Does that mean Canadians have more rights than Americans?

Maybe I should migrate to Canada.

Fiddy illegals (had to do it)

that's a good point, what do i know about american rights

i guess i could quote your founding fathers, but why laugh

i guess i could quote the WW2 propaganda, but why cry

so no, you're right, i have no idea what rights you guys do or don't have

i'll just say i am pointing out the blatant racism that is going on

The biggest issue I have with amnesty is giving a privilege to someone whose first order was to break a law of my country. You do that anywhere else, you get in trouble for it.

So someone pesters you cuz you have a different skin color? Welcome to the fucking world. Deal with it, it's what we've got to live with these days. I dealt with it all of the time with the harassment in Latin America and elsewhere - and ya know what? I didn't fucking bitch and whine that they were infringing on my rights - because in their country, I had none.

looks that way.... been that way in LA county for years

racism as in anything whites disagree with is racism or racism as in anything non whites want to do and are called on, is racism?

He does it all the time, and I would assume he is doing it right. Joe always covers his bases and I don't know the full process he goes through, all I know is he sends them home, via plane or bus.

This isn't a problem. They needed to make the feds look good. It'll be overturned on appeals. The rest of the law goes into effect just fine, so it's still a victory.

Just what I thought....................................

racism as in, second class citizens.

have you ever experienced racism? been told you can't marry cause the colour of your skin? fought your way out at the knees cause that was the only way you were going to survive?

you experienced racism?

i was being facetious...............................

The problem is, morons and liberals abuse the term "racism" to the point where it becomes a meaningless justification.

:1orglaugh so sad, but he still has those scam-tastic Gold Freedom Roosters to sell!

It is my understanding that he...just as any...law enforcement agency can...works through a 287(g) program which is a federal program that allows law enforcement to turn over illegal immigrants who have been arrested/convicted of a crime (other than simply being an illegal immigrant) to the feds for deportation.

Complaints about Arpaio's immigration enforcement tactics led the federal government last October to yank his authority to enforce immigration laws during patrols...and he is currently under federal investigation.

SB1070 violations are/were all misdemeanors, not prison offenses by any means. I'm guessing Shurf Joe will pick up the pace now.

And you wonder why people suggest you are an idiot.

I don't know the fine lines of his operation. As I recall he always turned them over to the border patrol at the border and they send them home. If anything, it gets the job done.
I heard on the news he is under investigation, but this won't be the first time, nor the last and he always seems to win in the end, so I will place my faith in him instead of the corrupt federal government to get the job done ;)

He has plenty of raids scheduled for tomorrow and I am sure he will be successful in rounding up more to send home.

a law that only targets a segment of the population that pays taxes isn't racist?

Not what we wanted but certainly not a loss either. It sounded like the wording and phrases of the stricken parts had an impact on the decision.

This is gonna be a long haul, there is an upside though. As long as it's being debated, discussed, appealed, etc the illegals will be running scared. That's a plus for Arizona, not so much for the States they're fleeing to.

what is your plan :helpme it targets south americans in Az because they are in violation id say 99.9% of illegals are south american in Az. im not going throught this explanation again :disgust

I repeat...he cannot deport anyone. He can (or could...before the feds suspended his authority to do so...so I don't know if he still can) through the 287(g) program turn over to the feds those illegal immigrants that have been arrested/convicted of a crime (other than simply being an illegal immigrant) to the feds for deportation.

The new Arizona law would not have allowed Arizona to deport anyone for simply being an illegal immigrant...the law simply made it a state law...vs a federal law...to be an illegal immigrant and would have given the state the power to arrest/convict and hold the illegal in jail...but not to deport...as only the feds have the power to deport.

Weird, considering the majority of that "population" DOESNT pay taxes..

Where do you come up with this crap?

So you're saying Liberals are against the power of the Vote?

sheriff is clever!

"The first thing you need to address if you?re an immigrant with a criminal record is whether or not you?re an illegal or legal immigrant. Generally, if a person has come into the US illegally, they are typically prohibited from applying for US citizenship on this ground alone and may also be subject to deportation. The reason is because illegal immigrants have not only violated US law by coming into the country without authorization, but they?ve also cut in line in front of all those immigrants who have applied for residency through the normal legal immigration process. This process is important to the US because it gives the government a chance to vet all potential immigrants prior to being allowed entry. Though its possible for ICE to choose not to deport an illegal immigrant, such decisions happen very rarely and usually only in extraordinary cases."
read here their just hurting themselves.

I fail to see how what you posted makes the Sheriff clever...or what it has to do with my post. Care to educate me on both points?

Ah liberals. The cornerstone of stupidity in this country.

when they are captured they are marked. they will never become citizens. sweeping them up puts them in the system so if they try to apply after being deported they can not become a citizen. the ones convicted of felony identity theft are for sure not getting citizenship.

He can check the status (via ICE) of anyone booked. He can't arrest an illegal for being an illegal, but if they have been booked for some other reason he can check their status. Then once they do their time, pay their fine, they belong to ICE.

I remember prop 187

LA is a sactuary city, I grew up there. I'm moving back soon, get some real mexican food, not the taco bell wanna be shit

That is my understanding...under the 287(g) program...which apparently any law enforcement agency...can work through...but in his case his agency was suspended from the 287(g) program...and he is under investigation...so I am not certain what he can or cannot do now.

Ok, I get what you are saying, but as of yet, I do not know the fine line he has to work within and as I mentioned in my other post, he turns them over to the border patrol as he has in the past and they deal with sending them home. I will see what I can find out about this.
What ever Joe is doing today is working because the feds have not jumped in to stop any of his usual raids. Sending them to tent city or the SB1070 section that was just set up may be the new plan to get around the feds...putting them in jail.

On another note, the AZ law mirrors California and Federal law which the feds have refused to enforce, but I have a feeling when other states jump on board a file suits against the federal government, things will change.

You certainly don't have to be a liberal to believe that it is a good thing that we have in this country a process for subjecting statutes to judicial scrutiny. (And if you work in the porn industry, you sure as shit depend on that process for your continued professional survival.)

Let's suppose that someday in the not too distant future, an anti-gun political action group in some state/municipality or another manages to muster enough signatures to get a measure on the ballot to simply outlaw guns in that state/municipality, and let's say that measure then passes by a popular vote.

Let's further suppose that a federal court then rules that state/municipality's new gun law unconstitutional (which it would be, IMO).

Would you complain that the court in the above hypothetical had violated the will of the people, or would you applaud the court for upholding the Constitution? I suspect you would be glad the court had the authority to review the law, and glad that it overturned it, as I would be.

Judicial review of legislative and/or voter action is a good thing, whether or not you or I like any given decision the courts make.

Do judges sometimes (or even often) rule in ways that are contrary to the intent of the Constitution and/or case law/precedent? Of course! Judges are human, and as such they are subject to biases that can cloud their judgment. This is a big part of the reason why our system has multiple checks and multiple layers of overriding authority built in.

At the end of the day, all we can do is set the system up to strongly discourage judicial bias, and have review of lower courts by higher courts in order to increase the likelihood that we catch and correct instances in which political subjectivity has tainted a given court's/judge's decision.

It ain't perfect.... but if you stack our court system up against that of other countries, I think you'll agree our system comes out of that comparison looking relatively good, really. :2 cents:

It will get going either way... even if they have to clean up a few parts, it will get through.

For the few nut wingers that think left/democrats/liberals, etc don't also support this law, your brain is in backwards again.

irony...

Excellent analogy and excellent critique oi our system.

You nut wringers still haven't figured out what reality is. :(

Damn good read sir. One of the most articulate posts I've ever read here.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

the idea that i like to be treated the way i treat other people.

you wouldn't have a problem having to prove your citizenship after being pulled over for 'reckless driving'? Ignore the fact that you would never have this problem for a second, and try to think about the ride home in the cop cruiser to prove you are an American.

Driver license is probably fake anyway, dirty biker

i say dirty in a very proverbial sense
i found you clean and well kept

I'm glad to see the bigots and racists are put in their place.

Businesses

1.6 million
The number of Hispanic-owned businesses in 2002.

* Nearly 43% of Hispanic-owned firms operated in construction; administrative and support, and waste management and remediation services; and other services, such as personal services, and repair and maintenance. Retail and wholesale trade accounted for nearly 36% of Hispanic-owned business revenue.
*
Counties with the highest number of Hispanic-owned firms were Los Angeles County (188,422); Miami-Dade County (163,187); and Harris County, Texas (61,934).

Triple
The rate of growth of Hispanic-owned businesses between 1997 and 2002 (31%) compared with the national average (10%) for all businesses.

$222 billion
Revenue generated by Hispanic-owned businesses in 2002, up 19% from 1997.

44.6%
. . of all Hispanic-owned firms were owned by Mexicans, Mexican-Americans and Chicanos.

29,168
Number of Hispanic-owned firms with receipts of $1 million or more.

Dang, you do can do quotes and smilies.... you're such a good boy! :thumbsup I would really love more of your brilliant incite, please share away.

Cry proto-rascists, cry. Let the tears stream down your faces.

:thumbsup to justice.

yeah stopping the continued abuse of the system is racist. :1orglaugh

I am sure what you have posted here are stats from "LEGAL" Mexican American?s or Chicanos who own businesses that pay taxes and not "ILLEGAL" Mexican's/Chicanos who mooch and drain the system in each and every state they squat in, along with not paying taxes.

I believe he is referring to ILLEGAL'S that do not pay into the system.