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Pics Traffic 09-14-2010 03:56 PM
Congrats. Good news.

Zuzana Designs 09-14-2010 03:56 PM
Sounds like a great option Michael. I will shoot you an e-mail tomorrow.

Nicky 09-14-2010 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17502276)
We can certainly talk about that. Get in touch with me when you get a chance.


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Done.


and Bump

sperbonzo 09-14-2010 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 17503168)
Confirmed and agreed, amongst the largest banks in the country.


Congratulations, Michael! This is very exciting and I know you have been working a long time on development to bring this to fruition. I look forward to hearing more details and accepting funds via this new payment method for services provided by MojoHost.

:thumbsup

Everyone else... be patient and have some respect! Let's evaluate based upon merits, facts, credibility. All of us should be cautious but optimistic for any new innovations which create new options for us, add security and stability. With regard to the underlying bank details, Michael has already clarified that this information will be available pursuant to customers entering into a service agreement. Based upon my understanding of the inner-workings, rights and responsibilities of his company, the underlying banks and us the "customers" I believe that all bases are covered with regard to protection of funds.

Cheers,

Brad

Thank you Brad. We have been working very hard on this project, and I really appreciate the support of someone like yourself with our launch.



And Thanks to Sagi also! We are very excited about bringing this to fruition.


:)


More and more information, sign up procedures, etc... will be emerging as this week progresses.

Stay tuned folks!


.:thumbsup

epitome 09-14-2010 04:12 PM
Damn it, I want to be like everyone else a post a question that was clearly answered in the OP but I cannot think of any...

epitome 09-14-2010 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17503218)
Stay tuned folks!


.:thumbsup
Are you saying that details are in motion? :1orglaugh

ladida 09-14-2010 04:16 PM
Rofl. Names or the banks are a secret and shared "over the phone" with bigdogs. Haha. We don't want any poking. I'll just namedrop banks with few trusted friends that won't question too much and people are gona follow.

Sure.

Caligari 09-14-2010 04:24 PM
IPS Sounds promising.
I'm not sold on Payoneer (the name itself makes me wince) so I am holding out to see all emerging possibilities.

I have a feeling a nice graph will emerge soon showing the pros and cons of all viable solutions.

Jman 09-14-2010 04:29 PM
Very interesting mr. Sperber, I'll definitely be in touch with some questions.

jonnydoe 09-14-2010 04:35 PM
Great idea as I have mentioned previously but this is kinda weird on the bank(s). First everyone is skeptical due to recent history and secondly how would you expect to keep this information private and off the boards? It will only take one post somewhere...it is Chase (or whoever).

sperbonzo 09-14-2010 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17503254)
Rofl. Names or the banks are a secret and shared "over the phone" with bigdogs. Haha. We don't want any poking. I'll just namedrop banks with few trusted friends that won't question too much and people are gona follow.

Sure.
If you read through the thread you will see not only the reasons why they are not being mentioned here, but also the fact that the names of the banks WILL BE ON THE CONTRACTS.

I'm doing my best. You can't please all of the people all of the time I guess. :)

LeivaMedia 09-14-2010 04:41 PM
Michael so can you email me which banks are those please Thanks

Dan 09-14-2010 04:44 PM
Great News Michael. I know we have talked about this for some time. I am happy to see this come at this time of need for all of us in this industry. I look forward to getting this implemented call me lets work it in.

Klen 09-14-2010 05:01 PM
What a bullshit.

TylerBang 09-14-2010 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17503388)
What a bullshit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


What once was old is new again.

Its like a new girlfriend who is wonderful and perfect...not like the old one who was wonderful and perfect and now stinks.

directfiesta 09-14-2010 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEA (Post 17502126)
shady shady
I think you are really wrong ...

I would have no problem trusting him with my $$$$ :2 cents:

RyuLion 09-14-2010 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17503481)
I think you are really wrong ...

I would have no problem trusting him with my $$$$ :2 cents:
OMG! your Avatar is Epic!
Do you have a bigger pic of that? :1orglaugh

ladida 09-14-2010 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17503328)
If you read through the thread you will see not only the reasons why they are not being mentioned here, but also the fact that the names of the banks WILL BE ON THE CONTRACTS.
Yea, it's quite funny. Are you a politician? You are constantly referring to "if you read through thread you will see" "if you read statement more closely you will see" etc etc. Without giving a straightforward answer once, but constantly referring to others to "read into" something you have supposedly said, yet questions are asked. Exactly what a shady operation does. You will either answer or not. If you're hiding, you're hiding things for a reason, and a "major bank" would be no reason to hide. If you are actually waiting for "a formal announcement" to brake that in, then why create this thread? Way to shoot yourself in the foot. Excellent first thread! Way to go! GFY.

willwank 09-14-2010 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17503254)
Rofl. Names or the banks are a secret and shared "over the phone" with bigdogs. Haha. We don't want any poking. I'll just namedrop banks with few trusted friends that won't question too much and people are gona follow.

Sure.
You are one big tool.

They don't want any direct connections to porn. If you sign up you'll know soon enough.

Gee, what a landfill, thanks, click.

Blazing 09-14-2010 06:18 PM
looks promissing

TurboAngel 09-14-2010 06:26 PM
Congrats!

Domain Broker 09-14-2010 06:38 PM
so the fact that these banks don't want any ties to adult should make people in the adult industry put their trust in using this service?

ladida 09-14-2010 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17503518)
You are one big tool.

They don't want any direct connections to porn. If you sign up you'll know soon enough.

Gee, what a landfill, thanks, click.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
And i am a tool. God these fanboys that get paid to post and then make an ass of themselves are so fucking funny. At least read what you write.

BloodFart 09-14-2010 06:59 PM
so the banks are a secret because they dont want anything to do with porn but if we sign up they'll tell us, but we cant know here cause people will find out but.. wait.. what the fuck?

Domain Diva 09-14-2010 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17503570)
so the fact that these banks don't want any ties to adult should make people in the adult industry put their trust in using this service?
I must admit I did think the same thing....


Fair Question ?

What would happen if they received a lot of media attention or simlar connecting them to adult or it became well known they processed for the adult industry ,would they then pull the plug ?

ladida 09-14-2010 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Diva (Post 17503660)
Fair Question ?

What would happen if they received a lot of media attention or simlar connecting them to adult or it became well known they processed for the adult industry ,would they then pull the plug ?
Of course they would. That's why the fucking idea that "they are secret because they don't want to be connected to adult" is so fucking ludicrous its bordering retardation.

willwank 09-14-2010 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17503591)
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
And i am a tool. God these fanboys that get paid to post and then make an ass of themselves are so fucking funny. At least read what you write.
How do you get up from bed in the morning? My finch have better understanding of how this works than you do.

RyuLion 09-14-2010 10:09 PM
Thanks for the bumps guys..

Thurbs 09-14-2010 10:10 PM
Hey Mr Sperber,

I'll have people in touch ASAP we have been diligently pursuing new payout avenues for our affiliates.

Dating Port 09-15-2010 04:15 AM
As an affiliate, can I sign up to you directly and then shop sponsors on my own like I did with epass, or is this like a payoneer deal where you issue to sponsors only, thereby limiting my choices?

livesexoncams 09-15-2010 04:17 AM
Congratulations and good luck! Superb timing!

sumz 09-15-2010 05:13 AM
Interesting, very interesting! Hope you guys get it up and going soon and get sponsors behind you. Payoneer looks like complete mess.

Quagmire 09-15-2010 05:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17502137)
Wrong. Nothing shady here. This program is backed by the largest banks in the world.
Why can't you list off the namse of the banks, partners etc?

Throwing a claim out there without backing it is why it potentially looks 'shady'. Back when gambling was just booming, little fringe companies making these claims popped up all over the place claiming to be tied to large banks. They all vanished.

I can claim I shit gold bars and wipe with 100s, it doesn't make it true.

ladida 09-15-2010 05:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17503916)
How do you get up from bed in the morning? My finch have better understanding of how this works than you do.
0.20 cents poorly earned. Post some more.

willwank 09-15-2010 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17504475)
0.20 cents poorly earned. Post some more.
Yeah, here's some more. You are beyond help if you don't understand how big, medium and small north american banks already are an integral part of the adult entertainment industry. Have been for a long time and will continue to be. Thousands and thousands of accounts, an obscene amount of transactions. Do you think you will ever see a neon on times square from BoA saying "WE Make Porn Happen!" Do you think you will see TV commercials from Chase Canada saying "Your transaction is safe every time you enter a Chase powered XXX dvd store"

These guys must have (or are in the process of finalizing) a contract clearly addressing how involved brands are to be used (or not used) What basement trolls like you feel is irrelevant.

ladida 09-15-2010 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17505064)
Yeah, here's some more. You are beyond help if you don't understand how big, medium and small north american banks already are an integral part of the adult entertainment industry. Have been for a long time and will continue to be. Thousands and thousands of accounts, an obscene amount of transactions. Do you think you will ever see a neon on times square from BoA saying "WE Make Porn Happen!" Do you think you will see TV commercials from Chase Canada saying "Your transaction is safe every time you enter a Chase powered XXX dvd store"

These guys must have (or are in the process of finalizing) a contract clearly addressing how involved brands are to be used (or not used) What basement trolls like you feel is irrelevant.
Yea, you earned your 0.20 cents there. Here's some more for you to reply to, you'll get to a full dollar by the end of the day soon.

Go back to re-reading what you wrote, and then a few replies after, and realize how it makes no sense. But a post whore won't understand that. Noone even questions banks work with adult rofl, can you be more stupid? People use paypal to pay affiliates also, does that mean paypal endorses adult and do you see them claiming "WE ARE BACKED BY PAYPAL"? No, because it's hidden. He came in here boasting how they are backed by major banks wha wha all in try to secure some approval from people, but reality is, he's scared to post which bank because he's not backed by anything. All he is doing is hiding stuff from the bank, same as paysite owners do when they use paypal to pay affiliates.
"they are in process of finalizing balbla". If that's the case, then wait for the fucking deal to finalize.

Oracle Porn 09-15-2010 09:32 AM
lets see.... typos is original thread....site design looks to be from template monster or something worth $50 at most.... anyway it doesn't look good from my end but we will see how it goes.

ladida 09-15-2010 09:34 AM
Is also quite funny he needs a lawyer with 210 posts to defend him, and he can't answer a simple question, and the website looks like a 10 year old made it. Clearly something he made in a hurry to profit from the epass drama and take people's money away.

chronig 09-15-2010 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17505244)
Is also quite funny he needs a lawyer with 210 posts to defend him, and he can't answer a simple question, and the website looks like a 10 year old made it. Clearly something he made in a hurry to profit from the epass drama and take people's money away.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/imag...es/coolugh.gif

willwank 09-15-2010 10:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17505226)
Yea, you earned your 0.20 cents there. Here's some more for you to reply to, you'll get to a full dollar by the end of the day soon.

Go back to re-reading what you wrote, and then a few replies after, and realize how it makes no sense. But a post whore won't understand that. Noone even questions banks work with adult rofl, can you be more stupid? People use paypal to pay affiliates also, does that mean paypal endorses adult and do you see them claiming "WE ARE BACKED BY PAYPAL"? No, because it's hidden. He came in here boasting how they are backed by major banks wha wha all in try to secure some approval from people, but reality is, he's scared to post which bank because he's not backed by anything. All he is doing is hiding stuff from the bank, same as paysite owners do when they use paypal to pay affiliates.
"they are in process of finalizing balbla". If that's the case, then wait for the fucking deal to finalize.
Bloomer?

nico-t 09-15-2010 10:11 AM
the fact that all the bros are up this guys ass reminds me of the Chio debacle, like someone mentioned in here already. No objectivity at all from them, as usual.

nico-t 09-15-2010 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17505244)
Is also quite funny he needs a lawyer with 210 posts to defend him, and he can't answer a simple question, and the website looks like a 10 year old made it. Clearly something he made in a hurry to profit from the epass drama and take people's money away.
im not burning the site/system of the guy but i tend to agree with you^^^

i wont be touching this system for at least 6 months to a year, if at all

just because epass is maybe gone doesnt mean people won't think twice of which alternative they will be using. I think this business model's idea was "everyone is hyped up and want an alternative, they'll blindly sign up for anything"
Well, not me, and since Chio's system and the epass drama, I doubt many will...

BlueDude 09-15-2010 10:21 AM
the site name is in .net, that's not very promising.

sumz 09-15-2010 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17505462)
im not burning the site/system of the guy but i tend to agree with you^^^

i wont be touching this system for at least 6 months to a year, if at all

just because epass is maybe gone doesnt mean people won't think twice of which alternative they will be using. I think this business model's idea was "everyone is hyped up and want an alternative, they'll blindly sign up for anything"
Well, not me, and since Chio's system and the epass drama, I doubt many will...
I hear you and agree. But as the only alternative atm is Payoneer, which has huge fees, messy system and no support I am sure lots of people (including me) are willing to try it out with SMALL amounts.

Ethersync 09-15-2010 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sumz (Post 17505515)
I hear you and agree. But as the only alternative atm is Payoneer, which has huge fees, messy system and no support I am sure lots of people (including me) are willing to try it out with SMALL amounts.
Payoneer is not the only alternative...

RyuLion 09-15-2010 10:39 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LOUkTOfFLP...52_990x742.jpg

AaronM 09-15-2010 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 17502436)
If Sperbonzo has his hand in it it's solid :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You couldn't pay me to do business with that man or anything he is involved with. :2 cents:

sperbonzo 09-15-2010 11:07 AM
We will be holding gotomeeting conferences with Merchants and Affiliate Programs on Thursday and Friday to discuss all aspects of the features, functionality, fees, etc, etc.... These will take place at 3pm EST on Thursday and 1pm EST on Friday. All we ask is that Merchants sign an NDA prior to the online meeting. If you are a Merchant or Affiliate Program please contact us if you are interested.

[email protected]



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Ethersync 09-15-2010 01:02 PM
An NDA? Seriously?

BTW, I know several people that have written you on Skype and sent Emails, but heard nothing back.

...and if you offer something better than OKPAY I'll change my sig :)

sperbonzo 09-15-2010 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17506076)
An NDA? Seriously?

BTW, I know several people that have written you on Skype and sent Emails, but heard nothing back.

...and if you offer something better than OKPAY I'll change my sig :)
I've answered everyone I've gotten. I will have to check spam filters....



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