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Old 01-07-2003, 03:34 PM   #51
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Mike, if you took at least one law class in college you would know whether or not you should post what you posted.

"Libel and slander are legal claims for false statements of fact about a person that are printed, broadcast, spoken or otherwise communicated to others. Libel refers to statements in written or other permanent form, while slander refers to verbal statements and gestures. The term defamation encompasses both libel and slander.

In order for the person about whom a statement is made to recover for libel, the false statement must be defamatory, meaning that it actually harms the reputation of the other person, as opposed to being merely insulting or offensive"
I'm stupid. Never took a law class in college.

Now please sir, highlight the libel in which you imply Mike posted.

Asking questions? Riiight.

And about Adult Centro, it's still not up? Youch.
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A "defamation" can be any form of "communication" . A communication is defamatory if it tends to expose a person to hatred, ridicule or contempt. If it harms the reputation so as to lower him/her in the estimation of the community or to deter others from dealing with him/her.

Therefore asking a question that would lower a person's (in this instance a body corporate ,or legal personna) esteem within a community or affect others from dealing with him would be libellous if untrue.

I am not a lawyer...just a smartass
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Here it is:

"i've been hearing some things recently about like whoa being broke, bankrupt, whatever "

"they were supposed to have a kick ass booth in vegas but aren't exhibiting because of a lack of cash."

Now regards to Adult Centro, you can see a small % of the features it will offer online
http://www.adultcentro.com

You will be able to register and see what it actually is, very shortly.
Some of our customers are already beta testing the back end, i guess you are not one of them, i would like to revisit this topic once it's out, and have your honest opinion of what it is, and whether or not it was worth the wait. Please review the current feature list, so you could make an educated reply, or if you have any more questions about it you can contact me on icq.
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Nick, you are a smartass, and you are correct
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Blah blah blah, yeah yeah, I know Adult Cento is a really hot service and all but I wanna know if this rumor is true...

I hear the Like Whoa guys don't have any babes. The word on the street is your pimp hand isn't strong Stan.

Any comments on this?
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Just adding my 2 cents Stan.

Best to you and Nick for the new year btw

And as I am a smartass by my own admission , your remarks are in no way libellous
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Old 01-07-2003, 03:59 PM   #57
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A "defamation" can be any form of "communication" . A communication is defamatory if it tends to expose a person to hatred, ridicule or contempt. If it harms the reputation so as to lower him/her in the estimation of the community or to deter others from dealing with him/her.

Therefore asking a question that would lower a person's (in this instance a body corporate ,or legal personna) esteem within a community or affect others from dealing with him would be libellous if untrue.
Wait... what?

You're basically saying that one can not ask questions about companies that could possibly hurt them?

So whenever someone says "hey, I heard Nasty Dollars shaves. Know anything about that?" They could possibly be charged with defamation?

That's fucked up.
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:00 PM   #58
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I hear the Like Whoa guys don't have any babes. The word on the street is your pimp hand isn't strong Stan.
Interesting bit you raise.

Those remarks are not libelous.

If Stan is gay however they would be a hate crime.If he is not...not ;)
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:04 PM   #59
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Here it is:

"i've been hearing some things recently about like whoa being broke, bankrupt, whatever "

"they were supposed to have a kick ass booth in vegas but aren't exhibiting because of a lack of cash."
If you're going to quote Mike, use the full quote. What you just posted is missing key elements that drastically change the context in which it would be interpreted.

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You will be able to register and see what it actually is, very shortly.
Some of our customers are already beta testing the back end, i guess you are not one of them, i would like to revisit this topic once it's out, and have your honest opinion of what it is, and whether or not it was worth the wait. Please review the current feature list, so you could make an educated reply, or if you have any more questions about it you can contact me on icq.
I'm not a customer of yours. Therefore, not a beta tester. I was just curious because you had all of your clients so excited about it, they were pushing it as if it were their own, all to be released on August 9th I believe it was.

And then your clients were so heavily endorsing your booth.

It just seems that I would be very let down if I was one of those clients.
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A few of LW guys are married, a few got hot ass girlfriends, due to some of them reading this board, i cannot comment on the ammount of babes that LW Crew has.

Sorry, the only way to find out is to join us.
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Wait... what?

You're basically saying that one can not ask questions about companies that could possibly hurt them?

So whenever someone says "hey, I heard Nasty Dollars shaves. Know anything about that?" They could possibly be charged with defamation?

That's fucked up.
that is what people who would like to hide behind threats of lawyers would have you believe. they're wrong, though. his post was most definitely not defamation, and i highly doubt they'd even make it to court if they pursued it.
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""You're basically saying that one can not ask questions about companies that could possibly hurt them? ""


If untrue of course.And I'm not saying it...the law is

""So whenever someone says "hey, I heard Nasty Dollars shaves. Know anything about that?" They could possibly be charged with defamation? ""


Not charged,unless it is "criminal llibel/slander" and Yes if untrue.


""That's fucked up.""

Not really...you can say what you like if it is true.

BTW if you have a big enough bankrole you would also enjoin GFY as "publishers" to the action.

Basically what can happen and what does happen depends on how much $$$ the people involved have

It really is an interesting field..................

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Old 01-07-2003, 04:10 PM   #63
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""You're basically saying that one can not ask questions about companies that could possibly hurt them? ""


If untrue of course.And I'm not saying it...the law is

""So whenever someone says "hey, I heard Nasty Dollars shaves. Know anything about that?" They could possibly be charged with defamation? ""


Not charged,unless it is "criminal llibel/slander" and Yes if untrue.


""That's fucked up.""

Not really...you can say what you like if it is true.

BTW if you have a big enough bankrole you would also enjoin GFY as "publishers" to the action.

Basically what can happen and what does happen depends on how much $$$ the people involved have

It really is an interesting field..................

If someone asks a question, how can it be true or untrue?

Are you a lawyer? You better be.
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salsbury, i could feel otherwise, and there are statements from other people to backup my opinion.

Sly, you are right thats the law of the country we live in, all the law is trying to do is be fair, if you are asking a question with a goal to defame, you are commiting a tort.

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A few of LW guys are married, a few got hot ass girlfriends, due to some of them reading this board, i cannot comment on the ammount of babes that LW Crew has.
Haha, I will not accept that as an answer. I will see you guys in person sooner or later and we will see!
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Nope, I'm not a lawyer ........ I'm talking out of my ass
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Nope, I'm not a lawyer ........ I'm talking out of my ass
Wasn't hard to tell.
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Oh and that could be construed as a veiled threat....a criminal action

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errr lighten up!!! I'm giving you fair opinion but I'm not a lawyer.

What I'm trying to show is whats fair about saying something which could damage LW's biz without a shread of anything to back it up?

This is the problem with all message boards....malicious gossip can become fact.(Or an honest but misguided question even)
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Dude, there's nothing to back up when you're asking a question.

Had Mike been another hosting company, I see your point, but as far as I know he isn't. Just some guy building sites somewhere wondering what's up with LW after hearing a couple rumors.

I heard Iraq has a couple buried nukes, any truth to this?

See.
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[B]salsbury, i could feel otherwise, and there are statements from other people to backup my opinion.
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i'm sure that anyone could find anyone to back up their opinion - opinions don't really matter...

...which is ultimately why this wouldn't be considered defamation, anyways, even if he were trying to act maliciously.
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I totaly agree, If acustions are FALSE, one could be held liable (it would cost the sueIE more money to sue then what the false acusations cost him).

However, my Lawer advised me that If a pariculer individual would have proof of wrong doings of another, he could go public and would not be held liable. I guess public anouncment would be seen as a warning to peers.

Please keep in mind folks, this was a statment of OPINION and does not reflec Like Whoa in any way.

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salsbury, should Dynaspin actually decide to move off his server, or should i have a witness which did not signup for my hosting because of this thread, what would you say then?

I feel it's libel already, just because Dynaspin said he might.
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salsbury, should Dynaspin actually decide to move off his server, or should i have a witness which did not signup for my hosting because of this thread, what would you say then?

I feel it's libel already, just because Dynaspin said he might.
I won't sign up for your hosting.

But it's not because of Mike.

Who should we charge with libel now? You?
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salsbury, should Dynaspin actually decide to move off his server, or should i have a witness which did not signup for my hosting because of this thread, what would you say then?

I feel it's libel already, just because Dynaspin said he might.
i'd say that dynaspin should have done some research before just up and leaving because of a random basically anonymous posting on the interweb about your company. the witness who did not sign up because of the thread... same thing. besides. if they're THAT easily swayed, perhaps they wouldn't have been such a great customer after all. who knows if 2 or 3 months down the line they'd just bail on you to some other host which charges a penny less per GB or something. i'm sure you've seen this happen, as have i, over the years (and it totally sucks, especially if you've put hours of work in to setting up their web space just as they want, too).

basically, tho, the end result can't be used to determine if something said was libel/defamation.
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This is really pathethic... and I love when people call themselves smartasses or intelligent... most of the time they're not...

If I heard a rumor (from many different sources) about Ford having money problems... I have every rights in the world to go ask if its true on a car related message board... (and I cant believe I have to explain that... it is really basic common sens)

The ONLY way I could be sued is if I do that with malicious intentions... not asking the question to be informed but to cause harm to the company.... Which is obviously not the case here... If so PROVE IT!
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By the way... when Microsoft will sue the millions who are badmouthing and making fun of the company....!?

And I Think Jay Leno, Conan Obrian, etc... are in for a big surprise.... are they gonna do jail time...!?
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Some of you are fools,money must not buy common sense...Asking a question can never be consider libel or slander,at least not the way this was put... Maybe if he said "Do you think LW is going bankrupt?" you might have something but he simply ASKED and then stated why he was asking,might I add he asked for proof not just word of mouth rumors(that have alreayd been started)... I'm no lawyer but if that was a law, half the country would be sued by now... Me included


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from now on anybody who gets threatened with a suit on here and one isnt served to you,you better fuckin fight back with your own threats...Tired of these pussies making up their own way of law out of sheer embarassment
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i'd say that dynaspin should have done some research before just up and leaving because of a random basically anonymous posting on the interweb about your company. the witness who did not sign up because of the thread... same thing. besides. if they're THAT easily swayed, perhaps they wouldn't have been such a great customer after all. who knows if 2 or 3 months down the line they'd just bail on you to some other host which charges a penny less per GB or something. i'm sure you've seen this happen, as have i, over the years (and it totally sucks, especially if you've put hours of work in to setting up their web space just as they want, too).

basically, tho, the end result can't be used to determine if something said was libel/defamation.
Again I only said....if it was true that they are broke/bankrupt
that would mean I have to look for another provider.....

is that is libel sue me......goodluck hunting me

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They can't even pay their AllLiquid affiliates. Just goto AllLiquid and read the thread yourself. SEVERAL people have not gotten paid.

My best friend's dad also owns a very well respected company that does the booths for shows. A booth is not late or is never finished. There is a contract between the company buying the booth and the company making the booth. If the booth was late then we should all expect to see a suit from LWI (not that would post it publicly but just do a search in the next couple of months).

Also - where is this big bad 10G network? I just did 15 traces from random places around the world and it all goes to MFN.

Last I heard MFN was in bankruptcy so it is pretty apparent that LWI is not interested in spending the bucks to get a decent provider or two in there.

Have you seen the prices for their hosting? They are juicing a ton of you people that is for sure. And it is definitely not going into support because I see a ton of threads here about people not getting good support from LWI.

I think they are hurting for money. That or their big bad ass ?CEO? that can ?own? everybody is taking all the money. They are going to even have bigger problems if they don't start paying their affiliates.

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salsbury, should Dynaspin actually decide to move off his server, or should i have a witness which did not signup for my hosting because of this thread, what would you say then?

I feel it's libel already, just because Dynaspin said he might.
You FEEL its libel? hahaha. Awwwww, poor baby!

I would say there are quite a few people who will never use LikeWhoa because of this thread. But it won't be because of the question that started it, it'll be because you are a whiny little bitch.
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I would say there are quite a few people who will never use LikeWhoa because of this thread. But it won't be because of the question that started it, it'll be because you are a whiny little bitch.
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... I don´t have a funkmaster booth at the vegas show either ... am I broke now ??

I don´t like likewhoa myself, but this thread is a shame, the guy that started this thread is a fucking idiot, not having a booth doesn´t me fuck, got it tosser ??
... maybe if you ... typed properly ´ then i, could under

... stand what you´re saying !! ... and i wou´ld be able ... to answer the question ??
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They can't even pay their AllLiquid affiliates. Just goto AllLiquid and read the thread yourself. SEVERAL people have not gotten paid.

My best friend's dad also owns a very well respected company that does the booths for shows. A booth is not late or is never finished. There is a contract between the company buying the booth and the company making the booth. If the booth was late then we should all expect to see a suit from LWI (not that would post it publicly but just do a search in the next couple of months).

Also - where is this big bad 10G network? I just did 15 traces from random places around the world and it all goes to MFN.

Last I heard MFN was in bankruptcy so it is pretty apparent that LWI is not interested in spending the bucks to get a decent provider or two in there.

Have you seen the prices for their hosting? They are juicing a ton of you people that is for sure. And it is definitely not going into support because I see a ton of threads here about people not getting good support from LWI.

I think they are hurting for money. That or their big bad ass ?CEO? that can ?own? everybody is taking all the money. They are going to even have bigger problems if they don't start paying their affiliates.

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