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theking put it as simply as possible and you still don't get it. It wouldn't mater if Jesus himself presented the data, you can't tell shit from it except that your simplistic view of it is wrong on many levels.

And the Administration also claims that millions of jobs have been saved because of the stimulus. I certainly am not anywhere near being an expert in this matter...but logic tells me that most certainly jobs have not only been created but jobs have also been saved...which is inevitable when that large an amount of money has been introduced into the economy.

I will leave it up to the two opposing sides to argue the numbers. I for one have a difficult time understanding how one can spend money and create greater debt...is beneficial in the long run...but I can understand how it can keep the economy going for the short run.

As I have stated before...I personally think that we will struggle along for another 10 years or so...but I can visualize a really bad ending for our economy. I also do not blame any single administration for what is currently happening...but blame every Administration/Congress since the end of the '50's but specifically blame every Administration/Congress since...and including the Reagan Administration/Congress.

If you haven't noticed already, none of us take your stupid ass seriously. Please continue embarrassing yourself by claiming everyone else is stupid and not actually backing up anything.

And you still have not been able to convey how those numbers are wrong, just that there are several other factors, there isn't, you're just full of shit
Stay out of a conversaion you haven't the intelligence to be in, MORON

Yes, they said the stimulus saved all those jobs, which is a pretty safe thing to say, since it's not something that can be proved or disproved
I know you don't blame other administrations, I'm just getting tired of the whole blame Bush for everything banter, it doesn't help anything.

While the stimulus probably helped in some measure to keep the economy from slipping further, thats not what I'm mad at the obamanation for

I'm not mad about the stimulus, I'm mad at how it was implemented

I'm not mad about healthcare, I'm mad about how it was acheived and how it increases the powers of the government and how we can't afford it, it should have waited till the econmy was better and we could afford it.

Obama has some good goals, it's the way he's getting them done, like the bank overhaul, why is Freddie and Fannie excempt?

All this spending of the government, how much do you think ended up in some politicians bank account?

he's just comedy relief

Didn't a ton of that money just get 'lost' in the system? Everyone needs to get their cut ... you dont get shit done unless you pay your way ;) The US is so much like Russia it's staggering :)