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Nathan 09-17-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 17511793)
Not sure what post of mine your referring to?

sorry, misread on my iphone, was referring to gonzo's post.

Nathan 09-17-2010 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17511818)
No I won't be in Amsterdam. But if I were I would love to share a beer with you. By pouring it over your head.

Very mature for your age, are we Paul?

You just disqualified yourself from even replying to the rest of the post...

SteveLightspeed 09-17-2010 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17511844)
Very mature for your age, are we Paul?

You just disqualified yourself from even replying to the rest of the post...

There is a saying in Russia "If everyone says you are drunk, you're drunk."

Why do you think everyone is so angry about pornhub and your tubes? I've never seen industry meetings called to discuss one companies practices before. You can't be that blind to the problem!

GonZo 09-17-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17511837)
sorry, misread on my iphone, was referring to gonzo's post.

Im sure that studios are sending you full scenes in hopes that people will buy DVDs or VOD time. Anybody thats worked with one studio knows how laughable that is.

I stand by my orignal post... its brilliant you guys are the equivalent of a modern day Al Capone.

Dilute others brands by giving away the goods while building demand for your own.

DWB 09-17-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17511724)
DWB, seriously, can you try posting something that is even less based on facts please? LOL

This is the typical, typical adult industry mentality...

Believe no one, build your own little reality, and stick to it for all its worth, even if you die doing so...

Sad.

Do you know in many Arab countries, it's perfectly legal to stone a woman to death for cheating on her husband? But that doesn't mean it's right, yet they do it because it's legal to do so.

You can spin what you do anyway you want and hide behind whatever laws you need, it doesn't change the fact that you know it's wrong and you're a dick head for doing it. That is typical, typical behavior of criminals, to aways try to justify their actions and find loopholes to do so.

Reality is, I have wasted too much of my time sending your criminal organization notices to remove my videos. Just sent 9 more tonight. :321GFY

xcode 09-17-2010 06:24 PM

why not create a download program that revenues? is better than nothing

Slutboat 09-17-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17514020)
Do you know in many Arab countries, it's perfectly legal to stone a woman to death for cheating on her husband? But that doesn't mean it's right, yet they do it because it's legal to do so.

You can spin what you do anyway you want and hide behind whatever laws you need, it doesn't change the fact that you know it's wrong and you're a dick head for doing it. That is typical, typical behavior of criminals, to aways try to justify their actions and find loopholes to do so.

Reality is, I have wasted too much of my time sending your criminal organization notices to remove my videos. Just sent 9 more tonight. :321GFY



WOW a more logical beat down I have never seen.
DWB we don't always agree but right now... if I was gay...I would suck your cock.

GTS Mark 09-17-2010 08:24 PM

Nathan I'll be in amsterdam and own a pretty decent sized traffic network. Would you like to connect?

[email protected]

SteveLightspeed 09-17-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 17514295)
Nathan I'll be in amsterdam and own a pretty decent sized traffic network. Would you like to connect?

[email protected]

"My grandmother is for sale, cheap!"

SteveLightspeed 09-17-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17514020)
Do you know in many Arab countries, it's perfectly legal to stone a woman to death for cheating on her husband? But that doesn't mean it's right, yet they do it because it's legal to do so.

You can spin what you do anyway you want and hide behind whatever laws you need, it doesn't change the fact that you know it's wrong and you're a dick head for doing it. That is typical, typical behavior of criminals, to aways try to justify their actions and find loopholes to do so.

Reality is, I have wasted too much of my time sending your criminal organization notices to remove my videos. Just sent 9 more tonight. :321GFY

Everyone in prison is "innocent" too.

dgraves 09-17-2010 10:16 PM

funny thing, this is one of the videos i sent a DMCA for earlier this week:

http://www.tube8.com/latina/secretary-creampied/225881/

i love seeing my stolen videos on a tube and everyone is high-fiving the uploader like he made the video!

dgraves 09-17-2010 10:24 PM

oh, here's another one i sent a DMCA for. maybe i should post them here for faster response.

http://www.keezmovies.com/video/best...ob-ever-563047

dgraves 09-17-2010 10:28 PM

i hope i see one of you fuckers at the forum next year. maybe i'll get someone to record it and i can submit it as one of your "viral" videos.

Title: "Brazzer dick licker gets his ass handed to him"

quiet 09-17-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17514316)
"My grandmother is for sale, cheap!"

god you are a fucking douche. there, i said it.

Pipecrew 09-17-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 17514428)
i hope i see one of you fuckers at the forum next year. maybe i'll get someone to record it and i can submit it as one of your "viral" videos.

Title: "Brazzer dick licker gets his ass handed to him"

The guy who handles the dmca for them is named chewy, he's only like 6'8. I can't wait to see this viral video!

sgreen 09-17-2010 10:37 PM

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I can say Jordan Capri or Tawnee Stone just about anywhere and everyone will know who I'm talking about.
Been an adult aff for 6 years now and I don't have any clue whatsoever who either of those girls are :2 cents:

dgraves 09-17-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17514432)
The guy who handles the dmca for them is named chewy, he's only like 6'8. I can't wait to see this viral video!

good, he should be easy to spot at the forum then...

stocktrader23 09-17-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17514429)
god you are a fucking douche. there, i said it.

Nice seeing you again. I read your 'how I did it' story a few weeks ago. No magic, just hard (smart) work. I love it. :glugglug

Allison 09-17-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17511652)
Ways to hurt Tube sites.

Educate surfers that the dating sites adverting on them are cons. Links to stories of these dating sites being sued and telling them how to contact lawyers suing these sites.

Explain how Geo Targeting enables a site to tell them about the "Girl in their Town" who is looking for them. Explain that they are conning surfers out of their money.

Stop sending traffic to any site connected to a Tube site. Advertiser or owner.

Sue uploaders and build a fund to go after the big Tubes to reveal who their uploaders are and sue them.

They will not go away by wishing them away. You might be earning a bit from Dating sites today, long term it will bounce back on you. In fact it already is.

Paul, you list some creative ideas. The type of open and creative ideas we want shared and discussed at the content protection retreat event next month amongst studios.

Robbie 09-17-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17514432)
The guy who handles the dmca for them is named chewy, he's only like 6'8. I can't wait to see this viral video!

LOL..you've never met Dave have you? I think he has enough to handle "Chewy" unless he's a 6'8" bodybuilder or something.

Dirty Dane 09-17-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 17514418)
funny thing, this is one of the videos i sent a DMCA for earlier this week:

http://www.tube8.com/latina/secretary-creampied/225881/

i love seeing my stolen videos on a tube and everyone is high-fiving the uploader like he made the video!

Why don't they remove it?

Atticus 09-17-2010 11:08 PM

This is all so ironic on so many levels.

1. The guy offers to attend this content piracy summit or whatever you want to call it and you tell him no. God forbid anyone keep it professional in this industry and actually have a legitimate discussion. But no, "i sent out 1,000 DMCA's so suck it douche bags" or "fuck you man, you're the problem" or the classic "I'm going to get on a plane and go kick some ass". You think if Viacom, Warner Bros or Fox held a technology summit with a focus on piracy they would exclude Google and YouTube? Of course not.

2. For every content owner bitching about the DMCA piracy loophole. YOU'RE ENTIRE BUSINESS IS BASED ON ONE GIGANTIC LOOPHOLE. Porn is prostitution. Period. But because you have a camera and film it you skirt the law. You dont think that drives the anti-porn zealots nuts? Of course prostitution should be legal, but thats not the issue. It isnt and a girl sucking and fucking 4 guys off for cash is a prostitute.

These tubes took advantage of the DMCA and are making a killing. Is it right? No. Is it legal? Yes. Go ahead and sue all the porn torrent uploaders you want. That's not going to solve anything. Tubes are the content delivery system for the average consumer's internet porn and they're here to stay.

Blingbaby 09-17-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17514464)
This is all so ironic on so many levels.
..some other stuff..

Especially when you consider online porn was built on piracy back in the 90's..

Dirty Dane 09-17-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17514464)
2. For every content owner bitching about the DMCA piracy loophole. YOU'RE ENTIRE BUSINESS IS BASED ON ONE GIGANTIC LOOPHOLE. Porn is prostitution. Period.

No, prostitution is paid for sex service while pornography is acting. It's considered as free speech and thereby protected by many constitutional laws.

stocktrader23 09-17-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17514464)
This is all so ironic on so many levels.

Go ahead and sue all the porn torrent uploaders you want. That's not going to solve anything. Tubes are the content delivery system for the average consumer's internet porn and they're here to stay.

The point I was trying to make in the beginning. Oh well, another round of monkeys flinging poo. Just this time at consumers. :upsidedow

dgraves 09-17-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17514462)
Why don't they remove it?

i'm sure they will now. they removed about 40 videos this week. i guess when you have that much stolen content it's hard to keep track of it all.

it's like playing wack-a-mole with these guys, which is a game i'd like to personally play with them.

Atticus 09-17-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17514474)
No, prostitution is paid for sex work while pornography is paid for acting work. It's considered as free speech and thereby protected by many constitutional laws.

Yes, I'm quite aware of the loophole and the reason it is allowed. Thus the reason I called it ironic.

You can deem it "acting" all you want. It's fucking for money and its prostitution.

digitaldivas 09-17-2010 11:44 PM

imho, Steve has always been an asset to Adult.

Nathan 09-17-2010 11:45 PM

dgraves, I will check why the DMCAs were missed. Can you tell me where you sent it?

dwb, I know very well what they do in arab countries, I do not see how this applies to anything though. I see nothing ethically wrong with DMCA, it actually has to exist, without it all hell would break lose online.
There clearly are enough people in this industry that understand this, that not everyone does is normal and I have to accept that.

Steve, what you do not seem to realize is, not EVERYONE is so angry. Even in this post there are PLENTY of people that disagree with you, not just myself... At least you should accept the truth.

I am horribly interested to see what you all come up with at the Content Retreat. I just also know that whatever you do, it will horribly fail. Why do I know that? Because I know my plans for the next 36 months, and I know that what I keep saying is correct, I want to make sure that we work with the industry and not against it... so we will just wait and see what happens, shall we?

Atticus, interesting comment.

Dirty Dane 09-17-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17514483)
Yes, I'm quite aware of the loophole and the reason it is allowed. Thus the reason I called it ironic.

You can deem it "acting" all you want. It's fucking for money and its prostitution.

To be pornography, money is not the criteria. It's still pornography without paying as long the intentions are the same (an audience). Prostitution is a personal service and money is the criteria.

It can also be pornography even if a movie is not dedicated to porn only. Are actors/actresses doing pornography in a Hollywood movie prostitutes because they are paid for acting?

If you consider free speech a loophole, then everything we do and say legally must be a loophole.

dgraves 09-17-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17514497)
dgraves, I will check why the DMCAs were missed. Can you tell me where you sent it?

dwb, I know very well what they do in arab countries, I do not see how this applies to anything though. I see nothing ethically wrong with DMCA, it actually has to exist, without it all hell would break lose online.
There clearly are enough people in this industry that understand this, that not everyone does is normal and I have to accept that.

Steve, what you do not seem to realize is, not EVERYONE is so angry. Even in this post there are PLENTY of people that disagree with you, not just myself... At least you should accept the truth.

I am horribly interested to see what you all come up with at the Content Retreat. I just also know that whatever you do, it will horribly fail. Why do I know that? Because I know my plans for the next 36 months, and I know that what I keep saying is correct, I want to make sure that we work with the industry and not against it... so we will just wait and see what happens, shall we?

Atticus, interesting comment.

don't worry about it, i'm resending for my own records.

GregE 09-17-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 17514476)
It's like playing wack-a-mole with these guys, which is a game i'd like to personally play with them.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Well said!

stocktrader23 09-18-2010 12:03 AM

Nobody is kicking anyone's ass anywhere. Why front?

stocktrader23 09-18-2010 12:05 AM

As for arguing about prostitution / porn not being the same kind of loophole as DMCA, lol. Not sure what kind of porn you are watching but I haven't seen much in the way of acting. It's a fucking loophole and you know it.

Dirty Dane 09-18-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17514516)
As for arguing about prostitution / porn not being the same kind of loophole as DMCA, lol. Not sure what kind of porn you are watching but I haven't seen much in the way of acting. It's a fucking loophole and you know it.

And what if prostitution is legal? It's legal here, so if even if pornography were considered prostitution there can't exist a loophole because both things are legal.

DMCA is also an "american" thing. If non-us parts have a copyright conflict, DMCA become irrelevant for all parts. Also ISPs, courts etc... Jurisdictions are loopholes to?

dgraves 09-18-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17514514)
Nobody is kicking anyone's ass anywhere. Why front?

don't worry about it unless you're the one showing up at the forum for brazzers.

they might be able to hide behind the DMCA safe harbor but they won't be able to hide from me...

i'm not a keyboard tough guy, i can back my mouth up. they're not going to steal our content and then come to our forum and have a good old time.

stocktrader23 09-18-2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 17514523)
don't worry about it unless you're the one showing up at the forum for brazzers.

they might be able to hide behind the DMCA safe harbor but they won't be able to hide from me...

i'm not a keyboard tough guy, i can back my mouth up. they're not going to steal our content and then come to our forum and have a good old time.

You are GFY member number 5,793 that was going to kick someones ass at the show. Ironically, you are also number 5,793 that was not a keyboard tough guy and could back his mouth up.

It won't happen, your mad ass does not want to go to jail (premeditated much) and if you see someone from Brazzers there will probably be a picture of you talking to them nicely that pops up on GFY.

Call them assholes, tell them they are scum but don't say you are going to hit anyone when you are not. :pimp

Atticus 09-18-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17514501)
To be pornography, money is not the criteria. It's still pornography without paying as long the intentions are the same (an audience). Prostitution is a personal service and money is the criteria.

It can also be pornography even if a movie is not dedicated to porn only. Are actors/actresses doing pornography in a Hollywood movie prostitutes because they are paid for acting?

If you consider free speech a loophole, then everything we do and say legally must be a loophole.


Yes thank you professor. I understand that porn is protected by the 1st amendment.

But let's cut the shit. Performers in porn arent acting. They're fucking. And they're getting paid to fuck. Same as a prostitute. You put a camera on the former and its protected by the first amendment.

Shouldnt even be an issue as prostitution should be legal but that's a thread for another time.

Atticus 09-18-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17514522)
And what if prostitution is legal? It's legal here, so if even if pornography were considered prostitution there can't exist a loophole because both things are legal.

DMCA is also an "american" thing. If non-us parts have a copyright conflict, DMCA become irrelevant for all parts. Also ISPs, courts etc... Jurisdictions are loopholes to?

Since I'm located in the US and Steve Lightspeed is also from the US I was basing the ironic comment on US laws.

Dirty Dane 09-18-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17514532)
But let's cut the shit.

Well, that's your personal "moral" opinion and not something decided by courts. Porn will still be porn if we remove money out the equation. Prostitution will not and that is the technical difference.

Prostitution is legal here, so it can't be a loophole for me anyway :)


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