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Old 08-29-2010, 02:55 PM   #1
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do you prefer to promote ccbill sites or other types?

do ccbill sites seem best to promote or do you prefer say nats sites?
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:56 PM   #2
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i don't know, can you still make a sale with ccbill ?
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:56 PM   #3
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CCbill because you know you will get your $.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:20 PM   #4
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CCbill because you know you will get your $.
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You can promote our ccbill sites with all billing fees taken after the affiliate is paid







Divvy, do you have your cookies set to 30day for your affiliates & did you tick the box that pays affiliates before the ccbill fees are taken or after?
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:07 PM   #5
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CCBill may always pay, but their admin is at least 10 years behind the times in terms of functionality and layout. Absolutely horrible.

I see this error at least twice every time I login...

Exception 113522646 Error occured while grouping data. org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Premature end of file.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:11 PM   #6
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i don't know, can you still make a sale with ccbill ?
i have some sites on CCBill and affiliates who send traffic. they make sales and the ratios are quite ok. so the answer seems to be yes
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:48 PM   #7
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CCBill may always pay, but their admin is at least 10 years behind the times in terms of functionality and layout. Absolutely horrible.

I see this error at least twice every time I login...

Exception 113522646 Error occured while grouping data. org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Premature end of file.
Have you logged in recently as they have updated their system, it seem to work well now
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:55 PM   #8
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Ccbill no more convert for me.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:02 PM   #9
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with same traffic ccbill sites just simply perform worse.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:05 PM   #10
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You guys ever stop to think that it might be one of the thousand other reasons those sites aren't converting other than that they share the same processing company. lol
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:13 PM   #11
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CCBill pays, the rest of these jokers are suspect
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:24 PM   #12
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Have you logged in recently as they have updated their system, it seem to work well now
About 2 minutes before seeing this thread. It's pure shit on the affiliate side. Even if the errors were fixed it would still be garbage. No referring urls on clicks. Multiple clicks required to see the most basic info. and the list goes on and on.

It takes a very original site to convince me to sign up with a ccbill program.

BTW, there is a general design rule about NOT using more than 2 or 3 fonts on a given page. I count 13 on your tour K.I.S.S.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:26 PM   #13
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I prefer nats but the payout safety you have with ccbill is nice.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:26 PM   #14
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About 2 minutes before seeing this thread. It's pure shit on the affiliate side. Even if the errors were fixed it would still be garbage. No referring urls on clicks. Multiple clicks required to see the most basic info. and the list goes on and on. It takes a very original site to convince me to sign up with a ccbill program.
Good luck getting paid from these programs that are about to take all your money and run in the next two years cause its gonna get bad.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:36 PM   #15
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Good luck getting paid from these programs that are about to take all your money and run in the next two years cause its gonna get bad.
So, you think it would be smarter to put all my eggs in a basket full of sites made by amateur webmasters like this asseswithclass guy that take some hardcore pics of his wife and puts them online but really has no idea how to build a tour that converts?

CCBill is probably around 80% newbies. People starting their own site on a shoe string budget. I realize there are exceptions and those are the ones I actually push. I just hate the admin with a passion.

It's also no secret why these big programs are all shutting down and if you can't do a little digging to find out which ones are going to be vulnerable in the future, that's your problem. I push around 50 NATS programs and I'm comfortable with 10% of them dying in the next 2 years. Gotta plan your work and work your plan homeboy!
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:41 PM   #16
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& always ontime




You can promote our ccbill sites with all billing fees taken after the affiliate is paid

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plus no one is going to promote your sites when you just do 5 sales a month.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:46 PM   #17
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I use CC Bill for my sites and I pretty much only promote CC Bill sites now. There are one or two exceptions, but that's it. I have no complaints. As far as I'm concerned, CC Bill is the only processor that I trust to pay me now and in the future. I've been burned too many times by other situations and I've learned my lesson. Show me the money, if I can't see the money, most likely I will get cheated. I see my money with CC Bill. I will never rely on a webmaster or a sponsor to send me my money, if the sponsor handles the money, there is a potential for problems.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:53 PM   #18
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what he said

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funny ... CCBILL is a total jerk for me ... doesnt/didnt make me a dime
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I use both...
I love CCBIll since my cash isn't spread over / trapped at numerous NATS programs with $100-$200 payouts...
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:25 AM   #21
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ccbill has no refering stats. some of the better programs with a few sites you cant even tell which site got the sale. tools are usually a nightmare. but yeah I guess you know you will get paid
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:45 AM   #22
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I love CCBILL 'cause all the cash from numerous affiliate programs are accumulating on single account, and there's no ability for a program owner to use some "street magic" to make my money dissapear. I don't need to think about how long it will take to achieve minimal payout when I'm signing up to new program.
The statistic is a piece of crap there, but I care for money, not for beautiful charts.
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So, you think it would be smarter to put all my eggs in a basket full of sites made by amateur webmasters like this asseswithclass guy that take some hardcore pics of his wife and puts them online but really has no idea how to build a tour that converts?
You do realize that exclusive amateur porn sells better than this other mainstream shit?
But hey you keep promoting these shady fucks Ill work with the guys who have content that ISNT spammed all over the tubes.
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Some CCBill based sites are better than NATS based sites to promote. Some NATS based sites are better than CCBill sites to promote.

Hope that helps.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:37 AM   #25
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I prefer nats and remember Ibill when people say- "CCbill because you know you will get your $."
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The recent CCBill Epoch cascade bug was a big dent in my confidence with CCbill
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About 2 minutes before seeing this thread. It's pure shit on the affiliate side. Even if the errors were fixed it would still be garbage. No referring urls on clicks. Multiple clicks required to see the most basic info. and the list goes on and on.

It takes a very original site to convince me to sign up with a ccbill program.

BTW, there is a general design rule about NOT using more than 2 or 3 fonts on a given page. I count 13 on your tour K.I.S.S.
I never heard the design rule of 2 or 3 fonts & yes, we do use a few different fonts, We may have to take a look at this.
I always thought, the content that was important & ours is worthy of promoting With Weekly updates on picture & film & live camfeeds in the members area, we hold decent retentions with lots of people coming back every month or so.

Keep It Stupid Simple, thats exactly what my designer says to me too
Thats why the 6 niche "arsewithclass" sites are generic, apart from colour & content.

Why not sign up & try us out before saying whether its going to work or not, You could find that you make more money with us than other programs.




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spam

plus no one is going to promote your sites when you just do 5 sales a month.


Come on, you know you're full of bullshit. Your sig promotes a tape that you, yourself, doesnt even know is real or not... hmmm, you are a nice true person


Sort it out Divvy, your sig is too big also. rule 3 says you can be banned, also you keep repeating something that you have made up or Grisey has lied to you & you continue to state it.... It also a banning offence








Our sites are worth promoting especially as we leave cookies set at 30day & we pay affiliates before the ccbill payouts are paid..... DO YOU ?

Or, do you con your affiliates like you do your surfers & members with the measly amount of non exclusive, shared content.





Do yourself a flavour,




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Old 08-30-2010, 05:58 AM   #28
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nats cause of the great stats, ccbill cause of payments without problems, but not epoch anymore cause making sales with epoch as affiliate is the biggest traffic wasting in adult business
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