i call myself an small collector because i have over 30 weapons 10 of em Glocks and i can tell you for a fact that anywhere on the US is 3 times easier to get a CCW than any other country on this planet

This argument is debatable. Some take your side. Others say that knowing a person is armed is a deterrent. I agree with the latter.

Let's say that my name is Brian Bradley and I'm a mentally deranged recovering addict that makes a point out of bringing up a particular individuals name all the time. Let's say that, as Brian Bradley, I constantly bring up "don't kill my family" or other such phrases. Psychologically, some might interpret this accusation as a reverse-psychology-type threat. Let's say the person I'm threatening in this manner does indeed take it that way.

Now, if I, Brian Bradley, knew that the other person was legally armed would I be more or less likely to try doing anything to that person the next time I took a trip into his area of the country (which Brian is known to do upon occasion)?

I know a handful of Brian Bradleys right here on this board who have made similar statements that could be taken as threats. Some have even outright "rooted" for my death. Those threats are scary, my friend.

The fact that I am equipped to defend myself, and that I constantly practice and/or take classes that further train me to defend myself... that is information I want threatening people to know about.

Outside of scenarios where self defense or defense of family is made necessary, there is nothing to fear from me.

Lots of trouble with who and why would it get him killed?

Speaking of which.....Gabe offers some kick ass classes that you may be interested.

http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/

I carefully worded that post. I am not making threats to anyone. I'm just stating that there have been people here on GFY who have made statements to me that could be considered threats. Brian happens to be one of those people, and he scares me because I know about his past. His mind is definitely one of those that can be saying one thing and meaning something entirely different. He has repeatedly said, "Don't kill my family" which is a very odd thing to say to someone who has never once posed a threat to him, and who in fact has referred people to him and publicly praised his abilities as a photographer.

And like I said, there are other "Brian Bradleys" who have posted things about me here, and who don't live so far away that they couldn't drive here to pay a visit if they chose to do so. Some have even made statements about how much they'd enjoy my death.

Do I think anyone really will go through with anything and try to harm me? No, I don't. I think it's just boredom that leads to such ignorant keyboard-warrior style posts. But you never know.

Picture some guys in the gun shop wanting to buy a gun but can't and they hear this idiot bragging having to on him. What stops them to jump him, steel his guns and possibly hurt him and go shoot someone.

To me there is way more chance of this happening to someone flaunting about carrying a gun then Donny having to use it to protect himself from a violent attack :2 cents:

That gattling gun was something my step dad worked on a couple years before he died, damn fun to shoot. He was a machinist.
Look in my sig, email is there, but if you going to just show me fire power, I was on a submarine, modern submarines can make countries go "POOF".
Everything else is just a cool factor for being fun to shoot, that gattling was a model 1900 which I actually found the blueprints for online, forget the caliber, but for being over a century old, it rocked to shoot.
I have some flint locks that are very cool to shoot, considering the 69 caliber lead balls that come out!

Pretty decent pricing, too. I just might have to take one or two or nine of those. :)

Your scenario is as ridiculous as the scenario of Donny playing Rambo to save the neighborhood.

Really?

http://www.8newsnow.com/global/story.asp?s=12785291

Exactly my thought. J, we all know your vendetta against Donny. Seriously though... the scenario is bunk.

THats nothing like the scenario laid out...

Uh... ok?

A person who never shot a pistol might miss that's why its better to have this..

http://www.autoburst.net/graphics/Rifles/Moss500.jpg

Could you elaborate on this please?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No, it's really not bunk at all.

Letting the world know you are carrying can generate a few different reactions:

1: If there is somebody who intends harm to others and they know you are packing, you have just painted a target on yourself. People still rob banks that have armed guards, but they typically neutralize that threat.

2: Since not everybody is comfortable around guns, you could inadvertently create a situation that ends up hurting you like 21 days ago when Police murdered a man in a Las Vegas Costco store simply because somebody noticed he was packing and called the cops.

3: Just like on GFY, some people run their mouths in real life. They wanna call you a pussy for carrying a gun in public or whatever. The bottom line is that this creates a challenge situation when no situation needed to be created in the first place.

4: The element of surprise is completely gone. Should you need to use your weapon, you've lost that second or 2 advantage.

All this being said, there are some states that I do not have a CWP for. In those states, I often open carry, when allowed, but I'm very aware of my surroundings and I take extra precautions to limit the visibility of my gun. IE, while standing at a counter I will turn sideways so my gun is under the counter and out of site of those standing around me. I'll also make sure my gun side is towards the inside of a table instead of exposed to the entire restaurant. Etc...

If you're carrying a gun simply to let others know you are carrying a gun, you're a fucking tool and yes, you most likely will end up with trouble.

Shreveport, LA.

This is what you would think but nobody can shoot. Don't believe me? Take a cop or thug to the shooting range. :1orglaugh

Mostly because that article is full of lies to cover up the cops fuck ups.

Bottom line is the man was licensed to carry and somebody called the cops on him for it because he was arguing with store management. The cops reacted wrong, put excessive rounds into the man, & killed him.

Big ass cover up ensues.....

Had nobody known he was carrying, he would still be alive.

And here Aaron makes the arguments for the other side/opinion I mentioned before... but since you ended your post by talking about your own carry habits, I'd say you must think letting people know outweighs the risk of them knowing. Is that correct?

What the hell are you talking about? You said you don't carry a gun to avoid a fight, you carry it to resolve some situation where a madman is shooting up some place in public. You also pointed out that people who only have a gun in the house for protection in case of a break-in are more dangerous than these weird-ass survivalist nutballs that carry guns in public. I pointed out that situation one is about as likely as winning the lottery, or less so. Your second hypothesis is just ridiculous.

I shot 38 out of 40 human silhouettes for an expert rating in the US Army. Whether you can shoot better than me or not doesn't really matter, because I can definitely hit some fuck sneaking around in my house, as can just about anyone at close range. I also don't need hollow point cop killers to stop the crackhead who just jimmied my back door.

See, it's shit like that that makes gun fanatics so dangerous. Carrying around a 9 on your ankle and a .45 in your waistband loaded with hollow points, just waiting for somebody to fuck with you. That may not apply to you personally, but it applies to probably about 95% of these guys. They carry those guns in case of road rage. Or in case some black dude disrespects them in a mall. A chickenshit gun nut walking around mad at the world who thinks the govt. and Mexicans are out to get them is just about the most dangerous individual to have walking our streets I can imagine.

Or a group of webmasters.

Most of you fuckers should not be allowed around firearms.

Yeah shotguns are best for home defense, but I like keeping my pistol in the drawer right by my head. I don't want to leave a shotgun out on display where I can get to it quick, and I don't want it on a closet shelf in case I DO need to get to it quick. I have a 9mm with 16 rds in the clip, and if I can't take someone out with that, I don't deserve to live lol

Not at all. I never intend to let people know and prefer that they never do. I'm always covering my gun with my arm to decrease exposure. I'd prefer that all states honor each others CCW permits.

1. People rob banks for the money and yes they neutralize a threat... thats a plan of success. They didnt enter the bank to go at the guys with guns because they know they have them. I dont see this as the same...

2. Sure they noticed a gun and that may have triggered the cop response and evacuation, but as I read it, the guy was abusing their store and when confronted by police pulled his gun. I believe thats a bit more than just having a gun got him killed. He fucked up big time while having a gun. Probably didnt go through or abide by the training he was offered.

3. If someone finds another as a challenge simply because they are carrying... then youre dealing with a mental issue. If the person carrying is not posing a threat other than having himself armed... then there ideally shouldnt be an problem.

4. lost advantage... right... but again. people reading this arent going to be seeking Donny out... at least id hope not as theyd be giant hypocrites.

I was merely talking about the scenario Jman laid out about having a dude eager for a gun at a gun store eye balling Donny brag about his 2 firearms he now carries.

Obviously you know far more about fireamrs and their contorl, but I was arguing the logic of the comparison.

You wanna duke this out? :1orglaugh

well then...

Um...No, I didn't.

"That may not apply to you personally, but it applies to probably about 95% of these guys."

And I'm not necessarily speaking directly about YOU throughout that post either. Not one thing I have posted is ridiculous but pulling bullshit stats out of your ass that detract from your credibility is.

So knowing this, you should also know that you can get shotguns that will fit in your nightstand nicely. The Serbu Super Shorty comes to mind and it's around the same price as a good handgun plus the one time cost of the tax stamp.

Nice, I dig the flip grip.

I don't need stats to know that some guy who bought the seed bank from the Glenn Beck show to prepare for the coming apocalypse walking around the mall armed to the teeth is a bad thing. And that's who most of these CCW freaks are, walking into restaurants with a loaded sidearm in a holster like Doc Holliday. It's ridiculous.

I got a 9mm, I got a pit bull, I got bjj training too although I'm fat and old now. If that's not enough, then I'm never going to feel safe enough. I think I've done what's necessary already lol... Although if I had known about that before I got the handgun it would have definitely been an option.

I can see maybe carrying some Mace or a stun gun in public. Something non-lethal. A loaded gun is overdoing it.

completely false... Sure there are those nuts. But far more sane people carry for reasons rather than delusions.

Or even worse, watch them in the line of duty.

http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2.../14465336.html

19 shots fired, nothing hit but residential houses.:(

edit: also total bullshit that he stopped to take a firing position when he had no weapon. A man that just robbed a bunch of places for money is not looking for death by cop. If he was, he would have quit running.

You're obviously very ignorant of real facts, and instead make up your own. In the last 4 months I've had conversations with literally dozens of people who carry concealed. I've known some of them for years and never had a clue they carried. These are conservative little grand mothers, college aged guys and girls, pastors, business owners... normal, everyday people.

1: Sorry, I thought we were discussing whether or not announcing to the world that you are carrying a gun is the right thing to do and could potentially cause you problems.

2: The guy was flat out murdered. What you read in that article is lies. Too many eye witnesses with a different story and a video system that just happens to be experiencing "technical difficulties."

3: Agreed, however, see my response to #2.

4: I'm not talking about Donny specifically.

That's your misguided interpretation and opinions, not facts or laws.

I accept your apology...

It as nothing to do with donny, any Idiot letting the world knows he carries to weapons IS an idiot.

And is this Donny we are talking to, seems to me cheeseburger man been arguing he was not :1orglaugh

well its obvious he is, so lets get past that, although he didnt say he was or wasnt. Word games. good times...