Help me settle a debate. Solo vs M/F Porn. - GoFuckYourself.com

LightscapeMedia · 08-04-2010, 06:46 PM

I have been arguing with my business partner for the last couple of days. We only need models willing to do "Explicit Solo Nude" work including toys and masturbation.

His take is that all of the girls he's been in contact with want to do M/F porn and do not want to do solo.

My question is this:

If both styles paid the same (Say $1000) and lasted the same amount of time, which would be easier to cast for?

Assumptions:
1. Both jobs pay the same and will last the same amount of time
2. Both jobs require actual explicit sexual activity (Masturbation or M/F sex)
3. Will be paired with a random male partner not of their choice

Which is easier to find performers for?

My personal opinion is that for $1000, one should be able to find willing participants for solo work all day long.

xNetworx · 08-04-2010, 06:50 PM

I'm lost here. You are saying girls are turning down $1000 to do a solo masturbation scene and would rather get HPV for the same price?

LightscapeMedia · 08-04-2010, 07:09 PM

They're turning my partner down. I say with $1000 cash in your pocket, one should be able to get girls to do solo left and right.

Grapesoda · 08-04-2010, 07:18 PM

many girls would rather do bg than solo because they are nervouse about working alone

Vendzilla · 08-04-2010, 07:20 PM

LOL, doing solo they have to work harder

alias · 08-04-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, doing solo they have to work harder

crazy, lol

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

They're turning my partner down.

That seems to be your problem right there. I've shot girls in Phoenix for $200 doing a solo scene w/ masturbation and never once had a problem with it other than girls flaking out which is typical of models.

Are you asking them to do normal shit then telling them last minute they need to do something they weren't prepared for?

Is dude just being weird in general?

There has to be a reason, models aren't that hard to figure out but if EVERYONE is turning him down for $250+ then there is a major problem.

Hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk, nice seeing more Phx faces around.

alias · 08-04-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Is dude just being weird in general?

Yeah I wondered this too.. .

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Yeah I wondered this too.. .

You would assume that all of us content shooters are a bit fucked in the head. . . but if the guy is sending off hella creepy vibes from the get-go you would have your answer right there on why nobody wants to work with him or reply to emails or meet or actually get to the shoot.

It's tough, but something is definitely going on with dude's business partner that hasn't been brought up in this thread or maybe even in the relationship between the two of them.

I have experienced you get a good 50/50 mix of girls that are willing to do hardcore or not willing to.

Of all the girls you will talk to that want to do a solo w/toy scene with you, about half of them will also do b/g either with their own stunt cock or with whoever, but those girls will all still do solo w/toy regardless of the photographer.

alias · 08-04-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

You would assume that all of us content shooters are a bit fucked in the head. . .

Not to be rude but, ESPECIALLY in AZ =]

LightscapeMedia · 08-04-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

That seems to be your problem right there. I've shot girls in Phoenix for $200 doing a solo scene w/ masturbation and never once had a problem with it other than girls flaking out which is typical of models.

Are you asking them to do normal shit then telling them last minute they need to do something they weren't prepared for?

Is dude just being weird in general?

There has to be a reason, models aren't that hard to figure out but if EVERYONE is turning him down for $250+ then there is a major problem.

Hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk, nice seeing more Phx faces around.

I sent you a message. Not too familiar with ICQ and how to use it so hopefully I did it right. I can also be reached ICQ: 601760448

billywatson · 08-04-2010, 08:42 PM

I love it when newbs post crazy shit like this.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Not to be rude but, ESPECIALLY in AZ =]

That's not rude, that's fact.

GotGauge · 08-04-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

They're turning my partner down. I say with $1000 cash in your pocket, one should be able to get girls to do solo left and right.

Yeah, girls should be lined up a block long!

Hey good luck, shave your head now, so you don't pull all your hair out!

Mr Happy · 08-04-2010, 10:15 PM

Holy Moly... you can get girls to masturbate on video for $200 bucks?

Send them my way! I will hire as many as you can send and pay you a nice referral fee as well.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

Holy Moly... you can get girls to masturbate on video for $200 bucks?

Send them my way! I will hire as many as you can send and pay you a nice referral fee as well.

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crap models
i wouldnt even waste time

Someone said that about the girls I've shot so don't even bother.

Mr Happy · 08-04-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Someone said that about the girls I've shot so don't even bother.

meaning....?

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

meaning....?

Not quality apparently.

Agent 488 · 08-04-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

They're turning my partner down.

Mr Happy · 08-04-2010, 10:47 PM

If you can provide models of this quality for $200 - $250 to mastubate on video I will make you a very rich man.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 10:57 PM

she's cute.

BigDeanEvans · 08-04-2010, 11:31 PM

My partner has gotten girls to do solo scenes for a pair of sneakers. If you've got a silver tongue you can work magic.

alias · 08-04-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

If you can provide models of this quality for $200 - $250 to mastubate on video I will make you a very rich man.

Shot well, clean look & good lighting.

arschloch · 08-04-2010, 11:45 PM

250 for masturbation? ehhh...it'll be hard to find quality girls for that price i'd think

Mr Happy · 08-05-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by arschloch

250 for masturbation? ehhh...it'll be hard to find quality girls for that price i'd think

I do truly wonder if Mr. Oso can find girls of the following quality.

I will pay great referral fees for new girls of this quality to masturbate on video for $200 to $250

Mr Happy · 08-05-2010, 12:42 AM

and few more of the the quality models I would hire everyday for $200-$250 per solo masturbation shoot.

Hell I am willing to pay $200 to $250 for solo masturbation shoots. Why not send them my way!

I normally pay $500 to $800 for solo masturbation and $800 to $1200 for boygirl shoots
If I can save money, I am game!

Paul Markham · 08-05-2010, 12:43 AM

Strange thread.

If you're having problems figuring out models I would suggest you try another job. Shooting porn is ALL ABOUT figuring out models.

Nice girls Mr Happy.

SteveLightspeed · 08-05-2010, 12:54 AM

edited

Steve Lightspeed

clicker · 08-05-2010, 05:51 AM

IMO your partner is creeping them out and they want to bring partner. Make them more comfortable by hiring a female assistant.

Nikki_Licks · 08-05-2010, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

and few more of the the quality models I would hire everyday for $200-$250 per solo masturbation shoot.

Hell I am willing to pay $200 to $250 for solo masturbation shoots. Why not send them my way!

I normally pay $500 to $800 for solo masturbation and $800 to $1200 for boygirl shoots
If I can save money, I am game!

I think Jon is saying he pays girls 200+, so if he shot them, naturally he needs to make money so that 200+ is going to be a bit higher selling it to you. I think you already know this, just saying.

I have also booked girls in phoenix that are pretty hot for 300 - 450 for solo scenes that are hot. I guess what they will accept depends on their situation and how bad they needed money......

marcop · 08-05-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

This girl is Kasey Chase... I shot her three or four times, and she was one of the most insane chicks I've shot in 12 years in porn. But she has that perfect barely legal, girl-next-door look.

Jon Oso · 08-05-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

and few more of the the quality models I would hire everyday for $200-$250 per solo masturbation shoot.

Hell I am willing to pay $200 to $250 for solo masturbation shoots. Why not send them my way!

I normally pay $500 to $800 for solo masturbation and $800 to $1200 for boygirl shoots
If I can save money, I am game!

I don't send models to people I don't know.

Who are you?

DamnGoodRatio · 08-05-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

You would assume that all of us content shooters are a bit fucked in the head. . . but if the guy is sending off hella creepy vibes from the get-go you would have your answer right there on why nobody wants to work with him or reply to emails or meet or actually get to the shoot.

It's tough, but something is definitely going on with dude's business partner that hasn't been brought up in this thread or maybe even in the relationship between the two of them.

I agree there is definitely something up . Maybe you should be on the line when he talks to these girls, he is saying something or asking for something that is scaring them away. I have never had a problem finding a girl (s) to do any solo stuff or M/F for that matter either...

Agent 488 · 08-05-2010, 08:29 AM

maybe the heavy breathing and the wet fapping sounds are messing it up.

MaDalton · 08-05-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

If you can provide models of this quality for $200 - $250 to mastubate on video I will make you a very rich man.

do you like czech girls?

Stephen · 08-05-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

if EVERYONE is turning him down for $250+ then there is a major problem.

I would tend to agree

Mr Happy · 08-05-2010, 01:21 PM

Yes we know very well who the model Casey Chase is in some of the photos, remember I shoot in California.

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I don't send models to people I don't know.

Who are you?

Please show all of us your major accomplishments in the adult industry and I will be more than Happy to introduce myself.

Jon Oso · 08-05-2010, 01:23 PM

That's what I figured, I have known exactly who you are since you started posting.

Weren't you banned for life?

Nikki_Licks · 08-05-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jon oso

that's what i figured, i have known exactly who you are since you started posting.

Weren't you banned for life?

you mean eddie is back???

AaronM · 08-05-2010, 01:29 PM

*sigh*

Jon Oso · 08-05-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

Please show all of us your major accomplishments in the adult industry and I will be more than Happy to introduce myself.

Way to edit your post after you called me "you're a nobody Mr. Oso" then change it to make it look less like you're back to your typical ways.

I was hoping with your move to Cali you'd get your shit together and stop with all the childish BS, I guess I was wrong and you still have a hard-on for me.

Jon Oso · 08-05-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

you mean eddie is back???

I'm not naming names. Not that anyone is confused as to who "Mr Happy" is, but I'm not getting into it. Only a matter of time until he flips out and gets himself banned, again.

Some people just can't keep their mouths shut for the sake of doing business.

AaronM · 08-05-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Way to edit your post after you called me "you're a nobody Mr. Oso" then change it to make it look less like you're back to your typical ways.

I was hoping with your move to Cali you'd get your shit together and stop with all the childish BS, I guess I was wrong and you still have a hard-on for me.

All I know is I love watching you on webcam.

43.8k posts. Another 9 years and I'll almost be at Juicy status.

Jon Oso · 08-05-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

All I know is I love watching you on webcam.

I don't do that shit anymore. Did it for awhile, couldn't get a schedule down and my ugly ass sure as fuck doesn't make money on my own haha.

Nikki_Licks · 08-05-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I'm not naming names. Not that anyone is confused as to who "Mr Happy" is, but I'm not getting into it. Only a matter of time until he flips out and gets himself banned, again.

Some people just can't keep their mouths shut for the sake of doing business.

Good eye, but it seems obvious

Mutt · 08-05-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy

If you can provide models of this quality for $200 - $250 to mastubate on video I will make you a very rich man.

yeah, a lot of fortunes have been made referring girls to photographers paying 200 dollars per scene. i believe warren buffet did this.

08-04-2010, 06:46 PM	#1
LightscapeMedia DirtyPeach.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: I'm mobile Posts: 828	Help me settle a debate. Solo vs M/F Porn. I have been arguing with my business partner for the last couple of days. We only need models willing to do "Explicit Solo Nude" work including toys and masturbation. His take is that all of the girls he's been in contact with want to do M/F porn and do not want to do solo. My question is this: If both styles paid the same (Say $1000) and lasted the same amount of time, which would be easier to cast for? Assumptions: 1. Both jobs pay the same and will last the same amount of time 2. Both jobs require actual explicit sexual activity (Masturbation or M/F sex) 3. Will be paired with a random male partner not of their choice Which is easier to find performers for? My personal opinion is that for $1000, one should be able to find willing participants for solo work all day long. __________________

08-04-2010, 07:09 PM	#3
LightscapeMedia DirtyPeach.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: I'm mobile Posts: 828	They're turning my partner down. I say with $1000 cash in your pocket, one should be able to get girls to do solo left and right. __________________

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	I'm lost here. You are saying girls are turning down $1000 to do a solo masturbation scene and would rather get HPV for the same price?

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Mr Happy So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: LMFAO Posts: 485	and few more of the the quality models I would hire everyday for $200-$250 per solo masturbation shoot. Hell I am willing to pay $200 to $250 for solo masturbation shoots. Why not send them my way! I normally pay $500 to $800 for solo masturbation and $800 to $1200 for boygirl shoots If I can save money, I am game! Last edited by Mr Happy; 08-05-2010 at 12:49 AM..

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Strange thread. If you're having problems figuring out models I would suggest you try another job. Shooting porn is ALL ABOUT figuring out models. Nice girls Mr Happy. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70 Last edited by Paul Markham; 08-05-2010 at 12:44 AM..

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