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Old 07-29-2010, 09:19 AM   #1
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Hey illegal immigration whiners....

Just thought you'd like some facts for breakfast today.


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Obama's Department of Homeland Security has been deporting more undocumented immigrants than President Bush's ever did.

The number of deportations each year more than tripled during the Bush era -- and has kept going up since then. During fiscal year 2009, the first fiscal year of the Obama era, 387,790 immigrants were deported -- almost 100,000 more during the last full fiscal year of the Bush presidency.Department of Homeland Security officials stress one big difference between Bush and Obama policies: that the percentage of convicted criminals among the deportees is rising dramatically. In fiscal year 2008, 31 percent of the 369,221 deportees had criminal records. From October of 2009 to late April of 2010, that figure was up to 48 percent.

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I'm an illegal immigration opponent. Not a whiner.


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Then you should be loving the Obama Administration.
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Yeah Ive been saying this for awhile. Obama is a great double speaker. Fucking the illegals and Hispanics at the same time they are helping him get elected. He has done a good job pulling the wool over their eyes.
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About a month ago, the local fox news station said, some report showed the Border security was bigger/better on both borders than it has ever been in history. I haven't been able to find it though. Also noted, was Bush started a good bit of it, and Obama kept it going with really only a few directional changes along the way.
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Yeah Ive been saying this for awhile. Obama is a great double speaker. Fucking the illegals and Hispanics at the same time they are helping him get elected. He has done a good job pulling the wool over their eyes.
LOL, there's no 'win' here is there...
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LOL, there's no 'win' here is there...
lol They wont give the poor man a break lol
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Obama's Department of Homeland Security has been deporting more undocumented immigrants than President Bush's ever did.

The number of deportations each year more than tripled during the Bush era -- and has kept going up since then. During fiscal year 2009, the first fiscal year of the Obama era, 387,790 immigrants were deported -- almost 100,000 more during the last full fiscal year of the Bush presidency.Department of Homeland Security officials stress one big difference between Bush and Obama policies: that the percentage of convicted criminals among the deportees is rising dramatically. In fiscal year 2008, 31 percent of the 369,221 deportees had criminal records. From October of 2009 to late April of 2010, that figure was up to 48 percent.

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Obama's Department of Homeland Security has been deporting more undocumented immigrants than President Bush's ever did.

The number of deportations each year more than tripled during the Bush era -- and has kept going up since then. During fiscal year 2009, the first fiscal year of the Obama era, 387,790 immigrants were deported -- almost 100,000 more during the last full fiscal year of the Bush presidency.Department of Homeland Security officials stress one big difference between Bush and Obama policies: that the percentage of convicted criminals among the deportees is rising dramatically. In fiscal year 2008, 31 percent of the 369,221 deportees had criminal records. From October of 2009 to late April of 2010, that figure was up to 48 percent.

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thats bullshit deporting them so they can come right back. throw a monkey wrench in there build tent cities and give them 90 days then deport them.
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almost 100,000 more during the last full fiscal year of the Bush presidency.
according that chart... 387,790 (2009) - 358,886 (2008) = 28,904... i guess in obama math that's "almost 100,000"..?

also the 2009 number is from a newspaper.. and the 2010 number is a goal... versus the previous years with are actual stats... so including them on the chart is a tad misleading to morons who just look at the pretty bars..
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thats bullshit deporting them so they can come right back. throw a monkey wrench in there build tent cities and give them 90 days then deport them.
Yeah,... we should make them wash dishes at Applebees too.
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according that chart... 387,790 (2009) - 358,886 (2008) = 28,904... i guess in obama math that's "almost 100,000"..?

also the 2009 number is from a newspaper.. and the 2010 number is a goal... versus the previous years with are actual stats... so including them on the chart is a tad misleading to morons who just look at the pretty bars..
That's why I thought is was a perfect chart graphic.
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In 2017, when we look back at the 8 years of the Bush administration vs the 8 years of the Obama administration, THEN we can compare and contrast.

The term "night and day" comes to mind....
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true libertarians are anarchists. the libertarians that post here are political fools.
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Enough with FACTS ... charts and graphs non sense POOPY

I'm waiting for Glenn Beck to tell me what to think next ...

... wait for it.
... wait for it ...

bunch of fucking commies, the REPUBLIC is in trouble here

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LOL, there's no 'win' here is there...
Well isnt that what he is doing?
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I think this sums up my feelings pretty well .......

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a real libertarian would not let the imaginary construct of borders get in the way of the markets setting a true value on labor.

a real leftist would see that business interests are benefiting from illegal immigration because they keep labor costs down and thus should oppose it.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2006/feb/27/00011/
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a real libertarian would not let the imaginary construct of borders get in the way of the markets setting a true value on labor.

a real leftist would see that business interests are benefiting from illegal immigration because they keep labor costs down and thus should oppose it.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2006/feb/27/00011/
they want their cake and eat it too ...
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a real leftist would see that business interests are benefiting from illegal immigration because they keep labor costs down and thus should oppose it.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2006/feb/27/00011/
The problem lies in the welfare state. The libertarians I know would have no problem with an open border if there were no welfare state, min wage ect.
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The problem lies in the welfare state. The libertarians I know would have no problem with an open border if there were no welfare state, min wage ect.
uh huh. sure. i'll support it if, when, but ....
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if you truly believe in something it is not conditional. if your beliefs are conditional you are lying to yourself, or others, or both.
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uh huh. sure. i'll support it if, when, but ....
I know strange, they believe in smaller government and believe that bigger government is causing the problems for illegal immigrants. How un-libertarian of them.
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Out of the numbers deported how many are repeat deportees that have been caught, sent home, and come straight back only to be sent home again?
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They walk on land, whether citizens or not.
The only way to check if they are citizens is to ask for the identification card.
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Out of the numbers deported how many are repeat deportees that have been caught, sent home, and come straight back only to be sent home again?
We call that "the catch and release and catch again" policy.
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We call that "the catch and release and catch again" policy.
its like others things in the government its set up that way to make jobs.
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lets all move closer to the Canadian border where it's safer

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if you truly believe in something it is not conditional. if your beliefs are conditional you are lying to yourself, or others, or both.
If you think that the world is black and white, with no shades of grey, you are lying to yourself..... period. You are either a blind, unthinking fanatic.... or a teenager. Either way you seriously lack wisdom IMHO


Who are you to define whether someone else's points of view conform to your definitions? I consider myself Libertarian, but that does not mean I'm an anarchist. In my view there are many different shades to Libertarianism, and Anarchy is only one shade. This is a view held by many Political Scientists also. They assign all types of names to many of those shades.

By your same logic, then anyone that calls themselves left wing should believe that the state should control everything.... silly. There is plenty of shades of grey in personal world views.



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All this coming from the guy who made a thread claiming other people are whiners. Do you purposely pretend to be this stupid or does it come naturally?
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If you think that the world is black and white, with no shades of grey, you are lying to yourself..... period. You are either a blind, unthinking fanatic.... or a teenager. Either way you seriously lack wisdom IMHO


Who are you to define whether someone else's points of view conform to your definitions? I consider myself Libertarian, but that does not mean I'm an anarchist. In my view there are many different shades to Libertarianism, and Anarchy is only one shade. This is a view held by many Political Scientists also. They assign all types of names to many of those shades.

By your same logic, then anyone that calls themselves left wing should believe that the state should control everything.... silly. There is plenty of shades of grey in personal world views.



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Progressive polices are destroying that town not immigration laws...
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Progressive polices are destroying that town not immigration laws...
and it's coming to a town near you while we all worry about immigration ...

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Out of the numbers deported how many are repeat deportees that have been caught, sent home, and come straight back only to be sent home again?
Very good point
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In 2017, when we look back at the 8 years of the Bush administration vs the 8 years of the Obama administration, THEN we can compare and contrast.

The term "night and day" comes to mind....
hope to god it doesnt come to that. two more years and we can vote this clown out of office
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what the fuck is america's voice online.org???? lol

stats compiled by memos release by the washington compost???

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thats bullshit deporting them so they can come right back. throw a monkey wrench in there build tent cities and give them 90 days then deport them.
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Yeah Ive been saying this for awhile. Obama is a great double speaker. Fucking the illegals and Hispanics at the same time they are helping him get elected. He has done a good job pulling the wool over their eyes.
obama is deporting voting Hispanic citizens?
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Illegal immigrants crossing the border increase every year so how is that graph a sign of progress?
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If you think that the world is black and white, with no shades of grey, you are lying to yourself..... period. You are either a blind, unthinking fanatic.... or a teenager. Either way you seriously lack wisdom IMHO


Who are you to define whether someone else's points of view conform to your definitions? I consider myself Libertarian, but that does not mean I'm an anarchist. In my view there are many different shades to Libertarianism, and Anarchy is only one shade. This is a view held by many Political Scientists also. They assign all types of names to many of those shades.

By your same logic, then anyone that calls themselves left wing should believe that the state should control everything.... silly. There is plenty of shades of grey in personal world views.



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yet by your posts you prove again and again your are one of the most ideologically blinded on here.

owned idiot.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:35 PM   #45
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The most amazing thing about that graph IMO is the decline in deportations in 2002. The year after 9/11? Was it lack of resources or what?

Also, the economy going poorly under Obama is Bush's fault but deportations continuing to rise under Obama is due to Obama? I just want to understand how the hell everyone's supposed to determine what things are the cause of which president because it changes from thing to thing with seemingly no actual means of determining it.


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according that chart... 387,790 (2009) - 358,886 (2008) = 28,904... i guess in obama math that's "almost 100,000"..?

also the 2009 number is from a newspaper.. and the 2010 number is a goal... versus the previous years with are actual stats... so including them on the chart is a tad misleading to morons who just look at the pretty bars..
Ah, so it's a bullshit graphic then. Nevermind.
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yet by your posts you prove again and again your are one of the most ideologically blinded on here.

owned idiot.
Owned? YOu mean he made you look stupid by posting relevant facts followed by sound logic, only to have you respond with some stupidity that validates the fact that you're a brainwashed moron?
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Owned? YOu mean he made you look stupid by posting relevant facts followed by sound logic, only to have you respond with some stupidity that validates the fact that you're a brainwashed moron?
what "relevant facts" are you referring to exactly?
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hope to god it doesnt come to that. two more years and we can vote this clown out of office
The clowns were already voted out.

In 2012 Obama will be re-elected... no worries.
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The clowns were already voted out.

In 2012 Obama will be re-elected... no worries.
Oh man Im bookmarking this thread for an eventual bump in 2012, you are SO wrong. Obama has ZERO chance to be reelected.
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