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FatBastard 09-23-2010 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17528928)
Personally don't have much tied up into this but...really man?

You either update people or give them their money back. I'm sure the guy doesn't care about ACH or wires that are going out, he just cares about HIS money and he's getting no updates where that is. Myself, I just want ePassporte to be back but this whole 2 weeks with no answers, 20 days with no clue as to what happened has me looking for an alternative. At least with another company something happens and you get updates, it's been 20 days and we've gotten no updates at all that we didn't have on day 1.

People have the right to be pissed, to call you guys thieves and the like. You don't have the right to be pissed about it because you're the one holding onto their money and REFUSING to give a LEGIT answer as to where it is.

If it was me with the money that some of you have tied into this account? I would go directly to the number that Chris Mallick told us not to call, kept calling and calling and calling and kept calling. If Chris Mallick wants the calling to stop it would be easy - a clear and concise update on what's happening. Something REAL. But as it is now, ePassporte has stolen the money. That's what it's called when you take something that is rightfully someone elses and refuse to give it back or failing that refuse to give an answer as to why you can't give it back. 'We just can't' doesn't suffice. Money in motion doesn't suffice. A real answer does. Until then there's no reason to defend ePassporte - no one cares - just show us the money/card functionality or at least some sort of real update. Otherwise all the defending and going on about how sure you are the money is coming back doesn't mean anything.

What did ePassporte do TODAY to try to sort this problem out. That would help...and even if TODAY isn't good maybe this week? How about the past 20 days? What at all did ePassporte do except have meetings? I have meetings every day. Some of them are to smoke joints. What are the meetings you guys are having? I meet with friends. Who did you guys meet with?
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Darkcrni 09-23-2010 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
and won't you agree its better to stay silent


Hmmmm......yeah SILENT is good......lets get silent for lets say 12-15 months and let people pay their bills with their asses.

All we got these 3 weeks is a Silence! :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Jdoughs 09-23-2010 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 17528932)
Why is it so fucking hard to make a wire for you guys, I did and have my money. Everyone that is waiting on the CC to work for getting your money back is just leazy.
Way to pay attention there Einstein.

Everyone that is 'waiting' on the CC is waiting for the funds to be released so we can have access to them.

There is no wire, or withdraw, they don't have 'access' to those funds.

Jdoughs 09-23-2010 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
This is a multi million dollar issue that needs to be solved and won't you agree its better to stay silent than saying to much and decreasing the chance of this getting solved? If ePassporte were running with your money do you think we would do Original Credits, ACHs and wires?

Thats all I have to say to you about this to you.
Bullshit.

I doubt you really believe that shit either.

Darkcrni 09-23-2010 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
This is a multi million dollar issue that needs to be solved and won't you agree its better to stay silent than saying to much and decreasing the chance of this getting solved? If ePassporte were running with your money do you think we would do Original Credits, ACHs and wires?
I really start to wonder what have you guys done there!

Its like a MAFIA WAR, Blood Money and Drugs!

"Yeah Murffy go hide that body in the dumpster and keep it silent" !!!:2 cents:

AzteK 09-23-2010 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17529036)
Bullshit.

I doubt you really believe that shit either.
LOL sounds good tho

PornMD 09-23-2010 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 17528932)
Why is it so fucking hard to make a wire for you guys, I did and have my money. Everyone that is waiting on the CC to work for getting your money back is just leazy.
Were your funds that you got via wire in your VV? Of course they weren't. Well some people have 6-figures of money in their VV with absolutely no way to get it, and no answer after 20 days other than "funds are in motion", whatever the hell that was supposed to mean. Not even an inkling of when there will be an answer, let alone how long their money will be tied up, and now Michael is even letting it slip that people getting their money back is down to chance vs. the certainty of "your money is safe" which is what was originally said.

I don't blame HIM for that, I blame his superiors who clearly aren't saying shit even to him, probably because anything they would have to say at this point would indicate the situation to be much worse than they originally let on. Still, if that were the case and say it'd be another month or longer for people to get their money, at the very least they should TELL PEOPLE this. Instead, Visa and even the offshore bank have given more info to people than Epass has, and they probably didn't have to since they aren't the interface people are dealing with - Epass is. And despite that, Epass can't figure out why people are getting more antsy?

USUALENT 09-23-2010 01:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
This is a multi million dollar issue that needs to be solved and won't you agree its better to stay silent than saying to much and decreasing the chance of this getting solved? If ePassporte were running with your money do you think we would do Original Credits, ACHs and wires?

Thats all I have to say to you about this to you.
mike your a good guy... but that being silent statement doesnt fly with me..

mikke 09-23-2010 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiMpLe (Post 17526568)
I'm still waiting on my 9k wire - My cash is fully hostage atm.
quote: "we have so many wires to do bla bla bla"

It's been over 14 biz days REALLY?!?!?!
im waiting 9 days, also i contacted to Michael O. and he said i need wait, cus they have so many wires.. and he pleased me to be patient..

timoxxl2 09-23-2010 02:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
This is a multi million dollar issue that needs to be solved and won't you agree its better to stay silent than saying to much and decreasing the chance of this getting solved? If ePassporte were running with your money do you think we would do Original Credits, ACHs and wires?

Thats all I have to say to you about this to you.

You are not doing wires ... me and many others are waiting for 3 weeks not for you to transfer the money and nothing happens.

seeandsee 09-23-2010 02:14 AM
money is safe, be silent!

timoxxl2 09-23-2010 02:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rage3 (Post 17528234)
Gregory Elias is also the FBI President for Curacao...

Below is pic of him between 2 Antillean soccor players.

http://navusoccer.org/soccer/index.p...12&Itemi d=73

how many titles does this guy have?
i can imagine that he is happy when all this epass thing is over.

we should contact him on all lines ... i assume that is the most direct way to mallik

Jack Sparrow 09-23-2010 03:19 AM
The "change" statement is REALLY troubling.
I was a believer against odds, but this 1 word almost made me lose faith..

Denny 09-23-2010 03:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17528928)
Personally don't have much tied up into this but...really man?

You either update people or give them their money back. I'm sure the guy doesn't care about ACH or wires that are going out, he just cares about HIS money and he's getting no updates where that is. Myself, I just want ePassporte to be back but this whole 2 weeks with no answers, 20 days with no clue as to what happened has me looking for an alternative. At least with another company something happens and you get updates, it's been 20 days and we've gotten no updates at all that we didn't have on day 1.

People have the right to be pissed, to call you guys thieves and the like. You don't have the right to be pissed about it because you're the one holding onto their money and REFUSING to give a LEGIT answer as to where it is.

If it was me with the money that some of you have tied into this account? I would go directly to the number that Chris Mallick told us not to call, kept calling and calling and calling and kept calling. If Chris Mallick wants the calling to stop it would be easy - a clear and concise update on what's happening. Something REAL. But as it is now, ePassporte has stolen the money. That's what it's called when you take something that is rightfully someone elses and refuse to give it back or failing that refuse to give an answer as to why you can't give it back. 'We just can't' doesn't suffice. Money in motion doesn't suffice. A real answer does. Until then there's no reason to defend ePassporte - no one cares - just show us the money/card functionality or at least some sort of real update. Otherwise all the defending and going on about how sure you are the money is coming back doesn't mean anything.

What did ePassporte do TODAY to try to sort this problem out. That would help...and even if TODAY isn't good maybe this week? How about the past 20 days? What at all did ePassporte do except have meetings? I have meetings every day. Some of them are to smoke joints. What are the meetings you guys are having? I meet with friends. Who did you guys meet with?
:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup

Davy 09-23-2010 03:28 AM
Epass might become a US business only.
Right now, the only way to load epass is via US checking account. :(

Actually, it would be a way to save their business. Make all US customers happy - screw all the international guys.

Agent 488 09-23-2010 03:38 AM
it's fucking done.

Thomas007 09-23-2010 03:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timoxxl2 (Post 17529131)
You are not doing wires ... me and many others are waiting for 3 weeks not for you to transfer the money and nothing happens.
I agree with that.
We submitted a wire request september 3rd.
The money has still not left our epass account.

I'll email Gregory Elias now and ask if he knows what's going on.

Zyber 09-23-2010 03:54 AM
Could this explain the silence?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...70&postcount=5

MMarko 09-23-2010 03:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 17528932)
Why is it so fucking hard to make a wire for you guys, I did and have my money. Everyone that is waiting on the CC to work for getting your money back is just leazy.
Problem are funds in virtual visa, not in wallet.

Thomas007 09-23-2010 04:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMarko (Post 17529314)
Problem are funds in virtual visa, not in wallet.
Well, our money is on the wallet and they are not sending out wire transfers to us.

2intense 09-23-2010 04:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17529141)
money is safe, be silent!
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thomas007 09-23-2010 04:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 17529303)
I agree with that.
We submitted a wire request september 3rd.
The money has still not left our epass account.

I'll email Gregory Elias now and ask if he knows what's going on.
I got a reply from Gregory Elias.
Quote:
Here you go Sir,

Your message has been conveyed to the correct people to address your queries.

Best wishes,


Gregory Elias




The United Trust Company N.V.
Landhuis Joonchi
Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n
P.O. Box 837, Willemstad
Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles

Ph 00-5999-7331800
Fax 00-5999-7366161

CC'ed to:
Christy Barnes<[email protected]>, Christy Taylor<[email protected]>,
Chris Mallick <[email protected]>

Will be interesting to see what happens next.

seeandsee 09-23-2010 04:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 17529389)
I got a reply from Gregory Elias.



CC'ed to:
Christy Barnes<[email protected]>, Christy Taylor<[email protected]>,
Chris Mallick <[email protected]>

Will be interesting to see what happens next.
so Middle men jumps into scene? Check oxymoronent.com

DEA - banned for life 09-23-2010 04:48 AM
lol cmon people you dont see whats going on here?


www.oxymoron-entertainment.com


click on "press" for status of your monies !!! !

Fido 09-23-2010 04:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 17529389)
I got a reply from Gregory Elias.



CC'ed to:
Christy Barnes<[email protected]>, Christy Taylor<[email protected]>,
Chris Mallick <[email protected]>

Will be interesting to see what happens next.
Your email is safe and in motion.

georgeyw 09-23-2010 05:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
This is a multi million dollar issue that needs to be solved and won't you agree its better to stay silent than saying to much and decreasing the chance of this getting solved? If ePassporte were running with your money do you think we would do Original Credits, ACHs and wires?

Thats all I have to say to you about this to you.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Updates on what is actually happening is what is necessary right now.

Staying silent only impresses upon us all that epass is truly fucked.

Tjeezers 09-23-2010 05:55 AM
So the left hand does not want to let the right hand know what he is doing

Agent 488 09-23-2010 07:59 AM
chances in motion.

SmokeyTheBear 09-23-2010 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17528928)
Personally don't have much tied up into this but...really man?

You either update people or give them their money back. I'm sure the guy doesn't care about ACH or wires that are going out, he just cares about HIS money and he's getting no updates where that is. Myself, I just want ePassporte to be back but this whole 2 weeks with no answers, 20 days with no clue as to what happened has me looking for an alternative. At least with another company something happens and you get updates, it's been 20 days and we've gotten no updates at all that we didn't have on day 1.

People have the right to be pissed, to call you guys thieves and the like. You don't have the right to be pissed about it because you're the one holding onto their money and REFUSING to give a LEGIT answer as to where it is.

If it was me with the money that some of you have tied into this account? I would go directly to the number that Chris Mallick told us not to call, kept calling and calling and calling and kept calling. If Chris Mallick wants the calling to stop it would be easy - a clear and concise update on what's happening. Something REAL. But as it is now, ePassporte has stolen the money. That's what it's called when you take something that is rightfully someone elses and refuse to give it back or failing that refuse to give an answer as to why you can't give it back. 'We just can't' doesn't suffice. Money in motion doesn't suffice. A real answer does. Until then there's no reason to defend ePassporte - no one cares - just show us the money/card functionality or at least some sort of real update. Otherwise all the defending and going on about how sure you are the money is coming back doesn't mean anything.

What did ePassporte do TODAY to try to sort this problem out. That would help...and even if TODAY isn't good maybe this week? How about the past 20 days? What at all did ePassporte do except have meetings? I have meetings every day. Some of them are to smoke joints. What are the meetings you guys are having? I meet with friends. Who did you guys meet with?
:thumbsup:thumbsup

TylerBang 09-23-2010 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 17529389)
I got a reply from Gregory Elias.



CC'ed to:
Christy Barnes<[email protected]>, Christy Taylor<[email protected]>,
Chris Mallick <[email protected]>

Will be interesting to see what happens next.
This will be interesting. I don't understand how one wire requested Sept 9th can be delivered and another requested Sept 3rd can be ignored. I have one from the 8th that hasn't even been addressed besides the usual "its in the queue" statement.

wolfshade 09-23-2010 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 17529389)
I got a reply from Gregory Elias.



CC'ed to:
Christy Barnes<[email protected]>, Christy Taylor<[email protected]>,
Chris Mallick <[email protected]>

Will be interesting to see what happens next.
Right, here we have a real gem.

I would suggest emailing Epass support with your questions on an hourly, daily or whatever bases, CCíng those addresses. That way they all get a taste of how many are waiting.

Right now they have taken notice of the fact. Experiencing the fact is another story. You can't take their cash, but you sure can kill their email functionality that way.

Just mail support and CC

Christy Barnes<[email protected]>,
Christy Taylor<[email protected]>,
Chris Mallick <[email protected]>
And Of course Mr Elias :thumbsup

You could even combine this with calls to the Bank.

All you need to apply pressure right here in one thread. USE IT!

spazlabz 09-23-2010 09:35 AM
http://www.jonco48.com/blog/silence.jpg

karma118 09-23-2010 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 17528932)
Why is it so fucking hard to make a wire for you guys, I did and have my money. Everyone that is waiting on the CC to work for getting your money back is just leazy.
And how is it you can wire your funds from the virtual visa? you can't. they are frozen, dont you thnk people would wire them if they actually had access to them? get a clue.. :thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 09-23-2010 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerBang (Post 17530082)
This will be interesting. I don't understand how one wire requested Sept 9th can be delivered and another requested Sept 3rd can be ignored. I have one from the 8th that hasn't even been addressed besides the usual "its in the queue" statement.
:thumbsup:thumbsup

USUALENT 09-23-2010 12:57 PM
great info to put to use..

cams2chat 09-23-2010 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17528875)
This is a multi million dollar issue that needs to be solved and won't you agree its better to stay silent than saying to much and decreasing the chance of this getting solved? If ePassporte were running with your money do you think we would do Original Credits, ACHs and wires?

Thats all I have to say to you about this to you.
Suggest you read the email I received from Pearl and you were cc'd. Long on attitude about what I should have done, even though I had already done it, and short on Epassporte doing anything about my wire requested september 3 and still not sent.

grumpy 09-23-2010 01:13 PM
dont know if its posted yet

EPassporte
Address: 260 King St E
Toronto, ON,
M5A 4L5
Phone: 416-703-7200

grumpy 09-23-2010 01:15 PM
from another board

I work for a PCI (credit card security) auditor, and think the elephant in the room that nobody?s talking about is how ePassporte stores card data.

I checked the Visa list of PCI compliant companies (http://usa.visa.com/download/merchan...-providers.pdf) and I can?t find ePassporte or any of these other related companies on the list.

ePassporte would need to pass an annual third party security audit since it looks like it runs the back-end for its cards and bills users? credit cards to load accounts.

This could explain why they were shut down so suddenly.

I can?t imagine Visa would allow the cards to be re-activated until it has passed a PCI audit.

tiger 09-23-2010 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 17528932)
Why is it so fucking hard to make a wire for you guys, I did and have my money. Everyone that is waiting on the CC to work for getting your money back is just leazy.
You don't read much do you?




Pretty arrogant comments from Michael, telling people to be quite when all they want are some answers as to whats going on with their money. Epass would be dead without you Michael and I think in all my experience with you, you are awesome, but you need to seriously rethink those comments.

wolfshade 09-23-2010 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17531125)
You don't read much do you?




Pretty arrogant comments from Michael, telling people to be quite when all they want are some answers as to whats going on with their money. Epass would be dead without you Michael and I think in all my experience with you, you are awesome, but you need to seriously rethink those comments.
Well, in another thread I came on pretty strong towards Michael O but in all honesty, I suspect that he simply is not allowed to address the issues, which speaks volumes about Epass, but not about its Rep on the boards. I suspect that in his own way he is just as frustrated as we are.

Anybody know the feeling of knowing what's going on, but not being able to respond and tell the others while they are having a go at the situation?

THAT'S what he is feeling at this very moment most likely.

Therefore I'd say go easy on the guy, he can't be blamed for more then a poor choice of company to work for. However, do your worst calling St Kitts bank and keep mailing support with the CC's to the mentioned addresses in this thread.

Let the true culprits feel the heat for a change.


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