT ONE"
:pimp

ummmm... I hate to be the one to say I told you all so but... :winkwink:

Far-L 09-24-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17530472)
Name one. Just one, idiot. Use google and post results here.

We have a firm that has won settlements for us. I won't say more than that and I can't. I don't care if you don't believe me because that won't add or subtract one cent from my bottom line.

Am I going to retire on the income? No. But those we tagged aren't going to be either.

Robbie 09-24-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 17537157)
Unless the money is hidden in a mattress in a hole in a cave next to Bin Laden himself, the idea that you cannot go after offshore banks is ridiculous. All of them. People that somehow think being "offshore" in tax havens under obscure corporate identities is somehow going to protect them are just fooling themselves and probably just not familiar with the reality of the situation.

Yep, we all thought the same thing about opening merch accounts in Cypress to do x-sells. That didn't work out too well either.


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