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03-17-2012, 12:31 PM | #901 |
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Please read "A clean break" put out by an Israeli think tank before 911. Everything is going according to plan, from the ouster of Saddam to the destablizing of syria. Israel's goal is to expand its borders, they can't do it by themselves with all these crazy arabs around. Company that shipped the all the evidence to china.. jewish owned.. building owner.. jewish... head of homeland security.. jewish... company that let the "hijackers" on the planes.. Israeli owned. 5 israeli's arrested on 911, owner of the company they worked for (urban moving systems) fled to israel before the feds got him... no news coverage... Hey it was the arabs! Everything else is a conspiracy theory!(retard emote)
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Muslimterrorists who hijacked a plane? Impossible! A tower that went down because a massive plane full of fuel flew into it? Impossible. A conspiracy where a government places bombs in their own towers without anyone seeing it, blowing up 2 towers for God knows what reason, killing 3000 of it's own people, fake the terrorists, remote control planes, make a few planes with people dissapear, having 1000's of people involved without anyone coming forward? Sure, no problem. Totally plausible. |
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We all know that muslim terrorists would never do such a thing.
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03-17-2012, 02:20 PM | #908 |
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I'm more thinking along the lines of one of these likely suspects
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Building 7 has nothing to do with 9/11 or the events of that day, it is blasphemy to talk about it and it never even existed.
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Not so much. Seems we are no longer in Iraq.
I've given this a lot of thought, and for a while you have to admit the US was in the perfect place to strike out at Iran. Iran was surrounded. But ten years later later, we've pulled out of Iraq, and Iran is still in power. Did the Bush administration do 9/11 to push us into Afghanistan, and then created a false reason to invade Iraq? So that we could surround Iran? On paper that sounds like a brilliant move. But in reality... Why would you invade two countries, when your real goal was to attack another country? This is where the false flag idea looses ground. No one would stage a false flag attack so that the US would attack a worthless country. If the goal was Iran, why not just covertly attack oil tankers in the gulf and lead tracks back to Iran - giving the world a reason to attack.
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In an interview with Amy Goodman on March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
It's taken a lot longer than planned, expect wars on Lebanon and Iran soon. Most likely Lebanon will be another UN Humanitarian/Regime Change scam, but only after Assad has been overthrown/assassinated in Syria (to free up CIA Proxy Army/Al Qaeda to go to Lebanon). They've created UN controlled South Sudan i.e. the oil region of Sudan. The British are drawing up oil contracts with Somalia, so there's only Lebanon and Iran left from the original list.
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Just like those muslim terrorists in the Lavon Affair episode. Oh wait they weren't supposed to get caught.
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Before he died he managed to spit out the words "Jewish Aliens" I dunno, im scared now. |
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why do people feel it would take 1000's of people to be involved to pull this off as a government conspiracy? however they feel that 19 semi retarded muslims and one bearded rich guy could pull it off with ease?
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Are they - jewish aliens - the anal probe type?
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They're regurgitating what they've been told by mainstream media propaganda outlets; the propaganda techniques focus on giving people 'beliefs' rather than solid information/science; the same technique used by religions. Thinking it would take 1000's of people is just a belief and is not based on real evidence or data. At the same time the propaganda outlets (like JohnnyClips says) have provided the people with a contradictory belief about how only a few muslims from third world countries would be required to carry out a major attack on the worlds greatest superpower.
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Before shipping off the girders and wreckage of the buildings, they should have had a fire engineer forensics team in there after which any and all tagged parts and then some would have been carted off to warehouses and other guarded lab environments for closer scrutiny. Quote:
Violation or negligent misapplication of the code is punishable by grievous fines, imprisonment or both depending on the severity of the offense. The editor of Fire Engineering magazine weighed in with his opinion: http://www.fireengineering.com/artic...stigation.html
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making whole plane loads of people vanish, staging phone calls from inside the plane. the people required to load and board the plane, the people required to rig the towers with explosives, the people required to cover it up afterwards. The media who were also apparantly in on it, The Jews etc etc you force all those people to be involved by the nature of your arguments, you bring them in as excess baggage. |
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The real government conspiracy occured in the years following 911 with the patriot act and the invasion of Iraq. I was involved and giving my support to movements trying to stop this and unlike you I was not 10 years old at the time. |
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"Large, industrial steel, and electrical conduits". The entire complex including the the towers were built on large, industrial steel. Fifty thousand people worked in this building, it has it's own zip code, and a massive amount of electrical and telecommunications conduits. It has it's own it's diesel power plants. At what point in time are you going to understand that finding these chemicals are not uncommon in a complex of this size. Quote:
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Dumbass, there were many thousands of people involved and people did try to stop it.
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I've seen plenty of pictures of aircraft debris around ground zero. /shrug.
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I don't know whether or not they do, but I've never heard of it. Have you or are you just using your "common sense" to assume this kind of welding is done with building construction? Finding thermite is pretty uncommon, I would guess, or it wouldn't get anyone's panties in a bunch, and finding military patented thermate is probably impossible, especially unignited stuff. However as I've repeated it wasn't the presence of but the high levels of the materials that was telling. Quote:
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Giuliani sealed off the pit and basically blocked all search and rescue while the dumptrucks were working 24/7. Fire Engineering is more than just an "online" magazine, btw, it's been around for over 130 years, longer than the NFPA, and is a recognized authority.
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For the first time in aviation disaster history, even the black boxes weren't recovered apparently. The FBI was down there, and two witnesses, at least one of whom was a cop assisting them, saw the black boxes recovered, but the FBI now denies this. So who knows? How can we know? Short of an investigation, of course...
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They use thermite to for telecommunications and electrical networks. I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands of miles of wiring they had in the WTC. Quote:
And I love how your implying they didn't have "access to the metal". They sorted everything, conducted multiple investigations, and then... What do you expect them to do with it? Kept it until the end of time? What they do with airplane scraps after their investigation, do they keep the pieces in warehouses until the end of time? Quote:
Why do we have to have NFPA investigate? Is the NFPA a government agency? Is it required by law that NFPA investigate? How many more investigations do we need? The debris were removed off site and then reviewed and tested. Their investigation was so detailed that they had forensics experts looking for bone fragments.
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And here is something else about thermite.... As they were removing the debris from the WTC, they had to remove these huge steel girders.... Just seems to me they would have used thermite on a daily basis to cut those pieces down to size so they could remove them...
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Everything was pulverized. There were few of any plane parts that could be recovered. Therefore, a conspiracy? And no, dude, it is not against "all probability". What now? Are you saying that the planes should have bounced off?
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Are you telling me that they always find every black box and they are magically in perfect working order after every plane accident? Really? Because a quick google search tells me other wise.
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Flight 93 - Both black boxes recovered. Flight 77 - Both black boxes recovered. One of them, the cockpit voice recorder, was too badly damaged to be used. Here's a picture of what was left of the damaged box as used at trial for Moussaoui. Of further note, this is not the first time that a black box was recovered but unusable. It's happened at least 4 other times.
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You're fucking retarded. 3 of the 4 found were working.
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Why don't you read the transcript? Here's a link to flight 93's cockpit voice recorder transcript.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/0...transcript.pdf How can you possibly be taking part in a discussion when your basic understanding of the facts is something you're making up as you go along? Absolutely incredible.
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With the exceptions of a couple high-altitude crashes where debris was inaccessible, and several deep-sea crashes where it was lost, yes - most every airline disaster has had it's black boxes recovered.
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Collapse itself is against all probability. Sudden onset and symmetrical collapse, not once but in three different instances, is even less likely. Molten steel is impossible in any office fire; jet fuel cannot melt steel. Why is it so hard to believe they were demolished, especially when the theory put forward by the government is devoid of evidentiary support, and so much testimony and evidence to any alternative or just another investigative path is just dismissed? Isn't that in itself suspect?
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"For the first time in aviation disaster history, even the black boxes weren't recovered apparently." And that is incorrect. And this is typical of the so called "truth movement". You make a statement that is not really true and then expand on it. "It's impossible to find Barium" (except for in light bulbs) and "It's impossible to find thermite" (which is used in communications gear), and then you say there was no investigation - even though I have a paperback book downstairs that says otherwise. Everything the truth movement comes up with can be explained away.... Squibs - compressed air taking the path of least resistance Explosions - well, there were explosions all over the place that day WTC - ten hour fire Molten steel - was it really steel? Or was it aluminum - Or tin foil. It's just comical to me that all of these things can easily be explained.
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lol! Stop... just ... stop.
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I don't have your gift for nit-picking...
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Actually, it was intermittent fires that roved from fuel source to fuel source throughout the day; nothing that would fell a building; even your trusted authorities say it wasn't enough to bring it down. The length of time it burned is secondary, according to the NIST theory, to the combination of damage and that one particular fire that "thermally expanded" a horizontal support beam. It could have burned for as little as the thousand-foot towers and still would have gone down, according to their description. Quote:
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You do this all the time. You say that buildings never fell like that before, THEREFORE XYZ must be TRUE. [/quote] No Greg you've got that wrong. Actually, it;s conspiracy theorists that overlook scientific fact in their zealous attempts to simultaneously deny reality and spin some kind of fantasy world where they are clued in to what?s really going on. I think you automatically push anything out that doesn't agree with your pre existing determination of 9/11 invents.
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I'd love to know how Jet fuel made pockets of heat that were 2000 degrees under the rubble for 6 weeks after the crash.
Even Gouliani testified to this.
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