Correct.

Dude 5k I've got 40 fucking times that in epass. coming on here and bitching doesn't help anyone. MO is just trying to help it has nothing to do with him so why are you taking out all your anger on him.

Thanks MO I appreciate you keeping us posted

So what your saying is by putting money even into a bank account you assume risk of them doing anything they want with it? Whether the bank goes under or stealing it and saying ur fucked? Your at least assured with a bank. You are really a fucking moron and that statement proves it. Since when is the adult biz or any biz for that matter high risk retard? Its a biz like any other. I dont rely on credit cards to make money. I could of easily just used paypal the whole time but tons of people dont use paypal or cannot have it. I dont even own a paypal credit card. Only reason i own 1 for epass is because we have to which is bullshit. Why cant I just transfer money to my bank like paypal? Oh thats right. Now they tell us during this crisis we can with the wallet and that is what its main purpose is lol. Little late.

You have $200,000 in an epassporte account? :1orglaugh

.. and take 30-40 working days to clear, and take a month to even get to you, and cost $10-15 to bank, and you get hit with a 5% currency conversion fee, and some banks also point blank refuse to cash them.

:)

Michael, I like you and hope you or any one else doesn't get burned by this... but I have seen so many people in your situation in the past and it never ends up good. You have the best intentions and rely on people in upper management who either don't have the best intentions or they just give you wishfull information and baseless guarantees.

Has anyone in the past that ran into problems with visa ever had it turn out good? It's like when Visa put the hammer down everyone gets screwed and the company is out of business within 6 months or less.

This is what makes me the saddest, the 'short term memory' that runs rampant in this biz, the company I did not want to name (as I did not want to give them one more searchable result lol) is Braz zers (there maybe that will help) Damn near EVERY SINGLE problem that has happened in this biz in the last 6 months is tied back to them being investigated OR spanked by the Gov.

Banks, WMC, Programs closing due to the banks, and now it looks like Epass is also caught up in the mix, as I said in a prior post, someone mentioned to me that this looks an awful lot like a RICO case, and when I sat back and looked at the past 6 months that's EXACTLY what it looks like, banks, payment centers, and transfer places ALL EFFECTED!

If it turns out that I and others are right and it's because of Braz zers that this happened THEN will you (not you two per say) STOP sending them traffic and selling them ads? (that is if the feds don't shut them down first) or will it it be back to biz as usual?

-Loki-

Your 40 fucking times that is not a concern here. For some people 1k is needed to pay rent and bills or they are out on there ass. 5k to some people isnt shit...5k to most is so your analogy means nothing in terms of this situation. i dont know you. I dont know what you do in this biz and therefore you could be bullshitting. I can care less. Most of these people are trolls and dont make anything on here. My point is Michael is not telling us anything worth me feeling better about this. Most people in here are saying how this is another ibill or another web billing like long ago where they declared bankruptcy and no one got any money. That makes me feel like being appreciative because he is telling us that he does not know whats wrong and theres no answer? I understand you cant find stuff out until monday but come on..You have no idea why this happened and how safe is our money seriously....

I believe in ePassporte and I have ~20k stuck in there.
Hope things will get back to normal soon.

i know a dude with $100k+, he was crying to me on aim :helpme

Why in the world would anyone leave that much money in someone else's hands when it is unsecured. At least with a bank you are protected up to 300K if the bank goes out of business. Epass (or any 3rd party type company) could close tomorrow and you can't get your money. Blows my mind how much money you people trust in the hands of others.

1. I do not think CM had to resort to something illegal to finance. He does not come off as a stupid person.

2. You seem to think otherwise. I would love to hear why.

3. I called them trolls, not idiots. Huge difference.

4. I would not be surprised to learn that the movie caused an investigation, but I would be very surprised to hear something illegal went on in the financing of the flick.

What part of this did you never understand or take the time to read. If you were stupid enough to leave all your money in VV then you're the one that fucked yourself so stop whining.

Oh.. And let's not forget this part right on the main page when you log in.

Accusations and assumptions are flying in every direction. This is on track to be the longest thread in gfy history.

SUCKS for Canucks :(

visa had a good reason to do something this big and it wasn't because there was some sugar missing from their coffee this morning.

Once again you non reading fuck. I was paid 2 days prior to this. Epass wont even let me take my limit out daily which they could not give me a reason why months ago when I had it raised. Now I have that much stuck in there. No rocket science. fucked myself? Your as smart as a bullfrog.

What about the people that only have Epass as the only payment option?
No checks, no wire......no other acc????

Loki, what I wonder is, what will you do once it is shown that Brazzers actually has absolutely nothing to do with any of this? Will you apologize? Of course you won't, its much too easy to blame someone than to admit you were wrong...

Only time will tell, and considering Brazzers was not the cause of any Visa/Mastercard rule changes, any banks being closed or shut down, or the WMC fiasco, I'll be quite amazed if Brazzers has anything to do with this right here...

ya well he trusted epass for years, and he prolly makes 20-30k/month so he just leaves all the money there and takes it as he needs it.. so he might make 20k in one month, but he will spend only 10k

Canadiens you mean. :1orglaugh

Yeah... clearly you're the smart one leaving it all in VV when you knew you couldn't take it all out anyway. A smart person has it all automatically put into the wallet and only transfers money to VV when they're heading to the ATM to make a withdraw. But I guess that's too complicated for you.

Where do I suggest even illegal ? I did not bring up the subject , you did ... But timing of both events are pretty close .. when there is smoke ...


But lets take me .. I have some money .. And I fell like financing a rock show because .. I like the look of the chick .. and I will be in contact with cool people ... and it flops ....

Was it illegal : no
Does it affect my business : yes
Will my creditors be affected : most probably

So please, do not comeback with your one liner question faking your ignorance .. You are not a stupid man , so don't try to play it ...

i'll never understand why you guys would ever deal with epassporte. it's been nothing but various issues since it was started.

[QUOTE=Quote:
Did you know...

If you do not regularly use your ePassporte Visa Virtual or Visa Electron card, ePassporte recommends transferring your balance to your Wallet as an added security measure. When you are ready to use your ePassporte Visa Virtual or Visa Electron Card, you can instantly transfer funds from your Wallet to your Virtual Account online, free of charge. Simply click on the "Transfer Money" tab on the left side of the menu bar under the "My Account" section.



Oh.. And let's not forget this part right on the main page when you log in.[/QUOTE]

Lets recap please about your idiotic answer here. Why would I have to use the wallet IF I have never LOST my epass card? WHY would I have to put my money into the wallet when I AM USING it daily and doing biz with it? WHERE is the warning that IF epass gets screwed my visa, ONLY way we can get our money is with transfer to the bak or debit card ONLY with the wallet option? THERE FUCKING ISNT SO EAT A BIG GAIN GREEN HORSE COCK :)

So it is business as usual on the Brazzers/Manwin end eh?

Once again you must not use the card or know much about it as often as I do. I dont need to put anything in my wallet to take money out daily at the atm. Why would i need to use the dumb ass wallet? By not using it, I can DO EVERYTHING the same with the virtual visa. Keep trucking along. You just keep looking dumber :). Im done with you for the night. 3 to me and 0 to you cockstain thanks.

I am not stupid, I have friends working non-management as well and I have asked them whats up and from 5 years working with ePassporte I more or less know what happens around the office despite being 10K miles away. I am confident that this is a hiccup (a major one) and we will be back with the same features and stronger than ever.

Thanks for the positive updates Michael.

For a Thai controlled affiliate account would a wire transfer to a Thai bank be possible?

And for a UK affiliate account withdraw to a HSBC UK visa credit card, a HSBC UK visa debit card, or a HSBC UK bank account wire transfer?

Could I add a UK card to the Thai controlled affiliate account as it shows the country option on the add new card page? I changed my country from Thai to UK once several years back and the account got locked untill I sent in some ID, would adding a card from a different country cause the same security issue?

You will see people offering " transfer " solutions for a cut.

Example : you receive epass walletr . You transfer to me in Epass wallet ... I withdraw to my US acount ... I pay you thru my paypal account ..

Check tomorrow for these types of offers...

I fell bad for you guys that rely on Epass as main " banking " solution ... Let\s hope it gets back to normal .

Well he either has a very large monthly income or he was storing it there rather than bringing it onshore to be taxed.... :2 cents:

perfect:Oh crap

thanks for that...I am smart enough to have it in my wallet though "oh no he didnt" anyone who collects and pays out as much as I do would...I make 50k transactions on epass every other day. when you make huge deals its pretty easy to end up with that much in an account. How much do you think the big sponsors load their accounts with before payouts?

You're the one that can't get at your money because you didn't take precautions to protect it. Anyone that's been in this business for any length of time knows to not trust anyone and to get their cash as fast as possible into their hands and into their own bank.

As for the score... I'd say it's 0 to you and 3 to us cockstains since you're the one that's fucked and we're not.

There are alot of people with 6 figure amounts stuck in epass right now. Those people must be shitting bricks.

1) I agree CM made his money and then some long before he entered the movie biz. If he did research he would know that, thats how I know.

2) Me too

4) Nothing to do with each other 2 completely different companies.

IF (and that is a HUGE IF) Braz zers has absolutely nothing at all to do with this then I will be more then happy to apologize, as I have NEVER been one to shoot my mouth off, and WHENEVER I'm wrong I'm the first to admit me.

But spin this however you wish to spin this, it is a solid fact that Braz zers used EVERY SINGLE one of the services closed down / froze / investigated etc, they were the common thread to each of those places, that you can not deny however you can spin it.

The banks that were shut down DID tell their customers WHY they were being shut down.

But hey, like I said, IF I'm wrong and Visa is not locking down to further trace back money tied to Braz zers & Co. I will make a nice public apology :thumbsup

-Loki-

And I have to keep on top of it :Oh crap

Yeah. As frustrating as this also is to us, I bet things are extremely hectic on your end.

Thanks for coming here and putting up with us Michael.

No matter what happens - Michael O deserves to be crowned the king of customer service yet again. Have dealt with him on a couple of occassions and he is always 100% professional and on the ball.

Kudos to you Michael - you're handling this thread like a pro!

Yeah, and no disrespect intended (this is always when you know the disrespectful part is coming), but that's kind of their own fault, no?

For example, PayPal is a much larger company than ePass, but do you think I would ever leave $200,000 sitting in there? Fuck no!

When adding a new card you will have to verify it by sending in documents, ID, front and back of card (can block middle 8 digits) and recent statement or utility bill for the card.

You can add the card to the account if there are any issues please email me.

LOL, I guess he still at the ATM still trying to withdraw

Good Q for Michael.

They should be able to load to their Wallets, pay as usual, affils will accept thru the Wallet. Basicly just the card is kaput.

Might as well void out the Virtual Visa setting in Wallet settings. I know I will be damned sure it is set to Wallet.

How bout the guy who didnt log on to Epass or see this thread. I had mine set to Virtual Visa till I seen this thread. I mean there are dollars funneling into the great abyss as we speak for guys set to Virtual Visa.

I believe there has been no email on this from Epassporte. I may be wrong. I never got any tho.

ICQ

Please use email but I am not getting off line messages on ICQ so if you have message med with no answer please message me again.

I'm doing this as i speak. Can we email you the documents to get it processed faster?

Can I be your intern? :)

I wonder what will happen tomorrow when we call them and request to wire the funds we just sent them back to us.

PLEASE EMAIL ME
I will get back to you as quickly as possible.
12 new ICQ messages in less than a minute I can not keep up.