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  • Noe
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    • May 2004
    • 1082

    #1

    Western Union or Money Gram?

    Just curious as to why nobody is utlizing either for payouts temp? Too expensive or just too lazy to get off your ass and go into a retail location?
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  • Juicy D. Links
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    Cash in a FedEx overnight envelope is easier

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    • ajrocks
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2004
      • 4526

      #3
      Both those options are bad options. The charge a up front fee as well as charge a percentage of the money being sent. Its retarded. I'm really trying to get Payoneer setup but they can't seem to be bothered to respond to my emails. Its hard to believe in this day and age things can be this hard. LOL
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      • kristin
        GOO!
        • Sep 2002
        • 9768

        #4
        The fees are quite high and some countries don't have Western Union.

        We surveyed our WMs to see how they preferred to be paid and Western Union was not a popular choice.
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        • 2intense
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          • Dec 2009
          • 12495

          #5
          just too lazy
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          • Screwed Up
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 1120

            #6
            Lazy.

            In the US you can send money straight from your credit card or bank account through Western Union.

            Expensive?
            It's not more expensive than international wires to third world countries.

            So why? Because from a sponsor's pov it probably makes more sense to send a check that delays payout another two-three weeks.

            Xoom.com is another instant cash sending alternative.

            All these posts about "top notch" programs simply because they hold epass payments and ask affiliates to switch to wire/check is a joke.
            That's not top notch, that's common sense.

            Instant cash through western union/moneygram/xoom is top notch in my eyes.

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            • mn
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              • Oct 2001
              • 1505

              #7
              very hard working with them if you do to many transactions... they actually do follow AML for real.

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              • J. Falcon
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                • May 2006
                • 31645

                #8
                Also Western Union offers no guarantee. So if you're scammed, you're fucked. Furthermore, WM seems to be the preferred choice for scammers everywhere.
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                • signupdamnit
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6697

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mn
                  very hard working with them if you do to many transactions... they actually do follow AML for real.
                  I sent $200 to a relative once using them and they asked me all sorts of personal questions. I felt like telling them to forget it.

                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                  • Noe
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2004
                    • 1082

                    #10
                    Originally posted by J. Falcon
                    Also Western Union offers no guarantee. So if you're scammed, you're fucked. Furthermore, WM seems to be the preferred choice for scammers everywhere.
                    I'd say Western Union and Monegram are as close as you're going to get to a federally insured bank..it's not like we have alot of options. I tried to send some money to someone I was buying a couple of sites from I found on gfy..the western union rep was trying to talk me out of the transaction lol until I got the domains transferred. She said the story I was telling her sounded "fishy".
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                    • Noe
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                      • May 2004
                      • 1082

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                      Cash in a FedEx overnight envelope is easier
                      We're not talking about your gf's Juicy, was talking about affiliate payouts lmao.
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                      • 2intense
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                        • Dec 2009
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                        #12
                        none of them
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                        • Klen
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 32235

                          #13
                          Western union is maybe best transfer of all,but the problem is they have insane fees.Costed me 34$ to get 500$.

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                          • Noe
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                            • May 2004
                            • 1082

                            #14
                            Originally posted by signupdamnit
                            I sent $200 to a relative once using them and they asked me all sorts of personal questions. I felt like telling them to forget it.
                            That's why you have to go into a physical retail location..trying to do transfers over the phone or online is a bitch.
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                            • signupdamnit
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                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6697

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Noe
                              That's why you have to go into a physical retail location..trying to do transfers over the phone or online is a bitch.
                              You're right. I first tried to do it online then they made me do phone verification which I thought was ridiculous enough. That's when they started asking all the questions. In person perhaps it'd be easier.

                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                              • kristin
                                GOO!
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 9768

                                #16
                                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                Also Western Union offers no guarantee. So if you're scammed, you're fucked. Furthermore, WM seems to be the preferred choice for scammers everywhere.
                                Agreed, I got fucked by a Western Union scam and I had a bad feeling before I sent it and stupidly did it anyways. Was for an eBay transaction and I needed the item.

                                Eventually there was a lawsuit against the people and I won $19. Heh.
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                                • Kiopa_Matt
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 1448

                                  #17
                                  I'm using WU temporarily, except I'm at the point where I can't really anymore. Fucken Thailand.

                                  I have them all sent in my better half's name, but now they're starting to ask too many questions when he goes to collect. Fuck, 10 days and red flagged already. We're alright for now, but have to work on something more permanent asap.
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                                  • Kiopa_Matt
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                                    • Oct 2007
                                    • 1448

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Screwed Up
                                    So why? Because from a sponsor's pov it probably makes more sense to send a check that delays payout another two-three weeks.
                                    Do you really expect a sponsor to show up at a WU branch, with a bag full of $100,000, and a handful of papers with a large number of recipients? Then say, "here, process all these for me, please".

                                    Especially if it's in the US, the cops would be there within 15 mins.
                                    Last edited by Kiopa_Matt; 09-14-2010, 02:45 PM.
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                                    • JFK
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 67373

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Noe
                                      I'd say Western Union and Monegram are as close as you're going to get to a federally insured bank..it's not like we have alot of options. I tried to send some money to someone I was buying a couple of sites from I found on gfy..the western union rep was trying to talk me out of the transaction lol until I got the domains transferred. She said the story I was telling her sounded "fishy".
                                      WU is also collecting data on frequent transactions, to report for money laundering

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                                      • Noe
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                                        • May 2004
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JFK
                                        WU is also collecting data on frequent transactions, to report for money laundering
                                        That's probably why they'll be around for a while hehe. Guess that's the kind of thing that real financial institution's practice.
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