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Old 09-09-2010, 11:25 AM   #2801
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Thursday regular working hours have not passed everywhere. it is 2:22 pm EST and only 11:22 am in California.
So that gives around 12 hours remaining.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:27 AM   #2802
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:30 AM   #2803
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So that gives around 12 hours remaining.
When Michael posted about news in the next 10 hours I figured it out at that time to be around 9pm EST which is about 6 1/2 hours from now.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:32 AM   #2804
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do you believe in Santa? It was only to calm down the users, doesnt have an official Statment comming today, you shitsssss

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Old 09-09-2010, 11:34 AM   #2805
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propably they will post statement at time when we will sleep. to avoid mass furious calls, emails and stuff like that.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:36 AM   #2806
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:39 AM   #2807
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This is the message that i see + other people see when you login into ePass



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Just logged in - no message.

That may be good news though that some are seeing that as it maybe some policy which cardholders need to verify to get things rolling again?
and maybe this can be true
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:40 AM   #2808
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maybe good news or maybe they just buying time..
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:42 AM   #2809
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:42 AM   #2810
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This is the message that i see + other people see when you login into ePass





and maybe this can be true
I have this crap on mine also..no reason why i should.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:43 AM   #2811
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I submitted verification documents to epassporte a year ago. I thought everyone had to do this?
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:43 AM   #2812
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maybe good news or maybe they just buying time..
I would say so...Chris thought he'd make millions with our money. I am sure he just had 20 million sitting around to make a movie.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:45 AM   #2813
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I would say so...Chris thought he'd make millions with our money. I am sure he just had 20 million sitting around to make a movie.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:47 AM   #2814
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This is getting really lame and unprofessional that we, the clients off epass whose money is frozen are kept in the dark for so fucking long!
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:47 AM   #2815
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and maybe this can be true
Don't see that in mine but I submitted all the documentation they wanted years ago.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:49 AM   #2816
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I got the same document verification message, but days before this whole situation unfolded.

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propably they will post statement at time when we will sleep. to avoid mass furious calls, emails and stuff like that.
Sleep ? Whats that ...
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I also do not have the document requests, and I did do them about 2 years ago.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:55 AM   #2819
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This is exactly how I treat my clients when I havn't done the work which has been promised for months.. I just ignore them...
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If you don't have the documents then you shouldn't have a epassporte account since you're either laundering money or involved in some other illegal activity...
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We don't see the message, but when I click upload documents, I am seeing a line that says :

There are presently no card-holder documents on file for this account.

But above that message it says :

No documents are requested at this time...
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I have this crap on mine also..no reason why i should.
Well it can be a good sign, so the sooner that you upload those will be better i think, maybe is to control the money laundering that is in statement around the net
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Is there somebody from Germany reading this?
I wonder what you sent them as "credit card statement"? We usually don't have such statements for credit cards here...

Btw, I am seeing the request for documents because I specifically asked about it (the credit card on file was not verified).
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This is exactly how I treat my clients when I havn't done the work which has been promised for months.. I just ignore them...
Remind me never to do business with you then, thanks.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:04 PM   #2826
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ok guys here is the statement ready fresh https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/986256-statement-epassporte-please-read.html
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......+1 is better that people don't read that
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Your link is valid. The statement is bullshit.
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that is bullshit. there is something ePassporte don't want to tell us.
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Don't see that in mine but I submitted all the documentation they wanted years ago.
ya, nothing like that on mine either.. i had submitted it a long time ago as well..

but if this is popping up on everyone else accounts, then it might be safe to assume that the issue Visa had was the suggested problem of the new credit card laws... and that they are doing something to make things compliant...
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:54 PM   #2835
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Eery similarities...

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iBill Update
We just posted this on CMI:

September 29, 2004 iBill Clients: Please know that paying our clients is our highest priority. iBill is continuing to negotiate the release of settlement funds being withheld by First Data in order to pay our clients. In addition to our continued negotiations with First Data, we are working on freeing up additional capital to speed up the remittance of past due payments to our clients.

As you all know, we have been working through the difficult issue of transitioning our domestic IPSP business to our new domestic merchant bank at a pace that was faster than what was initially proposed or had been planned. In order to ensure proper compliance for our US sponsored merchants we will not be accepting Visa transactions until each US sponsored merchant has completed their new iBill merchant agreement with our new domestic bank. All US clients will continue to have the ability to offer MasterCard, Discover, JCB, American Express, Online checks, Web 900 and WebPhone. iBill account managers will have agreements available on Friday, October 1st. Planned implementation is scheduled for as early as Friday, October 8th.

We appreciate all of the support that our clients have given us over the last few days. We know how serious this matter is to you. Please be assured that everyone here at iBill is working diligently to correct these matters so that we can all return to business as usual.

Sincerely,
Your iBill Team
That BS continued for years and in the end most people were not paid.

I understand that the statement from ePass tried to draw a distinction regarding their business model, but when they cannot tell anyone after a week (4 business days) the simplest reason for the their accounts being frozen, something is not right.

I lost over $30,000 with iBill who "intended to pay", assured me my money was safe, and valued me as a client, and in the end all that they gave me was a worthless promissory note.

I hope all of you fair better than that and can eventually recover ALL of your money.

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Very sad to lose money of course but this is good news for CCBILL programs.
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i'm going to rob bank tomorrow to pay my bills. who else want to be in charge?
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Very sad to lose money of course but this is good news for CCBILL programs.
What the fuck are you talking about??? lol..

CCbill and epass are two totally different business models providing 2 totally different services...
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I am hoping that is just a statement from Michael, and not the statement that is supposed to be released today...
Well it is bloody well signed with his name...and all it says is.

Your money is stuck, it's complicated. Shut up, stop bugging us, and when we have some news we will let you know but we see no need to bug you will constant updates about what is happening with your money.

Did I get that about right?

No information on where the money is.
No ETA when wires will go out.
No information on where the money is that people wired into Epass and has not shown up.
No update on VV funds and access to them.


I guess folks, it's just too complicated for us "dumb folk" to understand.

I really really really hate being talked down to.
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CCbill and epass are two totally different business models providing 2 totally different services...
CCbill and epass are agregators of money. You can work with many aff programs and get money in one place. Now it will be very hard to work with small aff programs and get cheques or wire transfers from them
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fuck, this statement is very similar to the one from "Chris Mallick". There is no happy ending for this story.

Also now happy ending for Mr. Mallick - or I can't see him live happy ever after. To many people would like to get a hold on him. I think the FBI will get to him first and that might be the best ending for him. Mr. Mallick is only buying time - he knows the money is gone for the movie "Middle Men" and that is stealing but as long people just sitting tapping the keyboard and not telling the FBI about this he is a free man. He is just buying time.

he got a whole week free - when he should be behind bars. Someone should post a report for FBI. So if he run he can get on the MOST WANTED list.

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i'm going to rob bank tomorrow to pay my bills. who else want to be in charge?

ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

here you can make a report for:

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Anyone made the report yet?
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No statement yet?
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We at ePassporte are as distressed as you, our valued cardholders, over an action that we did not see coming and as of today we still have received no good basis for it.

First, be assured that your funds are fully safe and protected. You are owed that and it will be fulfilled. The funds are secure.

Second, ePassporte is working with the St. Kitts bank to work out how all payments will be made and when. The details are complicated, because there are funds in motion and where and when they settle requires us to all be careful that we fully and properly account for all those funds and their rightful owner. This issue stems from our processing and reporting ability through the Visa system and their processor.

Third, ePassporte's most important asset has always been our account holder's. We are not going to undermine that asset by treating cardholders in any manner other than the best we can.

Most of us have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with banks and card associations that simply ?cut us off? and did not pay us. Those actions were limited to card acquiring (merchant accounts), not card issuing, which is what we do. We can all take some comfort in the fact that this situation is not anything like the acquiring side of the business.

We all fully understand that communication to our cardholders is critical. However, it does not help any of us if we are constantly updating you on the basis of the calls that take place almost hourly. It seems to us that giving you facts, based on agreements we are working on is the best form of communication. This is what we will be doing. When we know something, that is a fact, we will report it, quickly. Our staff is all working diligently to resolve these issues and the many moving and complicated parts of getting the funds returned. Therefore, please do not mistake our silence as ?hiding?, ?avoiding? or ?stringing you along?. We too have funds that are stuck in the system, as well as massive costs of operation without any income.

Rest assured that when we know, you will know and you will all be satisfied with the results. Again, your money is safe.

For those of you that have been in the industry for many years, I hope you will recall that I have a very strong track record of fighting for the rights of webmasters, program sponsors, billing companies, merchants and the industry; that dedication continues.

Thanks you for your understanding in this difficult time and for your support over the last 8 years of our operations.

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Old 09-09-2010, 02:48 PM   #2848
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Just checked and got the Account Alert as well, have send the info like twice but heh will NOT do this again, fuck it.
I just take my loss and move on ....... yep I lost a bundle.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:50 PM   #2849
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back to checks, wires and even PayPal if I have to.
Payoneer sucks so ........
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:54 PM   #2850
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Originally Posted by wyldblyss View Post
Well it is bloody well signed with his name...
Shit, ya.. I guess when I read the statement that really said nothing, i was frustrated and simply missed that last line with the lil fuckers name..

Well I was a bit optimistic the other day, but if that is his statement that answers no questions at all after an entire week, then I have lost quite a bit of hope for epassporte..

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CCbill and epass are agregators of money. You can work with many aff programs and get money in one place. Now it will be very hard to work with small aff programs and get cheques or wire transfers from them
That is a minor bump in the road.. and if checks are an issue from sponsors.. ccbill will be no different..

ccbill will not benefit from the peer to peer money transfers which was epass's main business, however companies similar to paypal might see some action.
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