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Matyko 09-02-2010 11:06 PM
Very nice news to wake up for... Me and my gf both had card renewals this month and we have ~10k stuck in our virtual accounts.. Crazy... :(

webgurl 09-02-2010 11:07 PM
Just read every single last post .... I know tomorrow when I wake up I will have to read another 10 pages <sigh> .
Those that use my program and concerned about this issue , contact me direct I am the owner , I will make changes for you asap .
Thanks

Loki 09-02-2010 11:07 PM
Oh, and let me add, I would be willing to bet dollars to fucking donuts that this issue it tied right back to the one company I'd love to meet the owners of in a darkened ally with no witnesses.

The same company that has single handedly<sic> fucked us as an industry over and over AND is the same company that was the cause of WMC having their accounts frozen... you know the one.....

And with this in mind it's no surprise at all that Visa would lock down all the cards, while higher forces look at money trails. and yet some of you will STILL continue to send them traffic, sell them ad space and whatever else.

That company NEEDS to be purged from the industry it has been nothing but a stain for too long, mark my words IF and WHEN more back end info about this comes out, it will allllll trace back to that one single company!

(kind of surprised more people have not mentioned this yet)

-Loki-

pornstar2fag 09-02-2010 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki (Post 17463048)
Oh, and let me add, I would be willing to bet dollars to fucking donuts that this issue it tied right back to the one company I'd love to meet the owners of in a darkened ally with no witnesses.

The same company that has single handedly<sic> fucked us as an industry over and over AND is the same company that was the cause of WMC having their accounts frozen... you know the one.....

And with this in mind it's no surprise at all that Visa would lock down all the cards, while higher forces look at money trails. and yet some of you will STILL continue to send them traffic, sell them ad space and whatever else.

That company NEEDS to be purged from the industry it has been nothing but a stain for too long, mark my words IF and WHEN more back end info about this comes out, it will allllll trace back to that one single company!

(kind of surprised more people have not mentioned this yet)

-Loki-
Look deeper.... it's been mentioned.

xxweekxx 09-02-2010 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki (Post 17463048)
Oh, and let me add, I would be willing to bet dollars to fucking donuts that this issue it tied right back to the one company I'd love to meet the owners of in a darkened ally with no witnesses.

The same company that has single handedly<sic> fucked us as an industry over and over AND is the same company that was the cause of WMC having their accounts frozen... you know the one.....

And with this in mind it's no surprise at all that Visa would lock down all the cards, while higher forces look at money trails. and yet some of you will STILL continue to send them traffic, sell them ad space and whatever else.

That company NEEDS to be purged from the industry it has been nothing but a stain for too long, mark my words IF and WHEN more back end info about this comes out, it will allllll trace back to that one single company!

(kind of surprised more people have not mentioned this yet)

-Loki-
what company???

will76 09-02-2010 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17462361)
oh man...i hope this is fixed soon..shit

time to change all sponsors over to checks
Oh no, don't say checks it's "so 1990's" and checks are stupid. :winkwink: People have been ripping on me for years why I prefer to receive my payments from sponsors in checks. Now you see one of the reasons why I've selected that option... cuts out the middle man and potential problems. Send it to me, i get it, no one else. No potential for losing the money.

Tempest 09-02-2010 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 17462588)

I think the new way of P2P money will be this company I just found out through my bank....

www.popmoney.com I am set up but have not used it.... anyone else know about it or set up through their bank?
Is this really new in the US? We've been able to "email" money between our major banks in Canada for several years now.

flashfire 09-02-2010 11:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17463042)
I ASSume you still can not transfer from Wallet to Bank acct. Which sort of makes the wallet useless too. Wallet just protects the money.

But maybe I am wrong.

Can you transfer from Wallet to Bank acccount? Or withdraw anyway from the Wallet?
yeah you can transfer from wallet to US bank account

PlugRush Sascha 09-02-2010 11:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17463042)
I ASSume you still can not transfer from Wallet to Bank acct. Which sort of makes the wallet useless too. Wallet just protects the money.

But maybe I am wrong.

Can you transfer from Wallet to Bank acccount? Or withdraw anyway from the Wallet?
You can transfer from wallet to bank account or a debit/credit card.

directfiesta 09-02-2010 11:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17462879)
I hope those of you that think this has something to do with the movie are just trolling and not serious.
Do you have inside info on how that flick was financed ?

PS: I really don't care as all my payments are processed thru my merchant account ort checks/wire .. I will gladly give away the 100$ or so I had in Virtual Visa to a charitable org such as animal protection group.

Loki 09-02-2010 11:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17463053)
Look deeper.... it's been mentioned.
I know it has been mentioned, but as I said I'm surprised it's not been mentioned MORE, instead it's a bunch of trolling about the movie, and people NOT reading the answer to a question and asking it over and over and over again, and a few trolls sprinkled in for flavoring.

The thing I'm more worried about is the sharks that will use this situation, and the poor sheep that will fold, and more-so the people who will panic more and pull out all funds (whales and or programs) which will then possibly wreak Epass once this is all resolved.

I don't want to see (not that it's up to me) everything fall to shit because of one shity company and their bastard cohorts.

a word was said to me tonight and I FULLY believe it to be the case it makes perfect sense with all that has happened so far.....

"His name was ________ he wore a diamond"
~Barry Manilow Copacabana

Fill in the missing word :thumbsup

IF that is correct then I have a good feeling that this will all be sorted out and biz will return as 'normal' BUT if tons of ppl bail then 'normal' might never return for most of us

-Loki-

sologirlcontent 09-02-2010 11:16 PM
fuck I'm so glad a customer DIDN'T pay me a few grand for content..as I requested it through epass...I'm done with them, it is over.. no way Visa did this shit under the radar..it's too big

pornstar2fag 09-02-2010 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17463065)
Do you have inside info on how that flick was financed ?

PS: I really don't care as all my payments are processed thru my merchant account ort checks/wire .. I will gladly give away the 100$ or so I had in Virtual Visa to a charitable org such as animal protection group.
lolzzzzzz. If you think a fucking film did this shit then you better go check out 'faces of death'. No film did this.

dichotomy 09-02-2010 11:17 PM
Oh boy! Time for plan B!

In any case, I do hope that ePass pulls through, it has, in many ways, become an industry standard for payments worldwide and this might be "OH SHIT, OOHHH SHIIIT!!!" we were all having nightmares about.

Worst case scenario - we get a decent tabula rasa in the end because oh so many will go down if the situation wont be resolved in a positive manner during next few weeks.
Every cloud has a silver lining, even if you have to catch that mofa and paint it on yourself.

Just be real, things involving banks in "islands" and VISA does not get resolved in 15 minutes.

Good luck, have a little faith and, please, hurry up, I'm really hungry! :D

P.S.

Yelling at Michael wont help, tho I do understand the urge to vent it all out.
Remember, don't shoot the messenger!

FlexxAeon 09-02-2010 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17463061)
Oh no, don't say checks it's "so 1990's" and checks are stupid. :winkwink: People have been ripping on me for years why I prefer to receive my payments from sponsors in checks. Now you see one of the reasons why I've selected that option... cuts out the middle man and potential problems. Send it to me, i get it, no one else. No potential for losing the money.
checks bounce

webgurl 09-02-2010 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktj4l (Post 17463064)
You can transfer from wallet to bank account or a debit/credit card.
Does the Credit Card option work for all countries / currencies ?
So if someone has a Canadian Visa Credit Card can you get it transferred
the funds will just convert itself ?
I would like to know if anybody has experience in this already ?

pornstar2fag 09-02-2010 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki (Post 17463068)
I know it has been mentioned, but as I said I'm surprised it's not been mentioned MORE, instead it's a bunch of trolling about the movie, and people NOT reading the answer to a question and asking it over and over and over again, and a few trolls sprinkled in for flavoring.

The thing I'm more worried about is the sharks that will use this situation, and the poor sheep that will fold, and more-so the people who will panic more and pull out all funds (whales and or programs) which will then possibly wreak Epass once this is all resolved.

I don't want to see (not that it's up to me) everything fall to shit because of one shity company and their bastard cohorts.

a word was said to me tonight and I FULLY believe it to be the case it makes perfect sense with all that has happened so far.....

"His name was ________ he wore a diamond"
~Barry Manilow Copacabana

Fill in the missing word :thumbsup

IF that is correct then I have a good feeling that this will all be sorted out and biz will return as 'normal' BUT if tons of ppl bail then 'normal' might never return for most of us

-Loki-
let's just say the folks who are doing the looking know.

lagcam 09-02-2010 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17463042)
I ASSume you still can not transfer from Wallet to Bank acct. Which sort of makes the wallet useless too. Wallet just protects the money.

But maybe I am wrong.

Can you transfer from Wallet to Bank acccount? Or withdraw anyway from the Wallet?
Yes you CAN withdraw from wallet to bank account or pre-registered credit/debit card and if you do not have one registered you can transfer funds in the wallet to another account and withdraw from there, (IF that has a route out) HOWEVER make sure that the second account has incoming funds automatically set to go into the wallet not the card. (click wallet and select this option)

The transferring funds works and withdrawal shows as successful, however obviously it will take a few days to see if it clears ok.

Ironically, in my case, the sum I transferred just now was automatically reduced when I checked my second account with the fee for a new visa card !

JM-cj 09-02-2010 11:20 PM
Some one try to withdraw via wire, a US bank account or to a credit/debit card in your name.
Is it work or bank 100% dead?

Vjo 09-02-2010 11:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktj4l (Post 17463064)
You can transfer from wallet to bank account or a debit/credit card.
Thanks guys. At least all incoming from here on is accessable then.

xxweekxx 09-02-2010 11:21 PM
basically everyone is withdrawing their money..... this isnt good either.. u guys are gonna kill epass prematurely, if they arent already dead

Matyko 09-02-2010 11:21 PM
Michael O is da man for coming here and trying to help us. :)

tiger 09-02-2010 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki (Post 17463068)
I know it has been mentioned, but as I said I'm surprised it's not been mentioned MORE, instead it's a bunch of trolling about the movie, and people NOT reading the answer to a question and asking it over and over and over again, and a few trolls sprinkled in for flavoring.

The thing I'm more worried about is the sharks that will use this situation, and the poor sheep that will fold, and more-so the people who will panic more and pull out all funds (whales and or programs) which will then possibly wreak Epass once this is all resolved.

I don't want to see (not that it's up to me) everything fall to shit because of one shity company and their bastard cohorts.

a word was said to me tonight and I FULLY believe it to be the case it makes perfect sense with all that has happened so far.....

"His name was ________ he wore a diamond"
~Barry Manilow Copacabana

Fill in the missing word :thumbsup

IF that is correct then I have a good feeling that this will all be sorted out and biz will return as 'normal' BUT if tons of ppl bail then 'normal' might never return for most of us

-Loki-
If his name is "RICO" that doesn't sound like good news.

pornstar2fag 09-02-2010 11:22 PM

flashfire 09-02-2010 11:23 PM
well it does make sense that VV would be frozen and the wallet wouldnt...think of VV as a pre paid visa card

will76 09-02-2010 11:24 PM
Im surprised some of you people are acting surprised. My bank blocked epass over 3 years ago. I haven't been able to even load my account for over 3 years.

Posted back in 2007:

Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12482857)
Sorry I am frustraited.

Chase bank is blocking them so I can no longer use my chase debit cards to load money. I've been going round and round with the bank since Chase bought out my old bank, Bank One. Chase would manually remove the block for me, it would work for a month then it would be blocked again. We did this about 4 times and then the bank finally said, sorry epassporte is completly blocked you can't transfer money to them.

This is what Chase told me: Chase has a new system enhancement for our fraud department when it has to do with internet gaming, or gambling. They decline any request now where the merchant has specified their line of business is gaming or gambling. With the new system enhancement they stated we aren't even able to now go in and remove the status so that even that specific transaction can go through. This is something through Visa for debit cards so we have no control over their decision. So as long as the business entities has themselves listed as internet gaming or gambling our customers will no longer get approval on their debit cards for the transactions...

Roald 09-02-2010 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki (Post 17463068)
I know it has been mentioned, but as I said I'm surprised it's not been mentioned MORE, instead it's a bunch of trolling about the movie, and people NOT reading the answer to a question and asking it over and over and over again, and a few trolls sprinkled in for flavoring.

The thing I'm more worried about is the sharks that will use this situation, and the poor sheep that will fold, and more-so the people who will panic more and pull out all funds (whales and or programs) which will then possibly wreak Epass once this is all resolved.

I don't want to see (not that it's up to me) everything fall to shit because of one shity company and their bastard cohorts.

a word was said to me tonight and I FULLY believe it to be the case it makes perfect sense with all that has happened so far.....

"His name was ________ he wore a diamond"
~Barry Manilow Copacabana

Fill in the missing word :thumbsup

IF that is correct then I have a good feeling that this will all be sorted out and biz will return as 'normal' BUT if tons of ppl bail then 'normal' might never return for most of us

-Loki-
Why not just mention them? I don't have time to go through all pages to look for clues :2 cents:

Michael O 09-02-2010 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17463019)
1. Micheal I withdrew money yesterday to my bank account is that going to go through?

2. Do you have an idea or time frame of when you think you guys will get people access to their money again?
1) If money is already taken out of your account then money is on the way to you.

2) sorry no not yet

will76 09-02-2010 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17463073)
checks bounce
LOL.... if the sponsor doesn't have money then it doesn't matter what method they try to use. That is irrelevant. It's all about trying to keep as little people as possible having their hands on your money. Wire transfer is ideal but in most cases too expensive.

Michael O 09-02-2010 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17463042)
I ASSume you still can not transfer from Wallet to Bank acct. Which sort of makes the wallet useless too. Wallet just protects the money.

But maybe I am wrong.

Can you transfer from Wallet to Bank acccount? Or withdraw anyway from the Wallet?
You can withdraw from the wallet but not using the Virtual/Electron card

baddog 09-02-2010 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17463042)
I ASSume you still can not transfer from Wallet to Bank acct. Which sort of makes the wallet useless too. Wallet just protects the money.

But maybe I am wrong.

Can you transfer from Wallet to Bank acccount? Or withdraw anyway from the Wallet?
Wire to US bank.

adult-help 09-02-2010 11:27 PM
so does that mean that the money epass (=our money) has in their bank is still accessible to them, it i just that we cant access it with our visas? Because if they also got their account blocked and some of you even say they knew about this coming and it doesn't makes sense to me why would they keep the money there if they knew the lock down is coming? Wouldn't they transfer it to different bank in this case?

Michael O 09-02-2010 11:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 17463074)
Does the Credit Card option work for all countries / currencies ?
So if someone has a Canadian Visa Credit Card can you get it transferred
the funds will just convert itself ?
I would like to know if anybody has experience in this already ?

Most countries but a few do not allow it, is possible to Canada.
If you have a CDN card we send CDN to you if you have a USD card we send USD

directfiesta 09-02-2010 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17463071)
lolzzzzzz. If you think a fucking film did this shit then you better go check out 'faces of death'. No film did this.
I just asked a plain & simple question : does he know how the film was financed.

For your info, I was heavily involved in that business and saw things that nobody here would believe.
.. and I am not 22 year old tatooed punk ...

simple question : where did he take the 22 million to do that flick .. and please, do not answer the bank... How did he pay for the completion bond ?

sojproductions 09-02-2010 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17463087)
Why not just mention them? I don't have time to go through all pages to look for clues :2 cents:
What he said..

NinjaSteve 09-02-2010 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 17462586)
God I saw the writting on the wall several months ago, thank god I got rid of them when I did! Good luck to everyone trying to get their money out!
What are you talking about. :321GFY

Vjo 09-02-2010 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17463076)
Yes you CAN withdraw from wallet to bank account or pre-registered credit/debit card and if you do not have one registered you can transfer funds in the wallet to another account and withdraw from there, (IF that has a route out) HOWEVER make sure that the second account has incoming funds automatically set to go into the wallet not the card. (click wallet and select this option)

The transferring funds works and withdrawal shows as successful, however obviously it will take a few days to see if it clears ok.

Ironically, in my case, the sum I transferred just now was automatically reduced when I checked my second account with the fee for a new visa card !
Thanks. Good info. Sounds like the transfer should go thru since you got no glitches from epassporte's end.

baddog 09-02-2010 11:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17463100)
I just asked a plain & simple question : does he know how the film was financed.

For your info, I was heavily involved in that business and saw things that nobody here would believe.
.. and I am not 22 year old tatooed punk ...

simple question : where did he take the 22 million to do that flick .. and please, do not answer the bank... How did he pay for the completion bond ?
No, I do not. Enlighten us.

pornstar2fag 09-02-2010 11:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 17462455)
Easy for you to say when you cant use the money that you earned to pay for ads or traffic or even bills...This should NEVER be a problem with such a heavily used company and if so there should be other options or backups to solve this and for people to be able to still get there money. Eggs into 1 basket is the problem. I rely on paying through epass and taking money out for bills etc. This is my life so you can take that mumbo jumbo elsewhere. This is bad bad biz and the longer this is a issue where people cant send out money to another epass holder and not pull money out, then you will see a massive backlash. Some people rely on epass sending money to foreign partners for biz and this haults biz which haults income and harm lives. its bad enough we have a fucking recession and now this???
hey check it out. i got some news for you, and everyone else in this whole business.

we ALL play in the HIGH RISK adult market. we RELY on CREDIT CARDS to make money, EVERYONE RELIES on them. EVERYONE.

you play in the high risk game you assume some of the risk.

VISA controls how long any of us get to play this game.

get that in your dome and process it.

if you don't like it, LEAVE and go fucking flip burgers.


:2 cents:

webgurl 09-02-2010 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17463095)
Most countries but a few do not allow it, is possible to Canada.
If you have a CDN card we send CDN to you if you have a USD card we send USD
Thanks Michael ,

I am in Canada but my Visa's are USD so it's the same difference right? I just
don't want some annoying screwed up exchange rate between US/CND
cause ebay/paypal has this issue all the time where I pay for things on my USD Visa
but it converts it into CND currency on the invoicing because of my address .
It just doesn't recognize that a transaction is done using a US credit card with
a purchase made in Canada .
This is soooooooo annoying :disgust

DavieVegas 09-02-2010 11:36 PM
Glad Michael and everyone cares about the people who kept funds in there wallet. All i see in here is bla bla bla i dont barely use epass or thank god i didnt have much in there fuck off...I got more then a few thousand sitting in my virtual epass from someone who just paid me and i fucking cant stand how epass doesnt let me take out more then 800 and my limit is 1k btw a day. Makes no sense at all. Thanks to them I have to make a billion trips and because of them not telling us about this wallet stuff where u have to have money in there to transfer to bank account it fucks us all. We wont see a fucking dime of the money in there and i hope they rot in hell. Perfect timing with bills and new month too. Fucking cocksuckers....

Michael O 09-02-2010 11:36 PM
1) Statement from Mr Mallick said suspended not closed.

2) Money on Wallet can still be withdrawn but no by using the ePassporte Electron or Virtual card.

3) We are doing everything we can to get this solved.

4) It WILL get solved

5) Consider the wallet a kind of bank account and then you move money from there to cards to be able to use it, thats why this money is not affected.

6) We DO NOT have access to move your funds around when they are in your account/card they are so speculation about the funds being used for something else is totally unfounded

7) Personal note I am 100% convinced we will be back stronger than ever, I have talked to people I trust 100% in management and other people on the "floor" and from what I hear I have no doubts. It sucks I know I did not have time to withdraw myself I were called at 5am my time but I am confident that it will only be a short while and soon everything will be back to normal.

donkevlar 09-02-2010 11:38 PM
Send me epass for paypal, I'll buy it at 50%. ;)

Loki 09-02-2010 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17463082)
If his name is "RICO" that doesn't sound like good news.
Actually IF that is the case it is nothing BUT good news for the rest of us, That company (NOT Epass) NEEDS to go the fuck away, as all they keep doing is fuck the rest of us due to their own shady shit, banks have lost CC processing, programs have folded cause they did not have back up processing and they were caught with a closed one, Tubes, stolen content, card banging etc etc etc, Rid the net of that one company (and it's other arms and legs) and things would FINALLY return to somewhat 'normal' around here.

I HOPE it's that, and with the past 6 months or so it seems to fit.... lets see what happens with Paypal next, as I KNOW it's used from time to time, IF it happens to PayPal will people say the same things they are saying now? or will it be a bit calmer?

-Loki-

Michael O 09-02-2010 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17463100)
I just asked a plain & simple question : does he know how the film was financed.

For your info, I was heavily involved in that business and saw things that nobody here would believe.
.. and I am not 22 year old tatooed punk ...

simple question : where did he take the 22 million to do that flick .. and please, do not answer the bank... How did he pay for the completion bond ?
Research his history before starting to make allegations.

directfiesta 09-02-2010 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17463104)
No, I do not. Enlighten us.
Enlighten us ????

I did not affirm anything, contrary to you that called people idiots ( or similar ) because they thought that a 22 million + personnally financed flop could " shake " a business...

I know you like your one liners ( trying to look smart ) , but honestly in this thread they are out of place . :2 cents:

Vjo 09-02-2010 11:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17463091)
You can withdraw from the wallet but not using the Virtual/Electron card
Thanks Michael. That's real important. At least then incoming goes into our Wallets (when set in Wallet settings) and we can transfer (wire) to our US bank account as always.

Then nothing further is frozen.

Michael O 09-02-2010 11:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 17463111)
Thanks Michael ,

I am in Canada but my Visa's are USD so it's the same difference right? I just
don't want some annoying screwed up exchange rate between US/CND
cause ebay/paypal has this issue all the time where I pay for things on my USD Visa
but it converts it into CND currency on the invoicing because of my address .
It just doesn't recognize that a transaction is done using a US credit card with
a purchase made in Canada .
This is soooooooo annoying :disgust

If you have a USD card our processor should recognize it and send you USD instead of CND if not let me know.

directfiesta 09-02-2010 11:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17463120)
Research his history before starting to make allegations.
Michael , were do you see allegations ? It is not allowed to answer an allegation of another poster ....

Seriously, you can keep what i have in PDGGROUP .. give it to charity if you ever gain access to VV again . Bookmark it.

jazzyjenn 09-02-2010 11:41 PM
hey Michael, where's Chris? Can he post something?


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