Is The Deck Being Stacked at the ICANN .xxx Comments Link?

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  • davecummings
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 2922

    #1

    Is The Deck Being Stacked at the ICANN .xxx Comments Link?

    Are all of the "supporters" at http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-revised-icm-agreement/ really true and direct stakeholders, or are the religious nuts or some other folks or entities stacking the deck against us?

    Do you recognize specific .xxx supporters as being legitimate stakeholders from amongst us? If not, please tell ICANN ( and, comment one-way-or-the-other here), AND please post YOUR own comment against .xxx by sending an email to ICANN at [email protected] .

    All the comments, both for or against .xxx can be viewed at http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-revised-icm-agreement/.

    Please protect this Industry by voicing your comments against .xxx. The deadline is listed at the ICANN site as "11:59 a.m. Pacific Daylight time (18:59 UTC) on 23 September 2010". Please submit your BEFORE this coming Thursday.

    The opening page at www.freespeechcoalition.com contains useful/helpful info.

    OK?
    Last edited by davecummings; 09-20-2010, 08:29 AM.
    Dave Cummings
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    www.davecummings.tv
    San Diego

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  • BestXXXPorn
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2009
    • 2277

    #2
    Well for one, they sent out spam requesting anyone that had preregistered a domain send in a comment in support of...

    I think that should be mentioned in different peoples' comments... I know it's in mine!
    ICQ: 258-202-811 | Email: eric{at}bestxxxporn.com

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    • davecummings
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 2922

      #3
      WE Need to Help Get .xxx Defeated Before Thursday's Deadline.

      In addition to participating in the link at www.freespeechcoalition.com , I sent in my personal comment to ICANN last night. Here's a copy/paste of it:
      -----------------------------------------

      "Most of the REAL Sponsored Community Wants .xxx DEFEATED
      To: <xxx-revised-icm-agreement@xxxxxxxxx>
      Subject: Most of the REAL Sponsored Community Wants .xxx DEFEATED
      From: "Dave C." <davec@xxxxxxxxxx>
      Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:47:46 -0700

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      I am a REAL stakeholder, with over 10 years in the Sponsored Community! IMO,
      ICANN needs to determine if ICM and all of the people it's motivated to
      express support for .xxx are, in fact, REAL stakeholders. IMO, ICANN needs
      to make certain that ICANN decides who meets stakeholder and sponsored
      community status, and not be swayed by any ICM subjective
      preferences/definitions/etc of it.

      In my REAL stakeholder opinion, ICANN should permanently and totally deny
      the ICM .xxx proposal. It seems to me that relatively few Adult Internet
      people are in favor of it, while conversely, relatively MANY of the REAL
      stakeholders support ICANN denial of the ICM proposed .xxx contract.

      I understand that ICANN might possibly be feeling somewhat swayed due to
      concern of an ICM lawsuit if .xxx isn't approved for ICM. IMO, ICANN might
      indeed be involved in a multitude of lawsuits if .xxx ISN'T denied, and
      those legal actions could be near-term, continuing, and long-term (e.g.,
      if/when government "ghetto-ization" requires REAL STAKEHOLDERS to close
      sites with .com and other presently recognized tlds, and instead use the ICM
      .xxx tld; or, when continuing registry and other "issues/problems" come up,
      etc---this could go on for years and years).

      I worry that unless ICANN totally and permanently "kills" .xxx THIS time,
      ICANN will become so overburdened in resolving matters related to .xxx that
      ICANN might become unable to properly accomplish its other primary
      priorities and responsibilities.

      I understand that the Free Speech Coalition (FSC) has brought many IMPORTANT
      issues to ICANN in the last few weeks. IMO, ICANN needs to listen to FSC and
      resolve all the matters AND requests that FSC has surfaced to ICANN. Like
      many other REAL stakeholders in the Sponsored Community, FSC is the overall
      voice for me. ICM does not speak for me (or MANY others of the REAL
      stakeholders!).

      Dave C."
      Dave Cummings
      www.davecummings.com
      www.davecummings.tv
      San Diego

      Email--- [email protected]

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      • davecummings
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2003
        • 2922

        #4
        Originally posted by BestXXXPorn
        Well for one, they sent out spam requesting anyone that had preregistered a domain send in a comment in support of...

        I think that should be mentioned in different peoples' comments... I know it's in mine!
        I glad and thankful that you mentioned it in your comment:-)
        Dave Cummings
        www.davecummings.com
        www.davecummings.tv
        San Diego

        Email--- [email protected]

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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #5
          They're going to bring in .XXX domains what ever we say. How many times have they brought it back to the table?



          Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
          PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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          • u-Bob
            there's no $$$ in porn
            • Jul 2005
            • 33063

            #6
            to the top.

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            • Alprazolam
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2005
              • 864

              #7
              hey if you cant win the game in a fair way........... cheat.

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              • davecummings
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2003
                • 2922

                #8
                To me, this whole .xxx thing is a big noose around our necks, and the ICANN comments opportunity might be our best bet to stop the bottom from falling open beneath our feet (sorta like the what happened to Saddam Hussein when he died).
                Dave Cummings
                www.davecummings.com
                www.davecummings.tv
                San Diego

                Email--- [email protected]

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                • Alprazolam
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 864

                  #9
                  you are a good dude dave. i hope this guy gets a kick in the balls.

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                  • Alprazolam
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 864

                    #10
                    can you post multiple times?

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                    • davecummings
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2922

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alprazolam
                      can you post multiple times?
                      That's a good question to ask --please ask it by sending an email to [email protected] with a Cc to [email protected] . They told me that inputting to the FSC site's link is OK, and that I could ALSO post my own personal thoughts/opinions/etc at the ICANN site via [email protected] .

                      Please let us know what FSC tells you--thanks!!
                      Last edited by davecummings; 09-20-2010, 07:35 PM.
                      Dave Cummings
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                      www.davecummings.tv
                      San Diego

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                      • davecummings
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 2922

                        #12
                        As of just a few minutes ago, for postings thus far today, it's 24-1 in favor of those supporting .xxx to just one against .xxx.

                        I recognized only three of the 24, two of which might be REAL stakeholders, and Dave Pounder who is a porn producer/talent (because he's pushing to get .xxx approved, I will never recommend him as talent to anyone I know; nor will I ever recommend any releases he's in to anyone asking for info on DVD purchases).
                        Dave Cummings
                        www.davecummings.com
                        www.davecummings.tv
                        San Diego

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                        • Alprazolam
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 864

                          #13
                          those fuckers are trying to stack the deck hard. those are fake comments for sure.

                          icm is obviously fucking cheating.

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                          • davecummings
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 2922

                            #14
                            Our comments should be submitted by tomorrow.
                            Dave Cummings
                            www.davecummings.com
                            www.davecummings.tv
                            San Diego

                            Email--- [email protected]

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                            • Amputate Your Head
                              There can be only one
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 39075

                              #15
                              .xxx will become reality eventually, with or without consent.

                              it is another control mechanism. they are trying to get a leash on the Internet.
                              SIG TOO BIG

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                              • Alprazolam
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 864

                                #16
                                dave, has anyone spoken directly to icann? seems that stuart talks to them all the time. i wish he would get hit by a fucking truck.

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                                • Deej
                                  I make pixels work
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 24386

                                  #17
                                  I have emailed this cause numerous times. I dont see why we need to update our disgust of this situation every year or so.

                                  It would be nice if the people ehind the scenes would knock this shit off.

                                  BTW, how do you email this list again?

                                  Deej's Designs n' What Not
                                  Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching


                                  Icq#30096880

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                                  • Alprazolam
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 864

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Deej
                                    I have emailed this cause numerous times. I dont see why we need to update our disgust of this situation every year or so.

                                    It would be nice if the people ehind the scenes would knock this shit off.

                                    BTW, how do you email this list again?
                                    [email protected]

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                                    • Zyber
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 832

                                      #19
                                      Sent mail, and confirmed it... Bump! +1

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                                      • DWB
                                        Registered User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 31779

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by davecummings
                                        for postings thus far today, it's 24-1 in favor of those supporting .xxx to just one against .xxx.
                                        Honestly, are you surprised? There is money to be made. Most of the dirt bags in this business would sell their own mothers for $20.

                                        ----------------------------------------------

                                        Dear ICANN,
                                        There was a time when I was opposed to .XXX, but after serious thought, I believe an industry ghetto is exactly what the adult industry deserves. Since we are unable to regulate ourselves in ANY manner, constantly screwing over our customers, screwing over each other, always taking the short cut and now flat out stealing from each other and hiding behind copyright law. Perhaps it is best if someone else or another entity regulates the business for us.

                                        We have proven time and time again that we are inept and totally incapable of doing anything as an industry, other than screwing up and screwing everyone over. It would be in everyone's best interest to approve XXX and stick us where we belong, in the ghetto.

                                        Regards,
                                        Your biggest supporter

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                                        • DWB
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 31779

                                          #21
                                          BTW... The fact that you can send random anonymous emails in to show support or lack of, shows just how fucked in the ass we're getting.

                                          I could hire a warehouse of Filipinos to send bogus mails all day long to them, but it wouldn't matter because they have already decided and are playing everyone for fools. If they were serious, you would have to sumbit some sort of proof that you actually exists.

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                                          • Simon
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 189

                                            #22
                                            I sent an email to ICANN at [email protected] this morning, got the confirmation email within 5 minutes, went to the website to enter the confirm code they sent (an alternative to just replying to the email) and my comments appeared in the thread about 15 minutes later.

                                            Here's a copy of what I sent them, in hopes it'll inspire a few more people to say something.


                                            * To: xxx-revised-icm-agreement@xxxxxxxxx
                                            * Subject: Creating the new .xxx TLD is NOT supported by the Adult Industry
                                            * From: Simon at ExtremePorn <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                                            * Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:53:39 -0400

                                            I've been actively involved in creating and managing adult entertainment websites for over 13 years. In this time I've made thousands of contacts within the adult industry and actively communicate with several hundred adult website owners on a regular basis. Although between us we own many thousands of adult domain names, in discussing this new proposed .xxx TLD, I have yet to find anyone interested in owning a domain using the .xxx TLD *except* as a way to protect the branding of adult domains they already own.

                                            By this I mean that there are, of course, adult domain owners who would not want someone else owning the .xxx version of a .com website domain they already own and have spent many years and a lot of money to promote and establish. This proposed new .xxx TLD is, in fact, a generally hated idea to almost all webmasters who have spent years investing in .com domains to build commercial adult websites.

                                            The establishment of this new TLD would force current .com domain owners to invest more money in buying .xxx versions of their domains just to protect them from those who would try to profit by misleading consumers into believing they are dealing with the owners of the original .com website when they are instead doing business with a completely different owner--potentially an owner whose only business is to steal business from those who have worked hard to build a real business using .com domains.

                                            I hope those who are in charge of approving or denying the creation of this new proposed .xxx TLD will understand that most of those who have signed up to pre-register a .xxx domain are doing so to protect infringement on their own .com domains. And that aside from those being coerced and extorted into having to do this to protect what they already own, there are those shady operators who are trying to pre-register .xxx domains in order to attempt to infringe on .com domains/websites which they do not own. None of these pre-registrations should be viewed as any real indication of independent interest in the creation of the new .xxx TLD.

                                            For these reasons I'm writing today to protest the establishment of this new TLD which is absolutely *not* needed or wanted by the vast majority of those actually involved in the adult industry.

                                            Simon Stern
                                            Adult Website Owner/Operator
                                            --
                                            See most arguments on GFY explained in about 5 seconds
                                            email: simon <at> IndustryInc dot com | icq: 269~043~019
                                            "If you want a happy ending, that depends, of course, on where you stop your story."

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                                            • davecummings
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 2922

                                              #23
                                              Time to post (I wonder if those in our Industry who don't post against .xxx are secretly associated with icm????? If so, ?????????????????????????????) .
                                              Dave Cummings
                                              www.davecummings.com
                                              www.davecummings.tv
                                              San Diego

                                              Email--- [email protected]

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