why always insult on a personal level - i don't get it.

i'm just saying that almost all civilzed countries have outlawed death penalty.

and yes, i'm against it - simply because i think the society should not lower itself to the same level.

if you want to kill someone as revenge do it, but then face the consequences. :2 cents:

no insult... someone rapped and murdered one of your children and I killed them on the spot and you wouldn't thank me for it? that's weird and goes against the basic tenets of humanity to me.

I see your point and agree, but dont think its the same level. The death of an innocent and a guilty person is not the same IMO.

I agree, it's a real mess for sure

So what about "capitol" ?

I used to believe in the death penalty. Simple - you kill someone, we kill you back. But that's really letting them off easy isn't it?

Put them in prison for the rest of their life. Reduce them to animals. Let them spend all of their time living in fear of getting ass raped. Feed them bread and water. No TV, no sports, no sunlight. Just a cold damp cell for the next eighty years.

Nobody has the right to kill. Nobody should die in cold blood at the hands of another, not even a murdered. What makes you better than a murderer if you murder him out of revenge?

So, if a guy goes out and rapes your wife and then dismembers her in front of your kids before he then moves onto them and brutally murders them, you wouldn't want him dead ??

Ooooh yeah, that's right, he'd be determined to be "insane", those kinds of people can do whatever they want, they're INSANE and should just live out his years in a mental home.

My philosophy is that if someone openly makes a decision to kill another person on their own free will, taking away that person's right to live, then yes, they give up their own right to live.

Didn't answer the question

Then why keep him alive?

It probably cost about $60k a year to keep murderers alive in prison, more with appeals. The cost of the prison systems is completely out of control, I'm telling you, .22 back of the head, walmart has a special this month on boxes of 500

Do you support the killing of innocent people?

If you support the death penalty then you consequently support killing innocent people.

Sorry there is no way around that.

You can talk about some dude raping and killing your grandmothers cat till you're blue in the face but the fact is the only way to avoid killing innocent people is to not kill anyone. Just one of those unfair facts of life.

I believe that those on both sides of the death penalty debate have one thing in common. They both want the criminal to suffer the harshest consequence. There's just a small matter of reaching agreement on what exactly that is.

You dont think that death is a release from suffering? What about the terminally ill, pain ridden person who literally begs for death to end their suffering? Have you been able to square all that away yet?

Why does a convicted murderer need to be in a cell with nothing else in it? The craigs list killer found a tiny sliver of metal and managed to slash his wrists and kill himself. Surely you dont think he was choosing the path of more pain and suffering?? He took the easy way out like they all would if they were given a chance and they had the guts..

assisted Suicide I think is just fine
As for murderers, I don't want them to suffer, I don't want them to feel anything, ever again

I wouldn't want him dead. I would want to know that he'll never see sunshine again. I want him to live fear of having a huge well hung black man raping his asshole every day. I want him to be someone's bitch tossing someone's salad for the next sixty years of his life until he dies.

1. It's civilised. If you didn't get the point of Madalton's post on who does have capital punishment, then you have a problem.

2. Keeping them alive is a far worse punishment than executing them.

3. Justice isn't fair OJ would of never of got off unless he had millions. It's been proven time and time again many innocent people would not of been convicted if they had a decent defense. That's the reality.

4. Satisfying your lust for revenge is no reason to execute people.

I hope you're never dropped into that reality.

Which is why the Father isn't allowed on the jury.

This thinking has sent many a man to the gallows and has no place in a civilised society.