Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe

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    • Jun 2003
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    #1

    Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe

    next time some religiouse person bangs on, tell them god does not exsist becase Stephen Hawking (British) says he does not.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11161493
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  • Viewfinder
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    • Aug 2002
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    #2
    Does this mean anal is not a sin after all?

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    • Amputate Your Head
      There can be only one
      • Aug 2001
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      #3
      if god doesn't exist, then who put Palin here because there's no way natural selection came up with her.
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      • Barry-xlovecam
        It's 42
        • Jun 2010
        • 18083

        #4
        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
        if god doesn't exist, then who put Palin here because there's no way natural selection came up with her.
        What a book a devil's chaplain might write on the clumsy, wasteful, blundering, low, and horribly cruel work of nature!
        Charles Darwin

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        • gmr324
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          #5
          does that mean I wasted all those hours sleeping in CCD class?

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          • damnage
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            #6
            A stephen hawkings an authority on such matters because........
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            • xmas13
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              #7
              Hawking said we gotta get out of this planet. Hey bitch where is my spacecraft??????????
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              • wig
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                #8
                Originally posted by damnage
                A stephen hawkings an authority on such matters because........
                I don't know about his authority on anything other than physics, but if I remember correctly it may be because he and Penrose wrote a book where they basically said that there was a singularity in the sense that there was a "beginning".

                Later, he changed his position saying that GR breaks down and something about scalar fields, and that we don't know what happened just before the big bang, more specifically whether there even was a "beginning".

                His original position is still used to provide support for cosmological arguments such as the Kalam cosmological argument:

                (1) Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
                (2) The universe began to exist.
                (3) Thus, the universe has a cause.

                It is premise 2 which is at issue.

                Maybe he's just firing back.
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                • CDSmith
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                  • May 2001
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by wig
                  Maybe he's just firing back.
                  Or, more likely, he's hawking out of his ass.


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                  • DVTimes
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                    • Jun 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by damnage
                    A stephen hawkings an authority on such matters because........
                    he is british
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                    • BFT3K
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                      • Dec 2005
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                      #11

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                      • dyna mo
                        just a fucking jerk
                        • Dec 2008
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                        #12
                        it's a lot more simple than that brainiac makes it out to be-

                        dingleberries are proof god does not exist.

                        you think god would engineer the sun and the earth in perfect harmony for life and not figure out dingleberries, come on!

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                        • JD
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                          • Sep 2003
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                          #13
                          the universe IS god... OH SNAP

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                          • justinsain
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            it's a lot more simple than that brainiac makes it out to be-

                            dingleberries are proof god does not exist.

                            you think god would engineer the sun and the earth in perfect harmony for life and not figure out dingleberries, come on!
                            God saw his own dingleberries and that's how he came up with the idea to have moons circle Uranus

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                            • La_Sexorcist
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by JD
                              the universe IS god... OH SNAP
                              What he said!

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #16
                                Originally posted by justinsain
                                God saw his own dingleberries and that's how he came up with the idea to have moons circle Uranus
                                damn it, i knew there was a hole in my theory!

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                                • cam_girls
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                                  • Apr 2009
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                                  #17
                                  Oh FFS there's been proof I'm the son of God and 5,000 witnesses for 10 years.

                                  10,000 morons on the internet - No you're mental

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                                  • Overload
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                                    #18
                                    doesnt take a genius to know god is fiction, no? ppl with a low brain capacity settle for religion - to explain what their feeble brain cant explain ... simple ... no brain = strong believe
                                    There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Overload
                                      doesnt take a genius to know god is fiction, no? ppl with a low brain capacity settle for religion - to explain what their feeble brain cant explain ... simple ... no brain = strong believe
                                      the article is in regards to hawkin's reversal of believing a higher power created the universe.

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                                      • cam_girls
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Overload
                                        doesnt take a genius to know god is fiction, no? ppl with a low brain capacity settle for religion - to explain what their feeble brain cant explain ... simple ... no brain = strong believe
                                        Explain this Einstein.


                                        1/ Who wrote The God Delusion? (clue Rich Dawk)

                                        2/ Who is the richest BILLionaire?

                                        3/ Who is the FASTEST runner on Earth?

                                        4/ Who authorized the Star Wars program? (clue RayGun)

                                        5/ Who planted the flag on the moon?

                                        6/ Who did you Barrack for at the last presidential election?

                                        -----------------------------------------------------------------
                                        ARE THE FOLLOWING ANSWERS INTELLIGENT? (OR JUST RANDOM QUOTES)
                                        YES or NO

                                        7/ "Are Genesis Adam and Eve alive today?" -POINTS-> "After creating both of those"

                                        8/ "Why is our need to generalize a good reason that belief in religion is sane?"
                                        -POINTS-> "We cannot assume or deduce everything that is possible"

                                        9/ To James Randi "Can I take your million dollars if you do a test?"
                                        -POINTS-> "Whenever you respond".

                                        10/ "We're looking for a sign (that God is real)" -POINTS-> "1 is true"

                                        __________________________________________________ ________________


                                        And now for the bonus question....

                                        Where does James Randi keep his famous $1,000,000 paranormal prize money?

                                        A/ GOLDMAN SACHS
                                        B/ IN SACKS OF GOLD
                                        C/ BANK OF NEW ZEALAND


                                        PARANORMAL WAS UNDER RANDI'S NOSE ALL ALONG!


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                                        • Overload
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cam_girls
                                          Explain this Einstein. blablabla
                                          better tell me your theorie ... why did expansion of the known universum exponentionally increase after 7 billion years after the big bang?
                                          There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                          • cam_girls
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Overload
                                            better tell me your theorie ... why did expansion of the known universum exponentionally increase after 7 billion years after the big bang?

                                            I'm pretty sure it didn't.

                                            Anyway back to reality everyone, Hawking didn't actually refute that the Big_Bang_made_God as far as I could read.

                                            Here is my theory on creation of the Universe.

                                            "spudnik" <[email protected]> wrote...
                                            > so, what is your hypothesis as to the mechanism,
                                            > percieved a sweetness -- *o* said,
                                            > Let'em eat sweet?

                                            Yeh, but let's dress it up a little.
                                            At the moment of *creation* (snicker) about 10^-50 seconds before the Universe
                                            was the size of a match head, trillions of googleplexes of parallel quantum futures
                                            searched far into the future, 99.999......9% resulted in boring Universes so the
                                            one dimensional datastream Mind Of God (snicker) selected the values of all the fundamental
                                            constants so you could get a value meal at Maccas before 1am which was sweee eeet.
                                            Herc

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                                            The argument is based on the Universe being "RIGGED".

                                            WHY IS SUGAR SWEET?

                                            According to atheists, we PERCEIVE it as sweet so our ancestors were
                                            more likely to consume it for energy to pass on their genes!
                                            But that would mean chicken, lamb, mustard and every taste is purely
                                            manufactured by our brains to give it some functional relevance.
                                            Either that or it's a just a COINCIDENCE that the simplest most available
                                            food chemical has this wonderful sweet taste sensation.

                                            It's just one of MILLIONS of coincidences.
                                            Another example: If the Earth was 50% smaller, we would have no atmosphere
                                            like Mars. If Earth was 50% bigger our muscles would be too weak to carry a
                                            big brain, crabs would be the dominant lifeform and nobody would be able
                                            to ponder the existence of the Universe!

                                            Or water, H20. It's the only chemical of it's type that is liquid at around 300 Kelvin,
                                            It's unique Hydrogen bond giving the characteristic bend in the molecule alters it's
                                            properties so that there are liquid oceans on livable planets. No liquid water, no life!
                                            Speaking of water, osmosis! This function is absolutely critical for life to exist, except
                                            maybe phsophorous life forms. No osmosis, no life.

                                            There are THOUSANDS of narrow windows of opportunity and life depends on every
                                            single one.

                                            Herc

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                                            • NaughtyVisions
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                                              #23
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                                              • SallyRand
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                                                • Jan 2008
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                                                #24
                                                I have lots of respect for Professor Hawking and although I am NOT a Christian and adhere to NO religion, I must ask...........................

                                                "Where did the chaos come from?"

                                                The Mice maybe?

                                                If so, where did The Mice come from?

                                                Of course, these questions are indeed unanswerable and it is incredibly arrogant of anyone to to try to deny the existence of that which can do things which they cannot.

                                                Can you make a tree? Can you create a Human baby from nothing? Can you even create a living Geico Gekko?

                                                No, you cannot, therefore something greater than yourself did. The arrogance of Humankind loves to deny that which is greater than itself. I'm not certain why but the fact remains that something out there did create us and everything around us.

                                                Where did that thing come from?

                                                I have no clue and neither does anyone else.

                                                I don't know and neither does anyone else but "religions" are made-up fictions which help people deal with that which they cannot expain but also as the result, are very, very dangerous, in that the "My Religion Is the Only TRUE Religion!" comes into play and people then die.

                                                It will be a great day for all of Humanity when it is accepted that there are just things which we cannot now and never will be able to understand or explain.



                                                I do believe though, that the answer to Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything is indeed "42".

                                                Yours in Chaos.

                                                Sister Sally.
                                                Last edited by SallyRand; 09-02-2010, 06:17 PM.

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                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by wig

                                                  (1) Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
                                                  (2) The universe began to exist.
                                                  (3) Thus, the universe has a cause.
                                                  .
                                                  Are you sure you're not diving into the metaphysical here?

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                                                  • Jaeger
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                                                    #26
                                                    well if he says it is so then it must be so? bah bullshit he has gone back on what he has said in the past and hes just a fucking man. No-one knows for certain one way or the other, no matter who they are.
                                                    been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

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                                                    • Dead
                                                      They left the door open
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 4755

                                                      #27
                                                      Eat a real good dose....ponder the mere experience, dwell in the cosmic energy for a glimpse of truth....understand the insignificant choice you make to understanding the realm of existence of something that control and calm have no place and there you will find a simple understanding of how it all works. We just ride on a big blue ball that is spinning a little to close to the sun!...God, .... would be cool too, if I could wrap my little mind around the theory and not the story. I personally can't buy into something that has caused more distrust and destruction as the religious wars and the administration hell bent to make me believe the "powers that be" in the name of(insert name here). The genius of being a man in the current and past tide is knowing ones place without ever taking a sides. Find yourself and believe in that, The rest will always be theory, nothing more.
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                                                      • wig
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                        Or, more likely, he's hawking out of his ass.


                                                        You see what I did there. :D
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                                                        • wig
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                          Are you sure you're not diving into the metaphysical here?
                                                          The cosmological arguments used often take the logical form you quoted.

                                                          Who's doing the diving is beside the point.
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