Why is it that people think Im "just a designer" even after I repeat myself endlessly that Im much more than that. I just offer that service to the public.

Ive been an affiliate... and affiliate manager. Ive looked over my own and numerous other affiliates over the time. Personally I never stole anyone's source. I didnt mimic anyone. At most I got inspiration with techniques on how to convert a surfer.

Im not saying this backhanded tactic isnt going on out there. Im just saying... your accusation is a little broad although your claim has solidity.

Thanks for the tips on where I should be aiming with my business though :thumbsup


shit... is sharky "just a designer"?

ok, try to hide where you get your traffic, give me the domain name and i'll show everyone here where and how you got your traffic.

:thumbsup

I want to shoot a caribou... teach me!

Very true. And it's one of the reasons I have shelved over 200 sites (essentially doorway sites) the last year or so, and purely concentrating on a couple of big ones. I couldn't give a monkey's if the affiliate managers see where the traffic is coming from, I tell them, and try and work together.

My thread was mainly directed at traffic buying and my experiences over the last few months in experimenting with that. If you don't hide your links, within a week typically you will see your sponsor buying ads in the same slots, where previously they were nowhere.

I'll stop with the whining now I'm sober :1orglaugh

well this does make perfect sense. I also thought youw ere talkign about all sources, but yea... especially with buying ad spots or PPC even... you need to mask that shit. regardless of affiliate managers.

I'd be interested to know if you had any luck with buying traffic. I've tried that a few times just to see what would happen after listening to all the hype.

I KNOW what buying a text link on a targeted site can do. But actually buying "traffic" with no real way to know what the heck it is...I never made a dime that way. It was always lose/lose for me.

precision traffic > random traffic

FTW

once again, you can't do that. it's impossible. for one, if i was a program and you hide where the traffic came from i will suspend your account. too many ways to cheat on blind.

secondly, all you need is a domain name and you can find anything you want from a few very handy tools which i won't be sharing.

seriously? are the people here on gfy this novice?

notice... you keep your tools a secret...

why... because its not a well known tactic...



hrmmmmm...

The thing is, while the practices Cunningstunt outlined have been going on for years it seems like things have "ratcheted up" over the past 1 1/2 - 2 years. Bad economy? New CC regs? No more x-sells/cross-sells? Whatever, it does seem like programs are out to "steal" affiliates mojo in a super-charged way these days. I can see how you would get sick of "the battle" Stunt.

And those who say - not me, but others - "well, start your own damn program and do the same..." aren't taking into consideration what goes into starting (and running) an AP, not to mention that "joining the thieves" just increases the downward spiral for the Industry as a whole. Shit, don't you think if super-affiliates like Mr. Stunt wanted this type of business model he would've done so long, long ago?

No, best advice mate: save your $, invest in mainstream, get out of adult ASAP. Live a happier life. :)

My job is merely to get more affiliates to sign up to promote and to help them with tools. :pimp

I have tried about 10 ad networks, and only one has come good on that front. Last month it made me several $K profit (yes, not massive, but profit nonetheless with no site building or anything required) for doing nothing other than setting up a few campaigns.

I also have started buying direct at source, but there's no disguising the fact there that you are repeat buying an ad, so the site owner knows it must be profitable - then they start advertising the same things, so you're fucked again.

There can't be that many ex media buyers who are poor, unless they are totally clueless.

Good advice - run affiliate links through one of your owns sites, that way they won't get past the jump...................

Also makes it extremely easy to redirect those links if the sponsor fucks you around!

Yes, and also, they sometimes are fooled into thinking it IS the traffic source, and pay for a slot on your site for a few month's until they are wise to it :1orglaugh :321GFY

it is hard mate if you know english and i know engrish, so i enjoy myself here :) i mean bump! :)

No sales in 3 days with that sponsor, 47 last month, go figure.

It might be time to go back into the business world and fuck this game off.

I just received this today after reading this thread yesterday. I thought it was hilarious in relation to this thread.

He can see the aff ID but no referrer? His is the top two ads in the left column out of three ads. http://datingport.co.uk/herpes-dating.htm What a moron. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What about the dolphins?