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  • xmas13
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    • Dec 2004
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    Smokers have lower IQs, says study

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/...ectid=10628360

    The study of more than 20,000 Israeli military recruits found young men who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day or more had IQ scores that were 7.5 points lower than non-smokers.

    The study, by Dr Mark Weiser and colleagues from Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer, found the average IQ for non-smokers was about 101, while it was 94 for men who had started smoking before entering the military.

    IQ steadily dropped as the number of cigarettes smoked increased - from 98 for people who smoked one to five cigarettes daily to 90 for those who smoked more than a pack a day.


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  • Randy West
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    #2
    Of course smokers have lower IQ's. It's public information and has been for 40+ years that smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, etc. You'd have to be a complete and total dunce to smoke in the first place.

    People that are smart listen to facts and knowledge and know not to smoke for fear of their well being. It takes a scientific study to figure this out?

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    • Grapesoda
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      #3
      Originally posted by Randy West
      Of course smokers have lower IQ's. It's public information and has been for 40+ years that smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, etc. You'd have to be a complete and total dunce to smoke in the first place.

      People that are smart listen to facts and knowledge and know not to smoke for fear of their well being. It takes a scientific study to figure this out?


      what kind of IQ for sodomites?

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      • Randy West
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        #4
        Originally posted by bm bradley
        what kind of IQ for sodomites?

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        • TeenCat
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          #5
          stupid will always remain stupid, doesnt matter how much lsd he take

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          • darksoul
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            • crazytrini85
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              #7
              Originally posted by Randy West
              Not bad bud.

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              • woj
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                #8
                now all they need to prove is whether smoker makes people dumb, or if dumb people choose to smoke...
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                • BlackCrayon
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                  #9
                  if they quit, do they get smarter? lol
                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                  • Amputate Your Head
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                    #10
                    The study of more than 20,000 Israeli military recruits found young men who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day or more had IQ scores that were 7.5 points lower than non-smokers.

                    The study, by Dr Mark Weiser and colleagues from Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer, found the average IQ for non-smokers was about 101, while it was 94 for men who had started smoking before entering the military.

                    IQ steadily dropped as the number of cigarettes smoked increased - from 98 for people who smoked one to five cigarettes daily to 90 for those who smoked more than a pack a day.
                    Or maybe the smokers just didn't give a fuck about their stupid test. Smokers tend not to give a shit about retarded exercises in futility.
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                    • LAJ
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                      #11
                      And in other news, people who drink a lot of alcohol on a daily basis by and large tend to be in worse health than those who don't.
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                      • ottopottomouse
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                        • KrissyElise
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by woj
                          now all they need to prove is whether smoker makes people dumb, or if dumb people choose to smoke...
                          I would think one would have to be dumb to start smoking.

                          Originally posted by ottopottomouse
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                          • Amputate Your Head
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                            #14
                            Seems like the non-smokers are the dumb ones... they are unable to grasp the concept of "free will" and "choice".
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                            • roly
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Randy West
                              Of course smokers have lower IQ's. It's public information and has been for 40+ years that smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, etc. You'd have to be a complete and total dunce to smoke in the first place.

                              People that are smart listen to facts and knowledge and know not to smoke for fear of their well being. It takes a scientific study to figure this out?
                              you could say the same for drinking alcohol, riding motorbikes or horses, being a porn star.... the list goes on. they're all pastimes that can potentially damage your health. you pay your money and take your choice, it doesn't make you an idiot to smoke just an addict.

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                              • _Richard_
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                                #16
                                *powerfist*

                                how much iq for boozers?

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                                • lazycash
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                  Or maybe the smokers just didn't give a fuck about their stupid test. Smokers tend not to give a shit about retarded exercises in futility.
                                  .... or their own health.
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                                    i blame the progressives
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                                    • PornstarXS
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                                      #19
                                      Rot your bodies away only beef i have is second hand smoke. Only thing worse than second hand smoke is the guys who sweat nicotine in the gym.

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                                      • thecooze
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by amputate your head
                                        seems like the non-smokers are the dumb ones... They are unable to grasp the concept of "free will" and "choice".
                                        amen!!!!!!

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                                        • lazycash
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                          Seems like the non-smokers are the dumb ones... they are unable to grasp the concept of "free will" and "choice".
                                          Its hard to grasp how someone like you who has a child and maybe someday grandchildren to live for, would knowingly do something that is going to end your life earlier all because you've chosen to use nicotine as your daily crutch.
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                                          • Amputate Your Head
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PornstarXS
                                            Rot your bodies away only beef i have is second hand smoke. Only thing worse than second hand smoke is the guys who sweat nicotine in the gym.

                                            "I'm sorry I ruined your New Year's Eve party, Lieutenant Dan. She tasted like cigarettes."
                                            There is one thing that's worse.... people who whine & bitch about 2nd-hand smoke all the time. Smoking has already been banished to the outdoors, so if you don't like 2nd-hand smoke, don't stand in the designated smoking areas. With no smoking allowed indoors anymore, there is nothing to complain about.
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                                            • Amputate Your Head
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by lazycash
                                              Its hard to grasp how someone like you who has a child and maybe someday grandchildren to live for, would knowingly do something that is going to end your life earlier all because you've chosen to use nicotine as your daily crutch.
                                              We all got it comin'. So you might live 10 years longer.... you're still going to end up in the same place as me.
                                              Should people not take risky jobs either? There's a possibility you might die prematurely in one of those too.
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                                              • BlackCrayon
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by lazycash
                                                Its hard to grasp how someone like you who has a child and maybe someday grandchildren to live for, would knowingly do something that is going to end your life earlier all because you've chosen to use nicotine as your daily crutch.
                                                there is a lot of things you can die from. sure, smoking is bad for you but there are carsinogins in alcohol, perscription meds, all sorts of things. just eating burned meat could give you cancer. hell drinking bad tap water can give you cancer. lots of people drink coffee as their daily crutch but you can get stomach cancer from that too.
                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                • Agent 488
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                                                  #25
                                                  100 years ago and results would have been different. who cares.

                                                  real men use studies to shape and manipulate people. only fools follow them or try and derive insight from them.

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                                                  • thecooze
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                                                    #26
                                                    Soon enough they are going to make a section right next to every smoking section called "the people who dont smoke that can fuck off area".

                                                    Im gonna go have a smoke right now and blow in a puppies face.

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                                                    • Ethersync
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                                                      #27
                                                      not surprising
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                                                      • pornguy
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Randy West
                                                        Of course smokers have lower IQ's. It's public information and has been for 40+ years that smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, etc. You'd have to be a complete and total dunce to smoke in the first place.

                                                        People that are smart listen to facts and knowledge and know not to smoke for fear of their well being. It takes a scientific study to figure this out?
                                                        NO.

                                                        It took a scientific study to make them decide to do a scientific study about the smoking.
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                                                        • Chosen
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                                                          #29
                                                          I'm not surprised, always thought that smoking is stupid
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                                                          • grumpy
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                            Seems like the non-smokers are the dumb ones... they are unable to grasp the concept of "free will" and "choice".
                                                            i second that...
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                                                            • grumpy
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                              100 years ago and results would have been different. who cares.

                                                              real men use studies to shape and manipulate people. only fools follow them or try and derive insight from them.
                                                              wise words....amen
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                                                              • lazycash
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                there is a lot of things you can die from. sure, smoking is bad for you but there are carsinogins in alcohol, perscription meds, all sorts of things. just eating burned meat could give you cancer. hell drinking bad tap water can give you cancer. lots of people drink coffee as their daily crutch but you can get stomach cancer from that too.
                                                                Exactly my point, so you eliminate everything you can control in order to give yourself the best health and longest life possible. Also, the deaths related to all of your comparisons don't add up to even 1% of those related to smoking.

                                                                The "I don't give a fuck" or "we've all gotta die sometime" excuse is just an easy way for smokers to justify their actions now to themselves, but you won't find them saying any of that when it starts to severely impact their quality of life, by then its usually too late to change the damage.
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                                                                • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by lazycash

                                                                  The "I don't give a fuck" or "we've all gotta die sometime" excuse is just an easy way for smokers to justify their actions now to themselves,
                                                                  What you call an "excuse", I call a fact of life.
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                                                                  • bdld
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    not surprised, smokers are borderline mentally retarded.

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                                                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                      Exactly my point, so you eliminate everything you can control in order to give yourself the best health and longest life possible. Also, the deaths related to all of your comparisons don't add up to even 1% of those related to smoking.

                                                                      The "I don't give a fuck" or "we've all gotta die sometime" excuse is just an easy way for smokers to justify their actions now to themselves, but you won't find them saying any of that when it starts to severely impact their quality of life, by then its usually too late to change the damage.
                                                                      i don't smoke but i think i'd rather (for the most part) just enjoy life instead of constantly worrying about what might be killing me.
                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                      • lazycash
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                        We all got it comin'. So you might live 10 years longer.... you're still going to end up in the same place as me.
                                                                        Should people not take risky jobs either? There's a possibility you might die prematurely in one of those too.
                                                                        So if you knew now that you could live 10 years longer if you stopped smoking the rest of your life, would you do it? Not a fair comparison to equate what one has to do for a living to support himself versus an elective chemical addiction.
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                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                          So if you knew now that you could live 10 years longer if you stopped smoking the rest of your life, would you do it? Not a fair comparison to equate what one has to do for a living to support himself versus an elective chemical addiction.
                                                                          Should we also take an anti-military stance? Those guys have preventable short life expectancies too. Not fair to compare an addiction that is hard to stop with a profession you can simply choose not to go into.
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                                                                          • Vick!
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by woj
                                                                            now all they need to prove is whether smoker makes people dumb, or if dumb people choose to smoke...
                                                                            Now, that's a serious thought
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                                                                            • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              A life member of the Montreal Pipe Smokers Club, Einstein was quoted as saying: "Pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment of human affairs." He once fell into the water during a boating expedition but managed heroically to hold on to his pipe.

                                                                              Albert Einstein.

                                                                              Which has the lower IQ again?
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                                                                              • lazycash
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                i don't smoke but i think i'd rather (for the most part) just enjoy life instead of constantly worrying about what might be killing me.
                                                                                Yeah would be nice if we could all live that way, unfortunately that's now how it works if you want to live a long healthy life. Again, don't equate "constant worrying" to quitting smoking, I'm talking about a one time decision on one thing that will have a dramatic impact on your quality and length of life.
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                                                                                • Dirty Dane
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Israeli military huh? Most jewish smokers have higher IQ than non-jewish non-smokers

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                                                                                  • lazycash
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                    Should we also take an anti-military stance? Those guys have preventable short life expectancies too. Not fair to compare an addiction that is hard to stop with a profession you can simply choose not to go into.
                                                                                    You're right, its not fair, that's what I said. I've heard enough of your life Amp to know that you're strong enough to quit, just gotta make that decision. Its not about justification via analogies, comparisons and innuendo, its about making a decision for yourself to instantly make yourself healthier and give yourself the best chance to live a long healthy life. When your grandchild comes to you and asks why you have a breathing tube and can't play with them, you'll reflect back on your years of smoking and wonder why you didn't quit. www.whyquit.com
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                                                                                    • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                      You're right, its not fair, that's what I said. I've heard enough of your life Amp to know that you're strong enough to quit, just gotta make that decision. Its not about justification via analogies, comparisons and innuendo, its about making a decision for yourself to instantly make yourself healthier and give yourself the best chance to live a long healthy life. When your grandchild comes to you and asks why you have a breathing tube and can't play with them, you'll reflect back on your years of smoking and wonder why you didn't quit. www.whyquit.com
                                                                                      My grandchildren won't be visiting, now or later. One kid is busy with life and I only hear from him about once a year. 2 other kids are estranged from me and my youngest daughter is dead.
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                                                                                      • AlCapone
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Who the fuck wants to live to be 105 anyways?
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                                                                                        • cykoe6
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by xmas13
                                                                                          Smokers have lower IQs
                                                                                          This seems self evident to me.
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                                                                                          • lazycash
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                            My grandchildren won't be visiting, now or later. One kid is busy with life and I only hear from him about once a year. 2 other kids are estranged from me and my youngest daughter is dead.
                                                                                            Sounds like you're giving me the "I don't have anything to live for so why quit" reasoning. I was merely trying to motivate you, if not for others then, do it for yourself.
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                                                                                            • lazycash
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by AlCapone
                                                                                              Who the fuck wants to live to be 105 anyways?
                                                                                              I'll take that, when you're 61 and in and out of the hospital with smoking related illnesses, you'll take it also.
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                                                                                              • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                Sounds like you're giving me the "I don't have anything to live for so why quit" reasoning. I was merely trying to motivate you, if not for others then, do it for yourself.
                                                                                                In truth, I am quitting. But it has nothing to do with "grandchildren" or "do it for the poor children" or living to be 147 or any of that nonsense.
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                                                                                                • gmr324
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  That reminds me of a classic idiotic quote that my wife's friend made trying to justify her smoking while pregnant.

                                                                                                  "I'll smoke on the porch when he's born"

                                                                                                  Not realizing she was doing more damage while she was pregnant. Amazingly enough, her son turned out fairly healthy and to have more intelligence than his mother. Must be one of those "skips a generation" genes.

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                                                                                                  • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by gmr324
                                                                                                    Amazingly enough, her son turned out fairly healthy and to have more intelligence than his mother. Must be one of those "skips a generation" genes.
                                                                                                    Well of course. The newborn wasn't a smoker so he was naturally more intelligent than his mother right from birth.
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