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  • Black Ops
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2006
    • 292

    #1

    SEO Experts: #1 in google to not listed at all

    No site changes made, went from #1 to not being listed. Can't find the site. Clearly got penalized for something but how to know what for if you didn't make any changes?
  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    950 penalty?

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    • mafia_man
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2005
      • 1965

      #3
      Did you buy hardlinks anywhere? If they used blackhat techniques to get ranked then you can be penalised too.
      I'm out.

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      • Gasper

        #4
        how long ago was this? maybe wait a few days to see it come back

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        • kane
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Aug 2001
          • 20684

          #5
          Originally posted by Gasper
          how long ago was this? maybe wait a few days to see it come back
          Exactly what I was going to ask. I have had sites that have good rankings disappear then 2-3 days later they are back in their normal spot.

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          • ilbb
            Confirmed User
            • May 2005
            • 3025

            #6
            google dance

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            • Denny
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2005
              • 17389

              #7
              That's normal

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              • JBlack
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2010
                • 399

                #8
                Originally posted by ilbb
                google dance
                Yeap... I've seen some of my sites disappear from the serps for 1-2 weeks and later on they come back to page 1.....

                U have to check whether or not your site is still indexed... if it isn't then ur fucked

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                • madawgz
                  8.8.8.8
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 30509

                  #9
                  it should come back
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                  • Black Ops
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 292

                    #10
                    No, didn't buy any hard links. No updates. Nothing. I've lost ranking before but never totally taken out of the machine.

                    I curse the google gods.

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                    • You Forgot Poland
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 286

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Black Ops
                      I curse the google gods.
                      Google giveth, and Google taketh away.

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                      • Highest Def
                        In the Cave of Gold
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 660

                        #12
                        The PR update, while not on any true schedule, is overdue from it's expected arrival. Maybe she's finally dancing.

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                        • CunningStunt
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5594

                          #13
                          Saying "it should come back" is neither here nor there.

                          What do you get when you type in:

                          site:yourdomainname.com?

                          Post the results.

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                          • seeandsee
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                            #14
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                            • mgtarheels
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                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1317

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mafia_man
                              Did you buy hardlinks anywhere? If they used blackhat techniques to get ranked then you can be penalised too.
                              Not true.

                              Either, you just met the Mayday or you have new backlinks and you're dancing a bit.

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                              • LaoTzu
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 350

                                #16
                                Tell us about the site. A while back, Google delisted all of a certain type of TGP script, presumably as a test. A week later, all the sites returned.

                                You may have existing link trades with sites that may now be deemed "bad neighborhood" sites. Check your outbound links for sketchy sites that Google may have issues with. Remove those links.

                                Any chance of a site hack? Check your .htaccess file and robots.txt.

                                What's the niche? Do you have user-generated content? Check that stuff for spam.

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                                • BettingHandle
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 1832

                                  #17
                                  The Google is an angry god

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                                  • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Aug 2009
                                    • 3163

                                    #18
                                    You're out of business, quit.

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                                    • Trichstir
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                                      • Aug 2008
                                      • 108

                                      #19
                                      1 of my wordpress blogs got it's robots.txt hacked and completely fucked up my google listings... still trying to recover that site months later.

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                                      • mikke
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                                        • Jan 2010
                                        • 1327

                                        #20
                                        oh, thats why im first right now! good to know ;)
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                                        • Agent 488
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                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 22511

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CunningStunt
                                          Saying "it should come back" is neither here nor there.

                                          What do you get when you type in:

                                          site:yourdomainname.com?

                                          Post the results.
                                          so ........

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                                          • daniel_webcams
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                                            • Nov 2008
                                            • 2491

                                            #22
                                            I have to admit that sometimes google have some strange and unpredicted movements
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                                            • mafia_man
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                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 1965

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mgtarheels
                                              Not true.

                                              Either, you just met the Mayday or you have new backlinks and you're dancing a bit.
                                              Try it and see.
                                              I'm out.

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                                              • Dreamteam
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2010
                                                • 472

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by mafia_man
                                                Did you buy hardlinks anywhere? If they used blackhat techniques to get ranked then you can be penalised too.
                                                Bullshit ...

                                                You won't be penalized for what or whomever links to you.
                                                How the fuck can you control that? And even better if that was the case it would be very easy to put someone out of business.

                                                G only take actions because you fucked up at your own website ... links out, backlinks, blackhat seo tech .... etc ..

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                                                • Adam_M
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                  • 3800

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by CunningStunt
                                                  Saying "it should come back" is neither here nor there.

                                                  What do you get when you type in:

                                                  site:yourdomainname.com?

                                                  Post the results.
                                                  This will show if you really do have some time out in the sandbox
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                                                  • myneid
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 736

                                                    #26
                                                    google changes their algorithm constantly. they make minor modifications about every 2 weeks and they roll out some pretty big changes to the indexing about once per quarter.
                                                    google has a great webmaster tool that should give you info about your site that could help you, just search for google webmaster tools
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                                                    • u-Bob
                                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                      • 33063

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mafia_man
                                                      Did you buy hardlinks anywhere? If they used blackhat techniques to get ranked then you can be penalised too.
                                                      so it's easy to take out the competition, just buy hardlinks to their sites

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                                                      • mgtarheels
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2010
                                                        • 1317

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by mafia_man
                                                        Try it and see.
                                                        If it was that simple, it'd be nfp to have competitors de indexed.

                                                        You're wrong.

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                                                        • CunningStunt
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 5594

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                          so ........
                                                          Exactly...

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                                                          • Jdoughs
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                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 5794

                                                            #30
                                                            I'd maybe ask in another thread, with far less information.

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                                                            • scubadiver626
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                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                              • 1034

                                                              #31
                                                              Googles bans are not permanent. Had a kick ass listing on a 11 year old domain.

                                                              Got heavy with blackhat and it was delisted from google. No worries. It got picked up again in a couple years, just do the right thing.
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                                                              • mafia_man
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                • 1965

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Dreamteam
                                                                Bullshit ...

                                                                You won't be penalized for what or whomever links to you.
                                                                How the fuck can you control that? And even better if that was the case it would be very easy to put someone out of business.

                                                                G only take actions because you fucked up at your own website ... links out, backlinks, blackhat seo tech .... etc ..
                                                                Would you like to detail some internal blackhat SEO techniques? Blackhat is all about links from other sites. Shit you do internally doesn't affect things, only if you do something wrong would it fuck up your rankings. For instance having robots.txt deny access.

                                                                Yes you can be penalised if your site is spammed all over the net. Yes you can lose rank or be wiped out completely by other people.

                                                                The only way of getting around this is by having enough legitimate links to justify your position. When I said hardlinks before I meant on spam sites, or sites that have recently turned spam.

                                                                I'm sure we'll see all the hates selling their SEO techniques in 'Buy and Sell' soon anyway.
                                                                I'm out.

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                                                                • JBlack
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2010
                                                                  • 399

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                  so it's easy to take out the competition, just buy hardlinks to their sites

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                                                                  • AlCapone
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                    • 708

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The blind leading the stupid.
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                                                                    • GoNe
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 2892

                                                                      #35
                                                                      There are no more Google dances now after they launched caffeine. There are so many factors to consider when trying to analyze ones drop in the serps.

                                                                      If you know you are doing something that is considered blackhat or borderline (greyhat) that could be it. For example keyword rich nonsense text somewhere on the page which is the same color as the bg.

                                                                      I know you said you didn't buy backlinks but another thing you could get penalized for is for buying backlinks from well known backlink sellers.
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                                                                      • mgtarheels
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2010
                                                                        • 1317

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by GoNe
                                                                        There are no more Google dances now after they launched caffeine. There are so many factors to consider when trying to analyze ones drop in the serps.

                                                                        If you know you are doing something that is considered blackhat or borderline (greyhat) that could be it. For example keyword rich nonsense text somewhere on the page which is the same color as the bg.

                                                                        I know you said you didn't buy backlinks but another thing you could get penalized for is for buying backlinks from well known backlink sellers.
                                                                        No Google Dance???

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                                                                        • mgtarheels
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2010
                                                                          • 1317

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mafia_man
                                                                          Would you like to detail some internal blackhat SEO techniques? Blackhat is all about links from other sites. Shit you do internally doesn't affect things, only if you do something wrong would it fuck up your rankings. For instance having robots.txt deny access.

                                                                          Yes you can be penalised if your site is spammed all over the net. Yes you can lose rank or be wiped out completely by other people.

                                                                          The only way of getting around this is by having enough legitimate links to justify your position. When I said hardlinks before I meant on spam sites, or sites that have recently turned spam.

                                                                          I'm sure we'll see all the hates selling their SEO techniques in 'Buy and Sell' soon anyway.
                                                                          This shit isn't 1999 anymore. You're still wrong.

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                                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 42635

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by JBlack
                                                                            U have to check whether or not your site is still indexed... if it isn't then ur fucked
                                                                            No. You simply appeal or send a re-inclusion request to Google. It's not that hard.

                                                                            This is assuming you were not caught red headed maliciously doing some bullshit.
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                                                                            • mafia_man
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                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 1965

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by mgtarheels
                                                                              This shit isn't 1999 anymore. You're still wrong.
                                                                              OK then smart arse why did he drop out then?
                                                                              I'm out.

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                                                                              • JBlack
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2010
                                                                                • 399

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                No. You simply appeal or send a re-inclusion request to Google. It's not that hard.

                                                                                This is assuming you were not caught red headed maliciously doing some bullshit.
                                                                                Yes, I've heard u can do that however I haven't heard from 1 person who was successful getting his site re-included in the SERPs after sending a re-inclusion req (yeap, I have a nice network).

                                                                                Sure there's got to be a few re-inclusions on a case-by-case basis but I mean, I have tested some shit with some sites of mine and I abused the hell out of them just to see how far I could push the envelope and after doing some moderately hardcore shit my site was still on the serps... sure it disappeared for a week or so but it then came back (it was still indexed btw)

                                                                                If u get completely de-indexed you're obviously trying to break google's heart or some shit like that, at which point.... not even a romantic re-inclusion notice will help
                                                                                Last edited by JBlack; 08-04-2010, 01:00 AM.

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                                                                                • mafia_man
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                  • 1965

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                  so it's easy to take out the competition, just buy hardlinks to their sites
                                                                                  Obviously if you're ranked with clean links from popular blogs and the like you're not going to be de-indexed over something like that.

                                                                                  My post detailing those that use bought links/trades as a sole means of traffic generation. Read most TGP/MGP/Tubes etc.
                                                                                  I'm out.

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                                                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                    • 42635

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by JBlack
                                                                                    Yes, I've heard u can do that however I haven't heard from 1 person who was successful getting his site re-included in the SERPs after sending a re-inclusion req.
                                                                                    I have. So now you know one person who has done it. There is a form you fill out and fax over to them. You can also do it in Webmaster Tools, or Analytics. I can't remember which.
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                                                                                    • JBlack
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2010
                                                                                      • 399

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                      I have. So now you know one person who has done it.
                                                                                      OK then.......... this is a remarkable night for me. I got to meet the first person to actually get re-included in Google's heart. Very impressive indeed, must have been an important domain...

                                                                                      Cheers!

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                                                                                      • Calico Jack
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                        • 2051

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                        I have. So now you know one person who has done it. There is a form you fill out and fax over to them. You can also do it in Webmaster Tools, or Analytics. I can't remember which.
                                                                                        It's Webmaster Tools! Once you log in, just look in the yellow box in the left column. There's a link there that says 'Site Reconsideration'. That's what you need.

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                                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 42635

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Calico Jack
                                                                                          It's Webmaster Tools! Once you log in, just look in the yellow box in the left column. There's a link there that says 'Site Reconsideration'. That's what you need.
                                                                                          I knew it was one of them. I couldn't remember which. I preferred to fax in my info.

                                                                                          I wanna say it took 6 weeks or something. Maybe 2 months.
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