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  • Redrob
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2004
    • 4791

    #1

    The Truth and What Really Matters....Or, How not to be a total, fucking tool.

    The Truth and What Really Matters....Or, How not to be a tool.

    This is about how webmasters are being used as tools and played for fools.

    Consider the following:

    179,630 names submitted at an estimated cost of $60 each is $10,777,800.00 being removed from our businesses and pocketed by ICM without any guaranteed new customers for any adult business. Do you hear that giant sucking sound????? That is the money being removed from your wallets because this money represents your existing profits. Your cost of doing business is not going to be reduced by one red cent. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

    If the FSC's arguments contained in our letter to ICANN on 9/8/2010 are " a variety of erroneous statements are repeated accusations that have been debated and refuted several times" and FSC's "claims were inaccurate, unsupportable, untimely, and irrelevant when first made, and remain so today," then why did ICM bother to respond as quickly as it did? The truth is that FSC's requests are to the point, timely, and show the weak link in ICM's claims. Every comment submitted in support of FSC and against ICM is another chink in ICM's claims. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

    If the deal was a done deal and there was to be no more consideration from the public, why would ICANN request 30 days of public input? The TRUTH is they are still considering whether ICM currently has the support that they alleged in their application for the sTLD. THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE SPONSORED COMMUNITY AND YOUR COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF FSC AND OPPOSING ICM DEMONSTRATE THAT LACK OF SUPPORT. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

    ICM's claim that Adult Webmasters need for more information concerning the ".XXX TLD, ICM Registry, or IFFOR is patently absurd" illustrates his total lack of respect for our request for full transparency of the process. Do you really think ICM will be more transparent when they are in total control? This is what the FSC asked for:

    1. The list of the IFFOR Board members;
    2. The list of proposed members of the Policy Council;
    3. IFFOR?s Business Plan/Financials;
    4. Business Plan/Financials Years 1-5 utilizing 125,000 Initial Registrations;
    5. The list of .XXX sTLD pre-registrants who have been identified to ICANN;
    6. ICM?s Proof of Sponsorship Community Support as submitted to ICANN.

    HELL, ICM won't even tell us who has been chosen to sit on IFFOR, the body that will be setting the policies and procedures that we will have to live by. I'd be afraid, very afraid. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

    Friday, I received an email from ICM requesting my support for ICM position. I feel sure that anyone who registered a domain with ICM received a similar email. Again, if the comments of the sponsored community are irrelevant, why did ICM send emails to everybody they could? Because, the deal isn't done and ICM's contract is not nailed down. The fat lady hasn't sung. ICM is trying to hustle support for his application and he knows how important the sponsored community's support is to the success of his pending application. THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE SPONSORED COMMUNITY AND YOUR COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF FSC AND OPPOSING ICM DEMONSTRATE THAT LACK OF SUPPORT. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

    ICM is using the oldest trick in the political book on the adult community....if you say something false loud enough, if you repeat it enough times, if you get your supporters to repeat what you are saying and stay on topic......you can get people to believe it is true. ?I am not a crook?, "There are the weapons of mass destruction", "Mission accomplished", etc. This tactic has been used to wear down the adult community's enthusiasm for fighting this issue. ICM's message that it is a done deal is a classic example of such a tactic. If you fall for the bullshit, your resistance is weakened and you can be manipulated for ICM's gain. The end goal is to dishearten our community to the point that you feel it is useless to respond and they can win by default. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

    I could go on and on......but; the TRUTH is that this is the final round of comments and you need to find the strength and resolution within yourselves to post your comments one more time. I'd suggest you copy and paste your old comments, my comments, or FSC's comments into the email and sent it.

    It will take you less than 5 minutes. Is your five minutes worth $10 million dollars? It is to ICM if they can stop you from sending that message. Just think about it.

    Here are the relevant links:

    FSC Letter: FSC Letter to ICANN Board

    ICM's Response: ICM's Response to FSC Letter to ICANN Board

    The email address to send your comments: [email protected]

    Originally posted by Redrob
    <A convenient copy and paste letter for your convenience. Be sure to change the color of your text if needed.>

    Email to>[email protected]


    Dear ICANN,

    I am a member of the .XXX sTLD sponsored community. I do not support ICM's application for the .XXX sTLD.

    I request that ICANN does the following:
    1. Verify that companies which ICM has listed in support are viable adult businesses,
    2. Verify that companies listed in support in fact do support ICM?s current application for a .XXX sTLD,
    3. Determine how many pre-registrations claimed by ICM are in fact defensive registrations,
    4. Determine how many pre-registrations are registrars or companies hoping to re-sell domain names.

    Additionally, I also request the following information also be released as requested in the DIDP from the FSC:
    1. The list of the IFFOR Board members;
    2. The list of proposed members of the Policy Council;
    3. IFFOR?s Business Plan/Financials;
    4. Business Plan/Financials Years 1-5 utilizing 125,000 Initial Registrations;
    5. The list of .XXX sTLD pre-registrants who have been identified to ICANN;
    6. ICM?s Proof of Sponsorship Community Support as submitted to ICANN.

    <INSERT ADDITIONAL PERSONAL COMMENTS and email to>[email protected]
    Yours,
    Redrob
  • Redrob
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2004
    • 4791

    #2
    Feel free to quote my post and use it in any other forum that would be interested in this issue.

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    • Redrob
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2004
      • 4791

      #3
      The direct link to ICM's response to the FSC letter is broken. Please click on the link below and then open the attached pdf file to read the letter.

      http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-revised-icm-agreement/msg00090.html

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      • Socks
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 8475

        #4
        Thank you for reminding me to send that in, done.

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        • gooddomains
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2003
          • 10127

          #5
          i love being a tool

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          • digitaldivas
            ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
            • Sep 2007
            • 4328

            #6
            thanks for the info
            ...

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            • Redrob
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2004
              • 4791

              #7
              Bumps for emails

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              • fuzebox
                making it rain
                • Oct 2003
                • 22352

                #8
                Sent my email.

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                • u-Bob
                  there's no $$$ in porn
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33063

                  #9
                  bump bump bump

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                  • Redrob
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 4791

                    #10
                    Note: After you send the email, you will receive a return confirmation email from ICANN that you must respond to for your email to be posted on the ICANN message board.

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                    • Redrob
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 4791

                      #11
                      Evening Bump

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                      • Nikki_Licks
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2005
                        • 6323

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Redrob
                        Feel free to quote my post and use it in any other forum that would be interested in this issue.
                        Great information, thanks!

                        I will post in some forums I visit.....
                        Amateur Content
                        ICQ: 292 356 077

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                        • Redrob
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 4791

                          #13
                          Morning Bump

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                          • Nikki_Licks
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2005
                            • 6323

                            #14
                            Back to the top

                            Get your comments in.....
                            Amateur Content
                            ICQ: 292 356 077

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                            • Redrob
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 4791

                              #15
                              10:32 CST, Sept. 13, 2010......a moment of reflection.

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                              • davecummings
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 2922

                                #16
                                We BETTER get our comments in, or we might be VERY sorry later. This thread needs action by ALL of us!!!!!!
                                Dave Cummings
                                www.davecummings.com
                                www.davecummings.tv
                                San Diego

                                Email--- [email protected]

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                                • Redrob
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 4791

                                  #17
                                  Evening Bump

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                                  • Redrob
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2004
                                    • 4791

                                    #18
                                    Night Bump

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                                    • davecummings
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 2922

                                      #19
                                      Please everyone---post your .xxx opposition to ICANN
                                      Dave Cummings
                                      www.davecummings.com
                                      www.davecummings.tv
                                      San Diego

                                      Email--- [email protected]

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                                      • pentae
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 899

                                        #20
                                        You mean the Adult Industry needs to get organised? We're fucked.

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                                        • Fenris Wolf
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 1059

                                          #21
                                          Email sent.
                                          Email: fenris_wolf3000 (a t ) yah00 . c 0 m

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                                          • Redrob
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2004
                                            • 4791

                                            #22
                                            Morning Bump

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                                            • davecummings
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 2922

                                              #23
                                              If we don't voice our opposition to .xxx, imo we will be hurt.
                                              Dave Cummings
                                              www.davecummings.com
                                              www.davecummings.tv
                                              San Diego

                                              Email--- [email protected]

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                                              • Redrob
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2004
                                                • 4791

                                                #24
                                                Lunch Bump

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                                                • Redrob
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 4791

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow, I found some bumps......

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                                                  • Redrob
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2004
                                                    • 4791

                                                    #26
                                                    Morning bump

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                                                    • TisMe
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2008
                                                      • 1719

                                                      #27
                                                      and another bump

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                                                      • davecummings
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 2922

                                                        #28
                                                        Good info--thanks!
                                                        Dave Cummings
                                                        www.davecummings.com
                                                        www.davecummings.tv
                                                        San Diego

                                                        Email--- [email protected]

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                                                        • Redrob
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                          • 4791

                                                          #29
                                                          Evening Bump

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                                                          • Redrob
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 4791

                                                            #30
                                                            Hey folks, only one more week of public comment period so express yourself to ICANN and protect your business.

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                                                            • harvey
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 9266

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Redrob
                                                              The Truth and What Really Matters....Or, How not to be a tool.

                                                              This is about how webmasters are being used as tools and played for fools.

                                                              Consider the following:

                                                              179,630 names submitted at an estimated cost of $60 each is $10,777,800.00 being removed from our businesses and pocketed by ICM without any guaranteed new customers for any adult business. Do you hear that giant sucking sound????? That is the money being removed from your wallets because this money represents your existing profits. Your cost of doing business is not going to be reduced by one red cent. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

                                                              If the FSC's arguments contained in our letter to ICANN on 9/8/2010 are " a variety of erroneous statements are repeated accusations that have been debated and refuted several times" and FSC's "claims were inaccurate, unsupportable, untimely, and irrelevant when first made, and remain so today," then why did ICM bother to respond as quickly as it did? The truth is that FSC's requests are to the point, timely, and show the weak link in ICM's claims. Every comment submitted in support of FSC and against ICM is another chink in ICM's claims. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

                                                              If the deal was a done deal and there was to be no more consideration from the public, why would ICANN request 30 days of public input? The TRUTH is they are still considering whether ICM currently has the support that they alleged in their application for the sTLD. THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE SPONSORED COMMUNITY AND YOUR COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF FSC AND OPPOSING ICM DEMONSTRATE THAT LACK OF SUPPORT. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

                                                              ICM's claim that Adult Webmasters need for more information concerning the ".XXX TLD, ICM Registry, or IFFOR is patently absurd" illustrates his total lack of respect for our request for full transparency of the process. Do you really think ICM will be more transparent when they are in total control? This is what the FSC asked for:

                                                              1. The list of the IFFOR Board members;
                                                              2. The list of proposed members of the Policy Council;
                                                              3. IFFOR?s Business Plan/Financials;
                                                              4. Business Plan/Financials Years 1-5 utilizing 125,000 Initial Registrations;
                                                              5. The list of .XXX sTLD pre-registrants who have been identified to ICANN;
                                                              6. ICM?s Proof of Sponsorship Community Support as submitted to ICANN.

                                                              HELL, ICM won't even tell us who has been chosen to sit on IFFOR, the body that will be setting the policies and procedures that we will have to live by. I'd be afraid, very afraid. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

                                                              Friday, I received an email from ICM requesting my support for ICM position. I feel sure that anyone who registered a domain with ICM received a similar email. Again, if the comments of the sponsored community are irrelevant, why did ICM send emails to everybody they could? Because, the deal isn't done and ICM's contract is not nailed down. The fat lady hasn't sung. ICM is trying to hustle support for his application and he knows how important the sponsored community's support is to the success of his pending application. THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE SPONSORED COMMUNITY AND YOUR COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF FSC AND OPPOSING ICM DEMONSTRATE THAT LACK OF SUPPORT. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

                                                              ICM is using the oldest trick in the political book on the adult community....if you say something false loud enough, if you repeat it enough times, if you get your supporters to repeat what you are saying and stay on topic......you can get people to believe it is true. ?I am not a crook?, "There are the weapons of mass destruction", "Mission accomplished", etc. This tactic has been used to wear down the adult community's enthusiasm for fighting this issue. ICM's message that it is a done deal is a classic example of such a tactic. If you fall for the bullshit, your resistance is weakened and you can be manipulated for ICM's gain. The end goal is to dishearten our community to the point that you feel it is useless to respond and they can win by default. THIS IS WHY YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

                                                              I could go on and on......but; the TRUTH is that this is the final round of comments and you need to find the strength and resolution within yourselves to post your comments one more time. I'd suggest you copy and paste your old comments, my comments, or FSC's comments into the email and sent it.

                                                              It will take you less than 5 minutes. Is your five minutes worth $10 million dollars? It is to ICM if they can stop you from sending that message. Just think about it.

                                                              Here are the relevant links:

                                                              FSC Letter: FSC Letter to ICANN Board

                                                              ICM's Response: ICM's Response to FSC Letter to ICANN Board

                                                              The email address to send your comments: [email protected]



                                                              Yours,
                                                              Redrob
                                                              Thank you for the letter template, mail sent
                                                              This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

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                                                              • Redrob
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                • 4791

                                                                #32
                                                                Why aren't you asleep in the middle of the night bump.

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