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Old 08-26-2010, 06:43 AM   #1
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America's Top 10 Deadest Cities

1.Buffalo, New York ............. deadest city in America

In 1900, Buffalo was the eighth largest city in America. It was located on one of the busiest sections of the Erie Canal, the terminus of the canal on the Great Lakes. Thanks to its location, Buffalo had huge grain milling operations and one of the largest steel mills in the country. Buffalo prospered during WWII as did many northern industrial cities. After the WWII, the manufacturing plants returned to the production of cars and industrial goods. The population rose to more than 500,000 in the mid-1950s. It is half that today. Buffalo was wounded irreparably by the de-industrialization of America.

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2.Flint, Michigan

3.Hartford, Conneticutt

4.Cleveland, Ohio

5.New Orleans, Louisianna

6.Detroit, Michigan

7.Albany, New York

8.Atlantic City, New Jersey

9.Allentown, Pennsylvannia

10.Galveston, Texas
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It's sad when a city is based on a certain industry, and when that industry dies or moves the town is left with nothing. It's sad really.
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ive heard some crazy stories about new orleans but i didnt think it was too bad when i went to mardi gras. its still a fun vacation destination.
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Having grown up in the Allentown area and now going back once a year or so I would have to say it is difficult to argue. The whole Bethlehem Steel thing has just slowly kicked a whole in the town (find it weird calling it a city but I guess it is). Billy Joel sang a song about us for a reason and that was ages ago and it is still more or less true.

When I went back last time the big thing in the area is the new casino ...yay.
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LOL Flint is #2?!? thats a crappy town, but I would have never guessed it was #2!!
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it's a shame bc the suburbs of Buffalo are not bad...some beautiful old victorian style homes ...
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1.Buffalo, New York ............. deadest city in America

In 1900, Buffalo was the eighth largest city in America. It was located on one of the busiest sections of the Erie Canal, the terminus of the canal on the Great Lakes. Thanks to its location, Buffalo had huge grain milling operations and one of the largest steel mills in the country. Buffalo prospered during WWII as did many northern industrial cities. After the WWII, the manufacturing plants returned to the production of cars and industrial goods. The population rose to more than 500,000 in the mid-1950s. It is half that today. Buffalo was wounded irreparably by the de-industrialization of America.

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I grew up just outside of Buffalo and have watched the city slowly go away. A few years ago, Buffalo had the record number of people moving out of its city each month.

Erie county has NO money, just none. A lot of what happens is that the WNY regions are hindered due to NYC and the taxes, medicaid, medicare, etc.

There has been much talk of the Buffalo Bills moving out of the city, one thought was Vegas a few years ago. If the Bills leave Buffalo, you can just close the city down completely.
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how can that be with the drug cartel in mexico? not one boarder town?
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how can that be with the drug cartel in mexico? not one boarder town?
I was wondering that myself... We had like 4-5 murders in the City here last week (that I actually saw on the news) and already a couple this week. Tucson is about double the states average for violent crimes and above the national average too. Population wise, some of those border cities have to be off the chart.
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Bad trade agreements for steel and autos killed those cities.
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I grew up just outside of Buffalo and have watched the city slowly go away. A few years ago, Buffalo had the record number of people moving out of its city each month.

Erie county has NO money, just none. A lot of what happens is that the WNY regions are hindered due to NYC and the taxes, medicaid, medicare, etc.

There has been much talk of the Buffalo Bills moving out of the city, one thought was Vegas a few years ago. If the Bills leave Buffalo, you can just close the city down completely.
Yes if the Bills leave this city will be another Watertown. They are making every effort to keep that from happening but we will see what happens when Ralph Wilson dies. The Sabres are still here but that won't be enough.

Great area to raise kids and their are plenty of things to do in the surrounding areas. Short of that the city is hurting.
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are those cities strongholds of republicans or democrats? That should tell a lot, if anyone is willing to do the research.
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Yes if the Bills leave this city will be another Watertown. They are making every effort to keep that from happening but we will see what happens when Ralph Wilson dies. The Sabres are still here but that won't be enough.

Great area to raise kids and their are plenty of things to do in the surrounding areas. Short of that the city is hurting.
Yeah, the Sabres are big but just not the same as the Bills.

And just think, Buffalo just got a Cheesecake Factory.
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I was wondering that myself... We had like 4-5 murders in the City here last week (that I actually saw on the news) and already a couple this week. Tucson is about double the states average for violent crimes and above the national average too. Population wise, some of those border cities have to be off the chart.
Deadest, not deadliest.
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I graduated from the State University of New York in Albany, NY. I used to leave campus to see concerts and go shopping and other leisure activities. Not the most exciting town compared to somewhere like LA, Miami or Vegas, but it wasn't a bad city at all, at least not twenty years ago.
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Back in the day - like between ten & thirty years ago - my band frequently played Buffalo. There is a reason they're called "Buffalo Wings"

If more people went to Buffalo and sampled the poultry instead of worrying about fires in Amherst, the place would have 3,000,000 residents.

All chicken wing fans, move to Buffalo. Well, ten-twenty years ago it might have worked.

Irv Weinstein FTW. Hey, I may be from Toronto, but I grew up with Rocket Ship 7 and the immortal phrase, "Its eleven o'clock. Do you know whewre your children are?"

I love Buffalo. Great people. Great town.

WKBW bitches.

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Back in the day - like between ten & thirty years ago - my band frequently played Buffalo. There is a reason they're called "Buffalo Wings"
Mmmm.....wings. With bleu cheese, they don't know what ranch is in Buffalo.


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Mmmm.....wings. With bleu cheese, they don't know what ranch is in Buffalo.
YES!!!!
Thank GOD for that. Blue cheese made me fall in love with Buffalo. The amazing citizens of that city keep me coming back.

I think I'll drive down there Saturday, listen to some jazz and eat some perfectly cooked poultry.
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Tucson is about double the states average for violent crimes and above the national average too.
Yes... I've heard that Tucson is a shithole.
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What what? Do tell. Is Herzog really making a movie there?


I really got a kick out of that Loch Ness Monster mockumentary he did. Gotta love someone with such a good sense of humor about themselves.
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Also- and this is really just for Captain Howdy- they are making a Gate remake.. not sure if you had mentioned that to me originally or not, but I just found out the other day that Alex Winter is directing it (Bill from Bill and Ted / Lost Boys). Makes it a little more interesting.
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i grew up a stone's throw away from Buffalo on the Canadian side - it's a great area with great hard working people with big hearts. i'm old enough to remember Buffalo when it was still somewhat of a major city though my memories as a kid in the 70's was that it was beginning to fall apart downtown. my parents would take us 'over the river' to the suburbs for movies and mini golf. Shap's wife grew up in the same place. We moved away when I was 14.

now for my parent's generation, Buffalo was the shit, for nightclubs, live theater, Crystal Beach where my grandpa owned a little hotel right in the shadow of the big wooden roller coaster. I still drink Crystal Beach Loganberry when we can find somewhere selling it. A bunch of my aunts and uncles met at the Crystal Beach dancehall in the 50's, why I have so many American relatives.

I've been a Bills fans forever, OJ was a god. The Sabres are as big a part of Buffalo as any Canadian team is to its city. Ralph Wilson is a senile bastard, playing with the people of Western New York's hearts and emotions - he's Mr Burns. He knows how important the Bills are to the city, it's Buffalo's last remnant of being relevant nationally, the emotional attachment to the Bills for people in WNY is the same as it is for Green Bay and their fans.
Ralph bought the Bills franchise for $60,000 and they are worth today just under 1 billion dollars. He is now 91 or 92 years old and refuses to reassure the people that after he dies the people of Buffalo will have a chance to keep the team in Buffalo. Nobody expects him to just hand over the franchise to the city, what he should do is assure them that if somebody rich or the community can come up with something close to market value they will get the team. But he refuses and cruelly makes comments that are meant to hurt and scare people. The NFL I think will do its best to keep the Bills in Buffalo, they are a heritage franchise like Green Bay BUT as Buffalo continues to die rapidly it really might become unfeasible.

I understand why some people leave the Buffalo's and Cleveland's, they go to college and there aren't job opportunities in the area for them so they move away. I have no idea why but the most popular destination for people who leave Buffalo is North Carolina.

People who just leave because Buffalo isn't warm and hip enough for them, traitors. They are as responsible for the death of Buffalo as the death of the steel industry and the other factors that are killing the cities in that list. It's inevitable that those cities are going to be dead, 50 years from now the Rust Belt will be a giant ghost town. They are already tearing down areas of Detroit and returning it to nature. Pretty creepy, giant burial grounds.

Phoenix, Tampa, San Diego and the rest of the cities where Rust Belt refugees end up - soul-less places.
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I believe that our attitude here should be either of plain indifference or "I hope they ruin it" in order to keep all (or any) the expectations down ...

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1.Buffalo, New York ............. deadest city in America

In 1900, Buffalo was the eighth largest city in America. It was located on one of the busiest sections of the Erie Canal, the terminus of the canal on the Great Lakes. Thanks to its location, Buffalo had huge grain milling operations and one of the largest steel mills in the country. Buffalo prospered during WWII as did many northern industrial cities. After the WWII, the manufacturing plants returned to the production of cars and industrial goods. The population rose to more than 500,000 in the mid-1950s. It is half that today. Buffalo was wounded irreparably by the de-industrialization of America.

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2.Flint, Michigan

3.Hartford, Conneticutt

4.Cleveland, Ohio

5.New Orleans, Louisianna

6.Detroit, Michigan

7.Albany, New York

8.Atlantic City, New Jersey

9.Allentown, Pennsylvannia

10.Galveston, Texas


Honored to have 2 of Michigan's finest cities on the list. Strange that Flint is higher than Detroit but not entirely surprising.

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Old 08-27-2010, 09:03 AM   #46
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I hope the Sabres don't move but if they do in the next few years I know one city who would take them in a heartbeat.

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ive heard some crazy stories about new orleans but i didnt think it was too bad when i went to mardi gras. its still a fun vacation destination.
yeah what people don't realize is that its New Orleans East that has most of the blight. They need to make NOE it's own city or something...

the quarter, uptown, garden district, all those places are good to go, there has always been problems in nola and there is a new mayor who is really doing good things finally like fixing the streets, etc.

but the city has been back to its normal crazy party ways, never really stopped.

most of the problems they still suffer have been caused by mismanagement more than katrina, they've had hurricanes here forever and life goes on...
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I hope the Sabres don't move but if they do in the next few years I know one city who would take them in a heartbeat.

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no chance of the Sabres moving. Winnipeg will get a team as long as the CDN dollar stays within 15 cents of the USD.
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america shipped all it's production and real wage jobs overseas. that is why when the credit was turned off america died. rip usa.
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What what? Do tell. Is Herzog really making a movie there?


I really got a kick out of that Loch Ness Monster mockumentary he did. Gotta love someone with such a good sense of humor about themselves.
Hopefully, he can manage not to get shot again. The film reviewer I have a bit of a celeb crush on was the BBC guy with him when he got shot. There is a whole chapter in the reviewer (Mark Kermode's) recent book about the shooting. As if we didn't already know he is a character it made sure Herzog sounds like legend..if more than a tad mad.
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