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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #1

    Michael O - Epassporte - time for some answers

    My funds are not available almost 2 weeks later , time for some answers.

    #1 what are the "program deficiencies" referred to by VISA regarding epassporte ?

    #2 What exactly are you/epassporte waiting for ?

    #3 Why can i not access/transfer my funds online , as visa has reported we should be able to.

    While i understand Michael is not epassporte , you are a rep and can find the answer to these questions as your customers would like/deserve to know.

    "fund are in motion" and "money is safe" are unacceptable answers.
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  • bufferover
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2004
    • 25209

    #2
    Let's hear what's the problem finally, if they still don't have a solution

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    • andrej_NDC
      Registered User
      • May 2004
      • 7760

      #3
      I don't think Michael has the answers. He may be the best thing that ever happened to epass, but only the owner and maybe few others know whats really going on. And its been just 1 working week.

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      • Odin
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 2545

        #4
        If another week passes like this one, epass is fucked. Sadly I have no expectation a thing will change. They've given not one straight answer since this begun, clearly they have a lot to hide.
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        • Agent 488
          Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 22511

          #5
          what good is epass if programs stop payout via them? fucking useless.

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          • 2intense
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2009
            • 12493

            #6
            Originally posted by Agent 488
            what good is epass if programs stop payout via them? fucking useless.
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            • RandyD
              Confirmed User
              • May 2007
              • 283

              #7
              They really had to get this shit sorted out or explained before the next sponsor paymeny period - they've done fuck all, they'll have virtually fuck all deposited by sponsors this month - it's DEAD.
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              • Wiredoctor
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2001
                • 1632

                #8
                Those are 100% valid questions and deserve answers ASAP. If consise answers are not given then that leads me to believe most of the theories that have been written already, epass is full of shit and in some deep trouble and all money is gone and Not "in motion" nor safe. !!!
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                • Magix
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 2616

                  #9
                  Michael O has a contract with epassporte and he can't say business secrets to anybody
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                  • Atticus
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1051

                    #10
                    He's not going to answer your questions. He's already stated that he's no longer monitoring the boards, even on "official" threads he started.

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                    • TeenCat
                      Too lazy to set a koala
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 16139

                      #11
                      i dont know mr mallick, but i have read that he solved some similar problem when he was with epoch? he doesnt look like guy who want to run, and now if he will, i think his online business is at the end. but as i say, i dont know him, i still have faith that we will be able to use epass visa again, as payoneer sounds so complicated with few sponsors only ... lets hope it will be solved now or soon

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                      • just a punk
                        So fuckin' bored
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 32393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chief
                        If another week passes like this one, epass is fucked.
                        Actually it is already happened. You don't have to wait for another week to understand this. As about Michael, so he is just a messenger. Don't ask him too much.
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                        • opflix
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1428

                          #13
                          1 - doesn't make any sense to announce 'the deficiencies' if they haven't been resolved cuz if they're not fixed with sufficient documentation, u aint gettin yo money

                          2 - "you can't get yo money" is probably not what you wanna hear so, they're probably working on #1 so you can get yo money

                          3 - st kitts is where yo money is at and st kitts intitiated the action that cut you off from yo money. please refer to number 1 as to why you can't have yo money.

                          basically, all these questions won't have answers until they're ready to say 'everythang is cool, y'all can have yo money!' ...so really, the only resolution is to STFU and wait cuz bitchin aint speedin up the process (note the epp official thread thats waaaay to fucking long)
                          Last edited by opflix; 09-13-2010, 10:40 AM.
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                          • Cyber Fucker
                            Hmm
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 12642

                            #14
                            Time is crucial factor here and people can't wait any longer for a "solution". People need their money to pay the bills and buy some food. Not saying what's the problem here is only making things a way worse. Even if it was a security issue, missing money or whatever. Only honest answers could give e'pass a bit of time for surviving the storm now.
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                            • roxxx
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 392

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Agent 488
                              what good is epass if programs stop payout via them? fucking useless.
                              for guys with 0 in their accounts it's no good, but for some like me.. it's very useless
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                                #16
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                                • fatfoo
                                  ICQ:649699063
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 27763

                                  #17
                                  By this time, I would say Epassporte should pay interest to customers and/or reduce fees because funds were locked in for several weeks.
                                  Send me an email: [email protected]

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                                  • JFK
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                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 67373

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Atticus
                                    He's not going to answer your questions. He's already stated that he's no longer monitoring the boards, even on "official" threads he started.
                                    where did he say that ? I must have missed it

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                                    • fris
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 55679

                                      #19
                                      epassporte is making a statement later today about making a statement sometime in the future but is 100% confident this future statement will happen
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                                      • Klen
                                        • Aug 2006
                                        • 32235

                                        #20
                                        I dont see point bugging Michael O since he obviously not getting any answers.

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                                        • mn
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 1505

                                          #21
                                          What I want to know is if the employees of epass have any contact at all with their boss and why we see epass employees (Shaliza for example) logged in to gfy every day following the posting here without leaving any replys...

                                          I do trust Michael though. He told me he is 100% sure it will be solved. So I still trust in epass but they handle this very bad. Very bad.

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                                          • Amputate Your Head
                                            There can be only one
                                            • Aug 2001
                                            • 39075

                                            #22
                                            1. Denial ? "I feel fine."; "This can't be happening, not to me."
                                            Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual. This feeling is generally replaced with heightened awareness of situations and individuals that will be left behind after ePass's death.


                                            2. Anger ? "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; "Who is to blame?"
                                            Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to converse with on GFY due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Any individual that symbolizes life or energy is subject to projected resentment and jealousy.


                                            3. Bargaining ? "Just let me get my money out please."; "I'll do anything for a few more bucks."; "I will give my left nut if only..."
                                            The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay the death of ePass. Usually, the negotiation for an extended payout is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand ePass will die, but if I could just have more time..."


                                            4. Depression ? "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "ePass is going to die... What's the point?"; "I miss my money, why go on?"
                                            During the fourth stage, the broke person begins to understand the certainty of ePass's death. Because of this, the individual may become a lurker, refuse trolling or spend much of the time crying and grieving. This process allows the disgruntled person to disconnect oneself from things like money and food. It is not recommended to attempt to cheer up an individual who is in this stage. It is an important time for grieving that must be processed.


                                            5. Acceptance ? "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
                                            In this last stage, the individual begins to come to terms with ePass's mortality or that of their money.
                                            SIG TOO BIG

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                                            • 2intense
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Dec 2009
                                              • 12493

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by opflix
                                              1 - doesn't make any sense to announce 'the deficiencies' if they haven't been resolved cuz if they're not fixed with sufficient documentation, u aint gettin yo money

                                              2 - "you can't get yo money" is probably not what you wanna hear so, they're probably working on #1 so you can get yo money

                                              3 - st kitts is where yo money is at and st kitts intitiated the action that cut you off from yo money. please refer to number 1 as to why you can't have yo money.

                                              basically, all these questions won't have answers until they're ready to say 'everythang is cool, y'all can have yo money!' ...so really, the only resolution is to STFU and wait cuz bitchin aint speedin up the process (note the epp official thread thats waaaay to fucking long)
                                              what ?????
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                                              • gumdrop
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 482

                                                #24
                                                Sounding more and more like a hostage taking...
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                                                • tranza
                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 57559

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                  ...
                                                  Nobody died.....
                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                  • Amputate Your Head
                                                    There can be only one
                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 39075

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tranza
                                                    Nobody died.....
                                                    clearly still in stage 1.
                                                    SIG TOO BIG

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                                                    • Marshal
                                                      Biz Dev and SEO
                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                      • 15219

                                                      #27
                                                      i'd love to hear the answers to those questions, too... it was the final time!
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                                                      • Mark22
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Sep 2010
                                                        • 5

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by opflix
                                                        1 - doesn't make any sense to announce 'the deficiencies' if they haven't been resolved cuz if they're not fixed with sufficient documentation, u aint gettin yo money

                                                        2 - "you can't get yo money" is probably not what you wanna hear so, they're probably working on #1 so you can get yo money

                                                        3 - st kitts is where yo money is at and st kitts intitiated the action that cut you off from yo money. please refer to number 1 as to why you can't have yo money.

                                                        basically, all these questions won't have answers until they're ready to say 'everythang is cool, y'all can have yo money!' ...so really, the only resolution is to STFU and wait cuz bitchin aint speedin up the process (note the epp official thread thats waaaay to fucking long)
                                                        :D

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                                                        • opflix
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 1428

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 2intense
                                                          what ?????
                                                          are you having trouble with your reading skills or do i need to use 'big words' for you to get the point? its sad that people don't have anything better to do but continuously post the same shit over and over... KISS... kill the dumbass 'we're gonna pressure you with GFY threads until you pay up' ...who believes that actually works?
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                                                          • tranza
                                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 57559

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                            clearly still in stage 1.
                                                            Lol...
                                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                                            • pinkbits
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                              • 367

                                                              #31
                                                              I am still waiting over 2 weeks to get paid. I call them. They tell me to email them again as a follow up.

                                                              Are these people just buying time i ask you guys?
                                                              Theses guys owe me over $50 000 US.

                                                              I am very stressed about this.

                                                              May i ask you guys is this a form of theft?

                                                              I love epassporte. BUt to be honest they have not told us anything at this stage at all. No one has come forward with a truthful response.

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                                                              • chronig
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Oct 2009
                                                                • 2653

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mn
                                                                What I want to know is if the employees of epass have any contact at all with their boss and why we see epass employees (Shaliza for example) logged in to gfy every day following the posting here without leaving any replys...

                                                                I do trust Michael though. He told me he is 100% sure it will be solved. So I still trust in epass but they handle this very bad. Very bad.
                                                                Why the fuck do you think?! Of course they are logging in every day... they want to know just as soon as any of us if they are going to be out of a job within the next few weeks...

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                                                                • chronig
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Oct 2009
                                                                  • 2653

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pinkbits
                                                                  I am still waiting over 2 weeks to get paid. I call them. They tell me to email them again as a follow up.

                                                                  Are these people just buying time i ask you guys?
                                                                  Theses guys owe me over $50 000 US.

                                                                  I am very stressed about this.

                                                                  May i ask you guys is this a form of theft?

                                                                  I love epassporte. BUt to be honest they have not told us anything at this stage at all. No one has come forward with a truthful response.
                                                                  How about you get the fuck off GFY and ask a lawyer if you really have 50k at stake fuckwad

                                                                  Got you people are dense

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                                                                  • Atticus
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 1051

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JFK
                                                                    where did he say that ? I must have missed it
                                                                    http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=986256&page=11

                                                                    Response 545. Unless I'm mistaken he hasnt made a post since.

                                                                    I wouldnt expect him to reply to every dumbass question but a daily update thread would be nice. Recapping the cluster fuck and assuring people that reps are still available.

                                                                    This has to be one of the worse PR jobs I have ever seen. So assuming nobody could possibly be this brain dead PR wise, it leads me to believe they realize they're fucked, so what's the difference.

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                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 47882

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                      clearly still in stage 1.
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                                                                      • minicivan
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                                                                        • Jun 2007
                                                                        • 943

                                                                        #36

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                                                                        • tranza
                                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 57559

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Atticus
                                                                          Unless I'm mistaken he hasnt made a post since.
                                                                          He posted today, on the following thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=986906&page=2 - post #59.

                                                                          I'm sure he's still monitoring the boards, and just decided not to post anymore.

                                                                          This way he wouldn't give more fuel to all the trolls and idiots over here..
                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                          • chronig
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Oct 2009
                                                                            • 2653

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                            1. Denial ? "I feel fine."; "This can't be happening, not to me."
                                                                            Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual. This feeling is generally replaced with heightened awareness of situations and individuals that will be left behind after ePass's death.


                                                                            2. Anger ? "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; "Who is to blame?"
                                                                            Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to converse with on GFY due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Any individual that symbolizes life or energy is subject to projected resentment and jealousy.


                                                                            3. Bargaining ? "Just let me get my money out please."; "I'll do anything for a few more bucks."; "I will give my left nut if only..."
                                                                            The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay the death of ePass. Usually, the negotiation for an extended payout is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand ePass will die, but if I could just have more time..."


                                                                            4. Depression ? "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "ePass is going to die... What's the point?"; "I miss my money, why go on?"
                                                                            During the fourth stage, the broke person begins to understand the certainty of ePass's death. Because of this, the individual may become a lurker, refuse trolling or spend much of the time crying and grieving. This process allows the disgruntled person to disconnect oneself from things like money and food. It is not recommended to attempt to cheer up an individual who is in this stage. It is an important time for grieving that must be processed.


                                                                            5. Acceptance ? "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
                                                                            In this last stage, the individual begins to come to terms with ePass's mortality or that of their money.

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                                                                            • JFK
                                                                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 67373

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Atticus
                                                                              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=986256&page=11

                                                                              Response 545. Unless I'm mistaken he hasnt made a post since.

                                                                              I wouldnt expect him to reply to every dumbass question but a daily update thread would be nice. Recapping the cluster fuck and assuring people that reps are still available.

                                                                              This has to be one of the worse PR jobs I have ever seen. So assuming nobody could possibly be this brain dead PR wise, it leads me to believe they realize they're fucked, so what's the difference.
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                                                                              • famous
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                • 674

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Exactly. You guys are treating the guy like shit. Hes not the owner so why be pissed at him. I dont get it. I understand he works for them but its no reason to abuse him. If i was him i would not post shit. MO has helped me serveral times over the years for epass misshaps and hes always taken care of it. If he could give everyone their money i am sure he would be the first to do it. For all you people who have worked for sales/customer support how would you feel if the company you worked for something like this happened and you have people threating you and asking you the same question over and over. Moral of the above dribble don't shot the messenger.

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                                                                                • Randy West
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                  • 1079

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                  I don't think Michael has the answers. He may be the best thing that ever happened to epass, but only the owner and maybe few others know whats really going on. And its been just 1 working week.
                                                                                  That what they said about Sammy Gravano regarding John Gotti. Look what happened?

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                                                                                  • Randy West
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                    • 1079

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                    He posted today, on the following thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=986906&page=2 - post #59.

                                                                                    I'm sure he's still monitoring the boards, and just decided not to post anymore.

                                                                                    This way he wouldn't give more fuel to all the trolls and idiots over here..
                                                                                    People wanting their money is considered a "troll idiot"?

                                                                                    You are an assclown

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                                                                                    • crowkid
                                                                                      o.g. spammer
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 1240

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      to those dumbasses threatening the guy's family: Hey he can't help you get your money back! you fucking dumb apes

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                                                                                      • tranza
                                                                                        ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 57559

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Randy West
                                                                                        People wanting their money is considered a "troll idiot"?

                                                                                        You are an assclown
                                                                                        I have over US$13k stuck there, and I do want my money.

                                                                                        But what good will it do to curse, and threaten Epass employees?

                                                                                        Specially Michael O that has helped this community time and again over the years. I cannot imagine Epass support without him, everyone that has ever needed some help from Epass through the years, got it from him. He's a great support guy, and is always willing to help.

                                                                                        People that go around calling names, and threatening, are doing no good to solve this issue.
                                                                                        I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                        • tranza
                                                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 57559

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by famous
                                                                                          Exactly. You guys are treating the guy like shit. Hes not the owner so why be pissed at him. I dont get it. I understand he works for them but its no reason to abuse him. If i was him i would not post shit. MO has helped me serveral times over the years for epass misshaps and hes always taken care of it. If he could give everyone their money i am sure he would be the first to do it. For all you people who have worked for sales/customer support how would you feel if the company you worked for something like this happened and you have people threating you and asking you the same question over and over. Moral of the above dribble don't shot the messenger.
                                                                                          I second that.

                                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                          • Dating Port
                                                                                            Useless As Ever
                                                                                            • Jan 2009
                                                                                            • 731

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                            My funds are not available almost 2 weeks later , time for some answers.

                                                                                            #1 what are the "program deficiencies" referred to by VISA regarding epassporte ?

                                                                                            #2 What exactly are you/epassporte waiting for ?

                                                                                            #3 Why can i not access/transfer my funds online , as visa has reported we should be able to.

                                                                                            While i understand Michael is not epassporte , you are a rep and can find the answer to these questions as your customers would like/deserve to know.

                                                                                            "fund are in motion" and "money is safe" are unacceptable answers.
                                                                                            Yes it is time for some answers.

                                                                                            Originally posted by Magix
                                                                                            Michael O has a contract with epassporte and he can't say business secrets to anybody
                                                                                            What business secrets? That they got cut off and why?

                                                                                            Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                            where did he say that ? I must have missed it
                                                                                            See next quote.

                                                                                            Originally posted by Atticus
                                                                                            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=986256&page=11

                                                                                            Response 545. Unless I'm mistaken he hasnt made a post since.
                                                                                            He has made several posts since.

                                                                                            Michael O,
                                                                                            Its time you took a step back and let Chris come forward to handle the allegations on this board and give us some answers. The last time Epass was in trouble, he came forward and explained very precisely what was going on.

                                                                                            See Thread http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=361415

                                                                                            Chris, take time out of your nbusy schedule and do it again.
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                                                                                            • epitome
                                                                                              So Fucking Lame
                                                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                                                              • 12156

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Come on guys, give Mallick some time!

                                                                                              He's got like 12 scripts in development and may have casting calls or something this week.

                                                                                              This Epassporte problem will have to wait. Sorry.

                                                                                              He's a smart man that has learned how to prioritize and delegate.

                                                                                              Our money is safe but is also in motion, we just have to trust him! How many times has he told us this already?
                                                                                              Last edited by epitome; 09-13-2010, 11:33 AM.

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                                                                                              • CYF
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                                                                                                • Mar 2009
                                                                                                • 10973

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                answers would be great, but I doubt we're getting any at this point.
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                                                                                                • Vick!
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                  • 6882

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Even though I have my money stuck, but I'd take the bitter truth rather than just hoping, waiting and being positive.

                                                                                                  Come on, tell us what is up with money. Are we getting, or not. If yes, when. That's it.
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                                                                                                  • Sid70
                                                                                                    Downshifter
                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                    • 16413

                                                                                                    #50

                                                                                                    Last edited by Sid70; 09-13-2010, 11:45 AM.
                                                                                                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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