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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17374788)

Just look at the comments on the torrent related articles that gideongallery posts, those guys have zero intention of ever paying, and even think it's their right to stick it to the man... :2 cents:

The thing about that is...only a very small percentage of those thieves would even think that way if it weren't for piracy.

If they HAD to pay to see porn, eventually they would. Even if it was just one time. Curiosity and human perversion would get to them.

But when it already is sitting there for free...and then places like GFY and a thousand other forums give thieves like gideongallery a voice to encourage theft...and then surfer forums with millions of uniques a day and links every paysite's entire ripped members areas are posted and categorized for ease of use...

Well those kinds of things convert people into BECOMING a person who "would never pay".

All those people WERE potential customers and it used to be our job as marketers to convince them to buy. But now? Good luck.

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17374728)

I never said to apply it to the paysite market. Obviously that doesn't work. I am applying it to the situation of the UFC only, and other LIVE PPV events. I have stopped buying fights because they are too expensive. I'll just read the play by play on sherdog.com from now on. Like I said, I would buy most of them if they were $30 cheaper. Every person I know that is a fan would too.

Now compare this with porn. UFC PPVs are live events, not something you just access every time you want to rub one out. I don't care what you charge for a porn paysite membership, because I would never pay for one. Why would you when everything is available free on the tubes? Totally different scenario. Their PPVs are too expensive, that is my only point.

Porn is a totally different ballgame, because everyone wants to give it all away for free. You don't need to pirate porn.(at least the end users don't)

What you would do is fucking irrelevant. Do you not think that these people, worth millions of dollars, haven't studied what effect each price point has on their bottom line? I assure you, they don't need your fucking help.

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17375200)

That's OK. They don't need my $59.99 either.

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17374788)

Just look at the comments on the torrent related articles that gideongallery posts, those guys have zero intention of ever paying, and even think it's their right to stick it to the man... :2 cents:

Yep, not only do they never have any intention of paying, the are proud to be pirating, say that any law against pirating will only make them do it more and in many cases they actually see themselves as some kind of revolutionary.

I actually read one comment where a guy said that they should band together and petition state attorney generals to ask for help in stopping the RIAA, MPAA and other media producers for using intimidating and heavy handed scare tactics against them. I almost fell out of my chair laughing. Imagine the letter: "Dear State Attorney General. I would like report an abuse. I download movies and music and games and whatever I want for free from various torrent sites. The copyright holders of this material are angry about this because they don't understand how the swarm works and that the VCR is legal. They are trying to scare me by threatening to sue me if I don't stop taking their stuff. Please tell them to stop and to leave me alone to take whatever I want. Thank you. "