Mobile Sites Still Necessary ??? - GoFuckYourself.com

barelist · 08-12-2010, 11:02 AM

Bought my wife the new Blackberry Torch today and was messing around with the browser... and I have to say my site displayed perfectly, including all the little javascript tricks. I know iphones already have great browsers, but didn't expect the default Blackberry browser to work so well.

Even on my older Bold with opera mini the site displays right. Just thinking over the next 1-2 years with more and more people getting iphones and other smartphones for browsing, why even mess with mobile sites?

Wouldn't it now also make sense for maybe just sponsors to determine incoming traffic and give simple mobile purchasing options at the general sign up page?

Just doesn't seem like it makes sense to do double work for sites and fhgs when phones are evolving so quick...

candyflip · 08-12-2010, 11:40 AM

A site optimized for the mobile experience will always be better than browsing the site on a phone, the way it was meant to be seen on a computer monitor.

kristin · 08-12-2010, 11:55 AM

Was the site you were looking at the one in your sig, Barelist.com?

Roald · 08-12-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Was the site you were looking at the one in your sig, Barelist.com?

thats his site yes.

I do think a mobile version is much better though

Evil Chris · 08-12-2010, 11:57 AM

A lot of sites still display properly in a mobile window, but that doesn't mean they're easy to navigate, or convert to a membership for that matter.

barelist · 08-12-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Was the site you were looking at the one in your sig, Barelist.com?

Yeah checked out a bunch of others as well... look fine...

Flash still doesn't work... but I've always stayed away from it

kristin · 08-12-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by barelist

Yeah checked out a bunch of others as well... look fine...

Flash still doesn't work... but I've always stayed away from it

You have, but the sites you promote - do they use flash?

The text and links are very small making it hard to navigate, also the pics are small. The sites that are promoted from the links, like the Holly Randall, take a very long time to load.

So if you have the average mobile traffic as others, 3-5%, you will lose out on some good traffic. People on phones just don't buy PC sites, they want the mobile compatible version.

.05% of our PC members use their phone to surfer the PC site. It's not that much. And as the mobile market grows and people move away from the PC, you don't want to be scrambling then due to worse conversion ratios because people on phones can't navigate the promoted site.

barelist · 08-12-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

You have, but the sites you promote - do they use flash?

The text and links are very small making it hard to navigate, also the pics are small. The sites that are promoted from the links, like the Holly Randall, take a very long time to load.

So if you have the average mobile traffic as others, 3-5%, you will lose out on some good traffic. People on phones just don't buy PC sites, they want the mobile compatible version.

.05% of our PC members use their phone to surfer the PC site. It's not that much. And as the mobile market grows and people move away from the PC, you don't want to be scrambling then due to worse conversion ratios because people on phones can't navigate the promoted site.

True. Also guessing big fat button links help with fat fingered touch screen users

Just interesting to see how far phone browsers have come

kristin · 08-12-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by barelist

True. Also guessing big fat button links help with fat fingered touch screen users

Just interesting to see how far phone browsers have come

LOL, "your fingers are too fat, to obtain a special dialing wand ..."

One of my favorite Simpsons episodes.

FlexxAeon · 08-12-2010, 12:19 PM

your mode of thinking is the same as mine has been. the lines between mobile/non-mobile have been blurring since the iphone came out. but screen size will always probably warrant some kind of "mobile" option, even if it does become less of a niche

barelist · 08-12-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

your mode of thinking is the same as mine has been. the lines between mobile/non-mobile have been blurring since the iphone came out. but screen size will always probably warrant some kind of "mobile" option, even if it does become less of a niche

I use a 30" and 24" monitor all day, so even designing for < 1200px width is tough... I do think great site design will soon just need one site that works both well on a desktop and phone... I understand the reasoning for having both right now, but even phone resolutions are getting nuts, so we'll see... Having a 15" laptop with 1920x1200 resolution a few years ago seemed crazy to me, but I got used to it. The next two laptops I bought were both 1920x1080 and seemed just fine... same thing will happen with phones I'm sure

candyflip · 08-12-2010, 12:34 PM

Just another quick comment.

Your site is loaded with links that say "click here..."

You don't "click" on a phone, you "tap" or "touch"

barelist · 08-12-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Just another quick comment.

Your site is loaded with links that say "click here..."

You don't "click" on a phone, you "tap" or "touch"

Hey my Bold still "clicks"

kristin · 08-12-2010, 12:46 PM

We have simple text listing that is whitelabel'able.

www.imoviepass.com - this is something that would probably perform better (layout wise) for your mobile surfers.

BestXXXPorn · 08-12-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

your mode of thinking is the same as mine has been. the lines between mobile/non-mobile have been blurring since the iphone came out. but screen size will always probably warrant some kind of "mobile" option, even if it does become less of a niche

I couldn't agree more... you will always need to design for the view area and when you're talking about such a drastic difference a separate design will always win out... IMO

FlexxAeon · 08-12-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by barelist

I use a 30" and 24" monitor all day, so even designing for < 1200px width is tough... I do think great site design will soon just need one site that works both well on a desktop and phone... I understand the reasoning for having both right now, but even phone resolutions are getting nuts, so we'll see... Having a 15" laptop with 1920x1200 resolution a few years ago seemed crazy to me, but I got used to it. The next two laptops I bought were both 1920x1080 and seemed just fine... same thing will happen with phones I'm sure

site design that works well on both is out there already.

barelist · 08-12-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

site design that works well on both is out there already.

Expected design then

08-12-2010, 11:02 AM	#1
barelist Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 523	Mobile Sites Still Necessary ??? Bought my wife the new Blackberry Torch today and was messing around with the browser... and I have to say my site displayed perfectly, including all the little javascript tricks. I know iphones already have great browsers, but didn't expect the default Blackberry browser to work so well. Even on my older Bold with opera mini the site displays right. Just thinking over the next 1-2 years with more and more people getting iphones and other smartphones for browsing, why even mess with mobile sites? Wouldn't it now also make sense for maybe just sponsors to determine incoming traffic and give simple mobile purchasing options at the general sign up page? Just doesn't seem like it makes sense to do double work for sites and fhgs when phones are evolving so quick... __________________ http://www.barelist.com http://www.twitter.com/barelist

08-12-2010, 11:40 AM	#2
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,068	A site optimized for the mobile experience will always be better than browsing the site on a phone, the way it was meant to be seen on a computer monitor. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,239	A lot of sites still display properly in a mobile window, but that doesn't mean they're easy to navigate, or convert to a membership for that matter. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

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FlexxAeon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,765	your mode of thinking is the same as mine has been. the lines between mobile/non-mobile have been blurring since the iphone came out. but screen size will always probably warrant some kind of "mobile" option, even if it does become less of a niche __________________ flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

08-12-2010, 12:34 PM	#12
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,068	Just another quick comment. Your site is loaded with links that say "click here..." You don't "click" on a phone, you "tap" or "touch" __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

08-12-2010, 12:46 PM	#14
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	We have simple text listing that is whitelabel'able. www.imoviepass.com - this is something that would probably perform better (layout wise) for your mobile surfers. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."