And for those that still cling to Global Warming, I give you...the collapse of the CCX exchange LOL! - GoFuckYourself.com

sperbonzo · 08-31-2010, 08:16 AM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-grea...-exchange.html

"What a difference a year makes. It?s been nine months since the world watched the bottom drop out of a much-hyped UN Climate Summit in Copenhagen back in Dec 2009, with its neo-colonial agenda exposed within the first days of the summit. One of the keystones of the Climate Change alarmist movement was its audacious attempt to create a functioning market by monetizing the atmospheric trace gas known as CO2. Since last year, a number of scandals like Climategate have penetrated mainstream conversation, putting a rather awkward limp in the once nimble Man-Made Global Warming movement. Hence, apocalyptic frenzies and fears have dissipated and carbon prices around the world have continued to be pummelled by the market."

"On the back end of the game, things are a bit shadier to say the least- some might call it a recipe for corruption. The industrial monopoly power giants and other green businesses who are ?well connected? are of course, being allocated free EU Carbon Allowances until 2012, but from 2013 some sectors will have to pay for 20% of their allowances (those with weaker political influence in Brussels), rising each year to 60% in 2020. Many government/power company ?green initiatives? will automatically result in high energy price to consumers, which naturally means guaranteed profit increases for those same corporations (see Enron)."

"Off-set scam
Carbon trading is underpinned by an equally dodgy product called ?carbon off-sets?, most of which are taken on face value by the buyer. Not based on an actual ton of carbon emitted, rather governing agencies are issuing certificates for a fictional commodity of emissions not emitted. A rather wild concept. Worse than this however, it is near impossible to verify which of these thousands of so-called off-set projects in the developing world are actually legitimate. In the coming years, we will no doubt see or read a number exposes detailing the depths of this fantastic green scam.
Get in early and then get out

The formula: create an investment vehicle, hype the new commodity, buy low, watch share prices rise, sell high. The result is money, lots of it. In some cases it?s been about driving up the share prices of companies Gore?s group has already invested in. The fact that the original shareholders of the CCX have already bailed out with their sale to Intercontinental Exchange Inc. for a modest $600 million earlier this year only reinforces the reality that its creators have already lost faith in their elaborate invention. Likewise, the self-styled leaders of the climate change crusade Maurice Strong and Al Gore have already cashed in carbon fortunes already, whilst other active politicians like US President Barrack Obama, and United Nations IPCC Chief Rajendra K. Pachauri are engaged in similar play with their own financial interests in the Carbon Markets.

Like all government rigged quasi-commercial schemes, the only real beneficiaries are the initial shareholders- a special inner circle who are naturally ahead of the curve knowing about legislation and policy before it comes into existence. They are sometimes called the great and the good, the in-crowd, or the smartest men in the room (again, see Enron). Of these, almost all have jumped ship out of the market while their preferred shares- or in the case of the larger energy and manufacturing monopolies, their gratis ?carbon allowances? given to them free by their governments- are still worth something. If you?re on the inside, it?s simple: get in early, make money and then get out.
Climate change based on science fiction

Pointing out the obvious is always a painful thing in the world of human affairs. The real reason for the complete and total failure of the concept behind trading an atmospheric gas like CO2 is something few within the green block will dare to even mention now, and it?s the same reason why the whole movement will go down in history as one of the most flamboyant efforts in the history of economics. It?s not just hubris. The whole idea behind making CO2 a commodity was to make it expensive and thus reduce the amount produced, which would (they hoped) reduce the effect of anthropogenic(man-made) global warming, or ?climate change? as it?s now commonly referred to. There was only one massive problem with this equation- there has been no global warming since 1998. So despite the hundreds of millions, perhaps billions spent on research and computer models addressing this possibility, no scientist or body has been able to show that man?s CO2 contribution has had any effect on the global temperature. Another massive blind spot for climatists is their almost religious denial that the sun might have any effect on the earth?s climate (studies show that it does, of course)- a major sore spot in any debate on global warming.

The movement was a merger of radical Collectivist ideas and huge financial opportunities. Men like Maurice Strong looked for their moral positions to be anchored by a small group of hand-picked ?scientific authorities?, a latter day technocracy if you will. On the opportunist side we also see those same scientists who have made their careers, many millions of dollars over the last decade alone, on grants to prove that global warming was somehow happening. Other financial opportunists will include Al Gore, scores of companies like Carbon Fund and a number of charities soliciting donations to save the planet, all of whom were hoping to cash in on this non-event until its financial opportunities eventually die out."

RyuLion · 08-31-2010, 08:18 AM

whoot whoot!

Tom_PM · 08-31-2010, 08:27 AM

"there has been no global warming since 1998"

Wrong.

sperbonzo · 08-31-2010, 08:47 AM

You should read the whole article Tom.... there is a lot more than I posted....

All those Global Warming activist leaders are laughing all the way to the bank.

.

Ethersync · 08-31-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

You should read the whole article Tom.... there is a lot more than I posted....

All those Global Warming activist leaders are laughing all the way to the bank.

Interesting article.

I'm sure Bill8 will be here soon to tell you why you are wrong. Something about the questionable site the story is on, how none of it is based on real science (if it is not pro-AGW it is not science), he will probably throw in a line or two about how humans can not prepare for the future and it is all probably too late and yadda, yadda, yadda...

bbobby86 · 08-31-2010, 09:01 AM

nice avatar pic Ethersync...

Ethersync · 08-31-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bbobby86

nice avatar pic Ethersync...

Do you know who it is?

ottopottomouse · 08-31-2010, 09:08 AM

Bit late to make a fuss about now and i've always said Global Warming is a business anyway. Just need to get in on whatever comes next early enough.

ottopottomouse · 08-31-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Do you know who it is?

Nikola Tesla. All I can remember from school is he's got something to do with electricity.

Ethersync · 08-31-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Nikola Tesla. All I can remember from school is he's got something to do with electricity.

He invented AC electricity, radio, a way to transmit electricity wirelessly, the induction motor, the fundamental technology behind robotics, computers, radar and quite a bit more. He said he could split the world in half with sound and he claimed to invent a death ray. He would often design his inventions by imagining them in minute detail in his head. He would build them, test them and perfect them all in his head before he actually built them physically.

_Richard_ · 08-31-2010, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

"there has been no global warming since 1998"

Wrong.

makes you wonder why they even bother with reality

"HERE BE DRAGONS"

tony286 · 08-31-2010, 09:45 AM

clean air ,clean water, not sucking on the oil tit. Are those things bad? Dont you have better things to do with your time?

Ethersync · 08-31-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony299

clean air ,clean water, not sucking on the oil tit. Are those things bad? Dont you have better things to do with your time?

Did you read the article?

tony286 · 08-31-2010, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Did you read the article?

no I didnt

tony286 · 08-31-2010, 09:49 AM

I looked at it now did you see the site its on?

dyna mo · 08-31-2010, 09:51 AM

sper, you're losing gfy street cred by c&p'ing prisonplanet articles.

sperbonzo · 08-31-2010, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

sper, you're losing gfy street cred by c&p'ing prisonplanet articles.

Losing street cred?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO......!!!!

LOL!!

Tom_PM · 08-31-2010, 09:57 AM

Trust me, I first quit reading after the second sentance. I struggled to reach the point where I quoted. It's just some assholes opinion. I have my own asshole opinion tyvm, lol.

dyna mo · 08-31-2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Losing street cred?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO......!!!!

LOL!!

what are your thoughts on bjorn lomborg changing his stance on it all?

Ethersync · 08-31-2010, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony299

I looked at it now did you see the site its on?

Sure, Alex Jones is a bit of a nut. That is true. That said, I wish he was wrong more.

sperbonzo · 08-31-2010, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what are your thoughts on bjorn lomborg changing his stance on it all?

the guy is a smart businessman, and was probably offered a really good way to make money off the the global warming deal.

Believe me, I kick myself all the time for not getting in on the carbon credit business back in 2000. I was offered a deal from a friend and I turned it down.... I would have been the biggest advocate for global warming if it could have made me 22 million dollars like it did for my buddy! He is happily retired in Indonesia now.... in a beach house (he isn't concerned about "rising ocean levels" LOL!!)

.

Ethersync · 08-31-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

the guy is a smart businessman, and was probably offered a really good way to make money off the the global warming deal.

Believe me, I kick myself all the time for not getting in on the carbon credit business back in 2000. I was offered a deal from a friend and I turned it down.... I would have been the biggest advocate for global warming if it could have made me 22 million dollars like it did for my buddy! He is happily retired in Indonesia now.... in a beach house (he isn't concerned about "rising ocean levels" LOL!!)

The Guardian headline says it all: "Bjørn Lomborg: $100bn a year needed to fight climate change"

dyna mo · 08-31-2010, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

the guy is a smart businessman, and was probably offered a really good way to make money off the the global warming deal.

Believe me, I kick myself all the time for not getting in on the carbon credit business back in 2000. I was offered a deal from a friend and I turned it down.... I would have been the biggest advocate for global warming if it could have made me 22 million dollars like it did for my buddy! He is happily retired in Indonesia now.... in a beach house (he isn't concerned about "rising ocean levels" LOL!!)

.

yeah, my ex's parents got into that biz back then too, now they're all rolling in cash.

08-31-2010, 08:16 AM	#1
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	And for those that still cling to Global Warming, I give you...the collapse of the CCX exchange LOL! http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-grea...-exchange.html "What a difference a year makes. It?s been nine months since the world watched the bottom drop out of a much-hyped UN Climate Summit in Copenhagen back in Dec 2009, with its neo-colonial agenda exposed within the first days of the summit. One of the keystones of the Climate Change alarmist movement was its audacious attempt to create a functioning market by monetizing the atmospheric trace gas known as CO2. Since last year, a number of scandals like Climategate have penetrated mainstream conversation, putting a rather awkward limp in the once nimble Man-Made Global Warming movement. Hence, apocalyptic frenzies and fears have dissipated and carbon prices around the world have continued to be pummelled by the market." "On the back end of the game, things are a bit shadier to say the least- some might call it a recipe for corruption. The industrial monopoly power giants and other green businesses who are ?well connected? are of course, being allocated free EU Carbon Allowances until 2012, but from 2013 some sectors will have to pay for 20% of their allowances (those with weaker political influence in Brussels), rising each year to 60% in 2020. Many government/power company ?green initiatives? will automatically result in high energy price to consumers, which naturally means guaranteed profit increases for those same corporations (see Enron)." "Off-set scam Carbon trading is underpinned by an equally dodgy product called ?carbon off-sets?, most of which are taken on face value by the buyer. Not based on an actual ton of carbon emitted, rather governing agencies are issuing certificates for a fictional commodity of emissions not emitted. A rather wild concept. Worse than this however, it is near impossible to verify which of these thousands of so-called off-set projects in the developing world are actually legitimate. In the coming years, we will no doubt see or read a number exposes detailing the depths of this fantastic green scam. Get in early and then get out The formula: create an investment vehicle, hype the new commodity, buy low, watch share prices rise, sell high. The result is money, lots of it. In some cases it?s been about driving up the share prices of companies Gore?s group has already invested in. The fact that the original shareholders of the CCX have already bailed out with their sale to Intercontinental Exchange Inc. for a modest $600 million earlier this year only reinforces the reality that its creators have already lost faith in their elaborate invention. Likewise, the self-styled leaders of the climate change crusade Maurice Strong and Al Gore have already cashed in carbon fortunes already, whilst other active politicians like US President Barrack Obama, and United Nations IPCC Chief Rajendra K. Pachauri are engaged in similar play with their own financial interests in the Carbon Markets. Like all government rigged quasi-commercial schemes, the only real beneficiaries are the initial shareholders- a special inner circle who are naturally ahead of the curve knowing about legislation and policy before it comes into existence. They are sometimes called the great and the good, the in-crowd, or the smartest men in the room (again, see Enron). Of these, almost all have jumped ship out of the market while their preferred shares- or in the case of the larger energy and manufacturing monopolies, their gratis ?carbon allowances? given to them free by their governments- are still worth something. If you?re on the inside, it?s simple: get in early, make money and then get out. Climate change based on science fiction Pointing out the obvious is always a painful thing in the world of human affairs. The real reason for the complete and total failure of the concept behind trading an atmospheric gas like CO2 is something few within the green block will dare to even mention now, and it?s the same reason why the whole movement will go down in history as one of the most flamboyant efforts in the history of economics. It?s not just hubris. The whole idea behind making CO2 a commodity was to make it expensive and thus reduce the amount produced, which would (they hoped) reduce the effect of anthropogenic(man-made) global warming, or ?climate change? as it?s now commonly referred to. There was only one massive problem with this equation- there has been no global warming since 1998. So despite the hundreds of millions, perhaps billions spent on research and computer models addressing this possibility, no scientist or body has been able to show that man?s CO2 contribution has had any effect on the global temperature. Another massive blind spot for climatists is their almost religious denial that the sun might have any effect on the earth?s climate (studies show that it does, of course)- a major sore spot in any debate on global warming. The movement was a merger of radical Collectivist ideas and huge financial opportunities. Men like Maurice Strong looked for their moral positions to be anchored by a small group of hand-picked ?scientific authorities?, a latter day technocracy if you will. On the opportunist side we also see those same scientists who have made their careers, many millions of dollars over the last decade alone, on grants to prove that global warming was somehow happening. Other financial opportunists will include Al Gore, scores of companies like Carbon Fund and a number of charities soliciting donations to save the planet, all of whom were hoping to cash in on this non-event until its financial opportunities eventually die out." __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	You should read the whole article Tom.... there is a lot more than I posted.... All those Global Warming activist leaders are laughing all the way to the bank. . __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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08-31-2010, 09:57 AM	#18
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Trust me, I first quit reading after the second sentance. I struggled to reach the point where I quoted. It's just some assholes opinion. I have my own asshole opinion tyvm, lol. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.