I guess I missed it...educate me please...what "shit" did Presdident Obama do with Fox news?

Not the point ... put more spin ...

Now, maybe a Sean Hannity or a Glennb Beck spinned it on Fox making believe to gullible people that Obama sent a letter to get him OFF THE AIR ...

and you believe that because .... republicans actually done it because of the report on the flying suited hero that dodged his service and marinated in booze and coke while fellow US citizens were getting killed ... thanks to dad !

My point is that there are often situations where there is no way to earn respect. There is no possible way that gay people who want to get married are going to "earn" the respect of the conservatives who don't want them to get married. There is nothing they can do to change the conservatives mind. Sometimes you have to scream and yell to get what you want.



The spotted owl was just part of it. There were also a lot of times when there was just a downturn in the economy and less lumber was being ordered and shipped so there were large layoffs.

But even if you want to use the spotted owl as an example, isn't that the same as the gay marriage and the gaining respect thing from above? The conservatives have passed laws stating that gays cannot get married. The gays are fighting back legally and you call that whining to get their way. But if the liberals pass a law that causes a conservative to lose his job or change the way he does his job, when they fight back they are doing the right thing. Suddenly whining to the government that things aren't fair is okay. Shouldn't these down and out conservatives just accept that their way of life has changed and quietly go about picking themselves up and dusting themselves off? As GFY says, shouldn't they just adapt or die?

I'm not blaming them for being upset. I grew up in the middle of this fight. I'm just playing devil's advocate and like Glenn Beck. . . I'm just asking questions.



Actually the FCC never took him off the air. They fined him heavily and he couldn't convince Clear Channel or anyone else to fight the FCC and force a court case over the fines. After the big fines came down Clear Channel took him off the air and never paid him. He sued them, but from what I understand it was settled out of court (or maybe it is still pending I can't remember).

the FCC doesn't just decide one morning to shut people down, they respond to complaints and it was a conservative group (I think morality in media, but I'm not sure) who were the only people to file complaints against him. So yes, the FCC did fine him, but they did so while George Bush was in office and had conservatives running the FCC and they only investigated him because of a conservative group complaining.

That a democrat created the FCC means nothing in this argument. If the conservatives really don't wanted the FCC around and really want smaller government they had 6 years under Bush where they controlled all three branches. They could have easily gotten rid of it.



agreed.

While I don't disagree with you (as I am very sure they would have loved to see him thrown off the air) there is still a big difference between asking a guys boss to condemn what he has said and requesting that he be removed from his job.

Post proof. Not your twisted illusion of proof but actual proof that I believe that. I'm pretty sure most people that barely even know me, will know better. All you're doing is showing that you're willing to stretch the truth, take things out of context, or even outright lie, so no one should take your "facts" to be the way you perceive them or portray them. :2 cents:

I rest my case..:1orglaugh

You're a little late, that case is long gone...

http://www.yayabla.nl/users/Johan13/...0my%20case.jpg

sorry, but this is one statement that I REALLY have to dissagree with...

it's never anything logical like; hey, I think you're wrong, look at these statistics or look where these policies have worked in the past... totally...

I found this list and yes, it's a joke, but as I read into it, do you agree with some of it?


* If a conservative doesn't like guns, he only has two.


* If a conservative is a vegetarian, he considers chicken a vegtable.


* If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about the best way to make a total mess of the foreign country even though the vast majority of civilians there just want to live their lives.

* If a conservative is homosexual, he runs against any pro-gay legistation and does anything possible to look anti-gay in hopes he is never found out.


* If a black man or Hispanic is conservative, they constantly need to look over their shoulder.


* If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about what minority to blame for it.


* If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels to fox news and gets a sore neck from agreeing so much.


now lets see if people can debate this without name calling, LMAO

You know.... I don't know a single liberal or 50 of them. Crazy as it sounds, but I can't find a liberal to talk to either.

I want a collage degree. Where does one get one?

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Ashcroft porn collage (he was the Bush Attorney General that wanted to cover the breasts on the Statue of Lady Justice):

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The last best dopes of mankind...

The GOP/Teabagger front runner:



And of course, the voice of Faux News, Glenn Beck:



What do I know? I get all my news from Comedy Central:



Get back to work you slackers, be ye from the left or right!!! Never forget that you are dirty pornographers one and all, and no political party supports you. :321GFY

ADG

REALLY, how many people on this forum bash Fox News?

This whole thread got funny fast, I made light of it and the liberals came out of the woodwork with their panties in a twist, just a little entertainment